Meatcan Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Hello everyone, I am new to this forum (though I have been following for a while), MOC's and LDD. But really wanting to make my own minifigscale UCS (mostly because to my opinion LEGO is to slow with releasing these), I am trying all of these things. I really want to know your reactions and opinions. And if you have any tips or tricks I would like to hear from you. Introducing the Elite AT-AT from the Star Wars mobile game Commander. After searching for a long time and looking at almost all the ground vehicles in the Star Wars Universe, I chose this vehicle because it is part of Star Wars canon and like a lot of people I already have 2 LEGO AT-AT's. So let me know what you think. Edited October 25, 2015 by Meatcan Quote
sigpro Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Hi. As a proud UCS AT AT owner, I will make my comments: -first of all, congratulations. Starting such a project is something to be proud of. -the legs look good in size and width, but don´t forget to cover the inner parts of them. -will the legs be poseable? I say, will the "knees" and "hips" move? For example, if you want to replicate the scene when the AT AT steps on Luke´s snowspeeder...the legs MUST be poseable. Use two hinges per joint, if not, a heavy ATAT will collapse. Believe me... If you don´t know the part I am talking about, just ask. Best regards. Quote
Koenta Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Hello Sigpro, so far as I know there is no UCS AT-AT existing. Which one do you mean? Your AT-AT MOC is a very nice build. One of the first big AT-AT minifigure scale. Edited October 25, 2015 by Koenta Quote
sigpro Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Hi Koenta. When I say a UCS AT AT, I mean what "could be" a UCS AT AT if Lego had one. A big AT AT able to hold many minifigs, detailed, etc. Check my mocpages and you will see my model (it is the smallest of all of them). Best regards. Edited October 25, 2015 by sigpro Quote
Koenta Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I just did, very nice MOC. Did you update it a lot during the years? Quote
Meatcan Posted October 25, 2015 Author Posted October 25, 2015 I need to clarify by the way. It is based on the UCS Slave 1, minifig scale wise. The legs are as poseable as the regular lego ones; the feet, the knees and all the way up top are rotatable. I think if I would cover the inside parts of the legs the legs would become too fat. But tell me if you disagree, and how you would change them. Quote
Fuppylodders Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Gravity will be your enemy when designing this, good luck with it, it looks a good start! Quote
khatmorg Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Looks like a good start, lots of AT-AT's popping up lately. I'm not a huge fan of the black "stealth/elite/blackops" recolors though. What are those axles for running down the body? Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Hi, My initial suggestion is to change primary color from black to dark gray. Not only will it be more appealing, but will also be easier on you wallet, as most of the elements you utilized are moreover available in this color than black—if you plan to build it in real life that is. Overall black is excessively too stark as compared to the reference. I have seen black AT-AT's before and aside from the design, and to be honest in my own opinion, they are not that appealing, as it is literally difficult to see beyond the extremely dark color, and actually take into account the design and techniques implemented. All things considered, I highly recommend converting the color to dark gray, as I believe it will significantly improve the appearance of the walker. However, most importantly, this is your AT-AT walker, so the decision is left for you to find what is more appealing. Black or dark gray? Quote
Meatcan Posted October 26, 2015 Author Posted October 26, 2015 I was going to do it in dark gray initially but changed it to black to be more loyall to the original. But I see what you mean and I might change it back. About it collapsing, do you think it would, and on would parts will there be the most stress? @khatmorg which axels do you mean? Quote
sigpro Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Hi again. The points that can make an ATAT collapse are the following: -"hips" and "shoulders", in other words, where the legs connect with the body. -"knees" and "elbows", in other words, the joints in the legs. My ATAT suffered a catastrophic collapse for having weak joints in the "hips" and "shoulders". I was moving something at home and I pushed the ATAT from the back. It collapsed forward, just like in the Empire Strikes Back. So I decided to double the hinge in all the joints. This also allows me to pose the legs, for example in exhibitions (increasing its balance), or to replicate when Luke´s snowspeeder is stepped by an ATAT. Another thing to consider is the weight balance. As mine is lighter (the sides are plates instead of bricks, and so is most of the head), the vehicle can stand with a rear leg in the air, or just without it. A heavy head will cause a moment towards the front (the weight will push downwards), so be careful with it. I see that your footpads are larger than mine (just 8 studs wide compared to yours) and the legs seem to be separated, so it will have good lateral stability. This is also important if you ever consider exhibiting your model. Or if a real cat attacks it!!! Best regards. Quote
Meatcan Posted October 26, 2015 Author Posted October 26, 2015 Thanks so much for the feedback sigpro! Quote
La Chupacabra Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 I'm also playing SW Commander but I agree with LilmeFromDaFuture you should change color to DBG. Quote
LegoCloneFanatic Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Agreed. DBG is the best color IMO. When the game first released, I made a few of the units from SWC. The only one I have still built is the Veteran AT-ST. Edited October 26, 2015 by LegoCloneFanatic Quote
Meatcan Posted October 26, 2015 Author Posted October 26, 2015 Oke changed it to dark grey, what do you guys think? I find it hard to judge because of the way LDD displays colors. @LegoCloneFanatic would love to see pictures of that veteran at-st! Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 It appears much better than before, though I recommend toggling the "Outlines on bricks" feature from the preference menu, so that the details of which bricks have been used will be easier to identify for you and us : ) Quote
Koenta Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Much better than the black. Now you see more contrast. Which makes the AT-AT come out much better Quote
Meatcan Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Yes after looking at it a long time I agree aswell. I finished the base and the engine room (which I wanted to add so there is more of a playability factor). Let me know what you think. Also I was thinking to add the troop bay and head seperate from the engine room, on top but not connected. Connected via pins to the legs and resting on the engine bay. This will make the engine room more accesible and the set easier to dismantle, but it might make it a little less stable... Edited October 27, 2015 by Meatcan Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Much better presentation with the outlines on, though it appears you increased the advance shading, which could considerably hinder the performance of the program; especially after the outlines were turned on. I cannot comment much about the structure you have, because I have never owned any of the AT-AT that LEGO has released, but you would have to know for sure once build it physically. Besides for decoration, I do not see the function of the gear system you have emplaced, so could you expound upon this? Quote
Meatcan Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 @LiLmeFromDaFuture the gears are only for decoration purposes, I want to make the AT-AT more of a playset then a showmodel (like the insanely beautifull one you are building). Quote
LiLmeFromDaFuture Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Oh, alright. I thought you were going to designing some sort of system for a walking function, but that might be too complicated for what you have aimed for. After you build the body, do you have any plan of how to access this section? Can't wait to see what you will do for the head! Quote
Meatcan Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 Can I copy yours . Just Kidding. I have noo clue what to do with the head so I will postpone that for last. To acces the engine room I will probably put in a removable hatch Quote
dr_spock Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Nice. I think the new color works better than black. Are you going to put in an access hatch underneath for Luke to toss in a grenade? I think this is proper way to pose an AT-AT with Jar-Jar Binks if you are going to include him in the LDD pic. Day 005 of 365: Do the AT-AT Stomp by dr_spock_888, on Flickr Quote
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