Very WIP SHIP

[Siegfried]

Well, no string/cables will be used. I'll have a technic gear setup, so that when I turn a knob in the back, the teeth of a gear will lower the floor via those 1x4 plates with teeth on top, but on the vertical. If that doesn't make much sense you'll see when it's built :-P

I know what you mean. That would be much better, but far harder too! How do you plan to lock it in place? I suppose a worm gear would do it. 8-| Perhaps I should just wait until you have done it.... :-$

[Starwars4J]

I know what you mean. That would be much better, but far harder too! How do you plan to lock it in place? I suppose a worm gear would do it. 8-| Perhaps I should just wait until you have done it.... :-$

Well the area that gets lowered won't have anything sitting on it when not being lowered, so the floor itself should have very little weight to it. The gears aren't loose, they tend to have a fair degree of friction, so I think that would be enough to hold it...at least I hope :-/ I guess we'll see when we get there :-D

[Siegfried]

Well the area that gets lowered won't have anything sitting on it when not being lowered, so the floor itself should have very little weight to it. The gears aren't loose, they tend to have a fair degree of friction, so I think that would be enough to hold it...at least I hope :-/ I guess we'll see when we get there :-D

I was thinking they would have a load on them all the time. Your probably right; there should be enough friction. 8-| I think I will stop bothering you now. :-$

[Hinckley]

Er... 8-| ...the window looks neat! :-$ I like the way the shooty-thing looks and I think the spinny thing sounds neat too. 8-| Can't wait to see it in actions. Will your main drive shaft connect directly to the...er... 8-| thruster booster rigs? ...

Okay, so I'm feeling left out :'-( . I see we have another smarty who know how to build stuff smart. Well, you two talk about your smart spaceship stuff and I'll just go make dumb sophmoric jokes with my bricks...

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Don't try and stop me...

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:'-(

Here I go...

leaving...

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[Starwars4J]

Er... 8-| ...the window looks neat! :-$ I like the way the shooty-thing looks and I think the spinny thing sounds neat too. 8-| Can't wait to see it in actions. Will your main drive shaft connect directly to the...er... 8-| thruster booster rigs? ...

Okay, so I'm feeling left out :'-( . I see we have another smarty who know how to build stuff smart. Well, you two talk about your smart spaceship stuff and I'll just go make dumb sophmoric jokes with my bricks...

:'-(

Don't try and stop me...

:'-(

:'-(

Here I go...

leaving...

:'-(

So sinner I'm kind of worried that it's too big/bulky. I took a picture of it on the current skeleton, what do you think? I mean clearly the shell will look much larger when it's all there, rather than just a few beams and whatnot but...eh

:-/ Thoughts?

(:-P)

[Hinckley]

So sinner I'm kind of worried that it's too big/bulky. I took a picture of it on the current skeleton, what do you think? I mean clearly the shell will look much larger when it's all there, rather than just a few beams and whatnot but...eh

:-/ Thoughts?

(:-P)

>:-( I think you need a new lamp! :-X

:'-(

[Siegfried]

So sinner I'm kind of worried that it's too big/bulky. I took a picture of it on the current skeleton, what do you think? I mean clearly the shell will look much larger when it's all there, rather than just a few beams and whatnot but...eh

Where are the other turrets going to go? If they are going to be close (within about 20 studs) then I say yes it is probably too big. Are there going to be any guns on the bottom?

[Starwars4J]

Where are the other turrets going to go? If they are going to be close (within about 20 studs) then I say yes it is probably too big. Are there going to be any guns on the bottom?

Well, I was going to put another pair of turrets two panels to the left and right, so that there would be three on the dome, then another two on the sides (one on the left, and one on the right). that's well within 20 studs, in fact it's only 12 studs :'-( So I guess just keep this turret for something else and start from scratch? I wonder if I should make a turret entirely on top, or just make it imbedded in the shell. I don't really like that idea though, as it doesn't allow as much rotation and coverage as this goes, albeit it gives better protection.

I'm a little stumped on how to make it so much smaller though, I mean it needs to be big, I hate guns that are small...they need to be big to have any sort of power, and as a capital ship's main guns, they need to have some kick to them.

And Hinckley, how many times have I said not to judge a book by it's cover? the top is really pretty nice |-/

I think I'll wait to make the turrets until the dome is finished...

On second third thought, I think I'll use two of these turrets for the sides, and make three smaller ones for the dome

Edited September 7, 2007 by Starwars4J

[Siegfried]

So I guess just keep this turret for something else and start from scratch? I wonder if I should make a turret entirely on top, or just make it imbedded in the shell. I don't really like that idea though, as it doesn't allow as much rotation and coverage as this goes, albeit it gives better protection.

I like the design of the turret, and aside from shortening the barrel there isn't much you can change. I also think that you shouldn't embed it. Since you want it big you probably should just ignore me and see how it looks on the final model. I don't mind short barrels as I see them as only the output of a weapon, not the whole thing. Even with todays ships the guns go down two or three decks. But it comes down to personal style; I probably wouldn't do a manned turret either so maybe my opinion is worthless in this case. :-P If I was to do a ship with five main guns I would put them three on center line, and the other two on the lower sides so they could cover most of the bottom arc.

On second third thought, I think I'll use two of these turrets for the sides, and make three smaller ones for the dome

I like that idea. *sweet*

[Corvus]

:-/ Thoughts?

(:-P)

I think whoever's in that ship is going to have a rough time when that turret fires. :-P

Well, I was going to put another pair of turrets two panels to the left and right, so that there would be three on the dome, then another two on the sides (one on the left, and one on the right). that's well within 20 studs, in fact it's only 12 studs :'-( So I guess just keep this turret for something else and start from scratch? I wonder if I should make a turret entirely on top, or just make it imbedded in the shell. I don't really like that idea though, as it doesn't allow as much rotation and coverage as this goes, albeit it gives better protection.

I'm a little stumped on how to make it so much smaller though, I mean it needs to be big, I hate guns that are small...they need to be big to have any sort of power, and as a capital ship's main guns, they need to have some kick to them.

And Hinckley, how many times have I said not to judge a book by it's cover? the top is really pretty nice |-/

I think I'll wait to make the turrets until the dome is finished...

On second third thought, I think I'll use two of these turrets for the sides, and make three smaller ones for the dome

I think you should have one big one on top, one on bottom. Use the same turret cockpit design (or similar), but with smaller cannons on the side. Maybe squish the turret cockpit thinner, and have the entrance in the back.

[Starwars4J]

I think whoever's in that ship is going to have a rough time when that turret fires. :-P

I think you should have one big one on top, one on bottom. Use the same turret cockpit design (or similar), but with smaller cannons on the side. Maybe squish the turret cockpit thinner, and have the entrance in the back.

Well I can't make it thinner, if you notice the cockpit is exactly the width of the window, and if the entrance was in the back, it would be a hassle to get around the seat, as things are now it doesn't really get in the way (since I can't make it thinner). Also I'm confused about what you mean, only two turrets total, one on the top and one on the bottom with nothing on the sides? I can't do the bottom gun I'm afraid because of the large lift it will have there, not to mention the fins would block most of the range of fire, it would only be able to fire forward :-P

Maybe I'm misunderstanding though?

[Corvus]

I meant two large main guns with some smaller turrets on the side. After reading Sinner's post, though, it sounds like the two big ones on the side idea is better. Besides, we wouldn't want to shoot the tail off... *cough*Indie's dad*cough*. ;-)

Maybe put some of the smaller double turrets on from 6211?

[Starwars4J]

Maybe put some of the smaller double turrets on from 6211?

Well I'm going to build a fair number of small anti-fighter automated turrets on the ship, but I still want at least 10 large guns total, or 5 turrets of 2. I'm thinking the 10 big guns will be complimented by 20 or so small light guns that are automated. I'm not sure if the smaller guns will come in ones or twos yet though. I like your ideas though :-)

[john cleese]

To be honest, I doubt I would go that far. :-$ I would be happy with just some form of access. Besides, in my experience, modern warships don't have crew elevators. Cargo elevators for ships with around 200 crew, yes, but the crew are expected to walk. :-| I don't even think the US Nimitz class have crew elevators... 8-| Thus I don't see elevators required for a ship of under 100. I served on ships of over 300 (with 60 crew members sleeping in one room :-X ) and stairs really weren't a problem.

Back to Lego, I have built elevators before for buildings (years ago so no photos :'-( ) and I found that weight wasn't enough to make them move down, I found you needed a full loop of string attached to the top and bottom to ensure they didn't jam up. But I am not really sure what you have in mind so this may not be your problem.

Wouldnt stairs take up even more space than an elevator? I still say a nice compact 6x6 elevator car isnt going to take up too much space, certainly not as much as stairs. If you want everything accesible, it seems an elevator with doors on both sides would work well.

[Siegfried]

Wouldnt stairs take up even more space than an elevator? I still say a nice compact 6x6 elevator car isnt going to take up too much space, certainly not as much as stairs. If you want everything accesible, it seems an elevator with doors on both sides would work well.

If you used the pre-fab stairs yes, but a more realistic and practical design would be a vertical one.

[john cleese]

Well 4j probably wont want to use this, as its his ship but I'm going to throw it out there anyway because i thought it was neat. I was thinking that since he already has the holoprojector, it would be neat if they could go on some sort of abduction platform that would pull them up, as the stereotypical UFO does a cow.

[Norro]

Looking nice... but why space?! This scale of a project should obviously be a castle... X-D

God Bless,

Nathan (Who just wishes his big project was finished)

[Starwars4J]

Looking nice... but why space?! This scale of a project should obviously be a castle... X-D

God Bless,

Nathan (Who just wishes his big project was finished)

Don't you see that large grey (not bley) structure in the back? ;-) That's a special WIP X-D

[Starwars4J]

What? Am I bumping this thread? Sorry :-$ Anyway I have an update! I've started on the lower deck. Keep in mind, this looks VERY BOXY RIGHT NOW. It won't later, I promise :'-) I need to greeb it up, finish the engine room, do the SECOND FLOOR, put it all together...yeah. It's very basic and still in VERY early stages, so I know it's boxy as-is. I hate boxy ships too, it won't stay that way

As you can see here, it's still under heavy construction. I have most of the floor down, with regular air vents along the floor. The sides are still barely there. You can see a 2-stud gap on either side, where various wires and pipes (as well as an access hatch) will go. I still need to add the two turrets into the existing walls.

Here's the very crowded engine room, with a close-up of this weird...I guess hyperdrive thingy. I don't know, it does something!

Then I zoom in on the budding engine cluster. The benefit of zero-point energy's infinite reservior is that they don't need to be that large to generate large amounts of power

This is a side-greeb that I like, and have been waiting to use for awhile. There are two sets of 5 on each side. They function to carry coolant fluids, to naturally let space cool it. Why do the work when space can for you?

This is something I like...the water storage and purification system! As you can see there are two towers, one grey (contaminated) and one blue (fresh). Pipes will eventually connect this to every room, allowing the withdrawal of bad water, and so on. One cluster isn't enough for such a big ship though, I plan on including a second set of bley and blue towers. That should be enough, considering water would be under pressure in the first place

The gear system. There is a knob in the back which, when turned, will lower the middle of the floor of the hanger (raised in a previous picture). I'm particularly happy with this, and can't wait for it to get finished! I just need to make more...complex support pillars |-/

The dome. This is coming along really slowly, but nicely

And finally, the fins that will line the back of the ship, to protect the engines. Can't wait to attack these! They're taller than the main deck (which is 13 bricks high, not counting the additional brick and plate), to allow for the bottom fins which I'll build last.

Thanks for looking!

[Corvus]

Okay, first: I can't tell the engine room from the clutter! I can tell that there is the beggining of an engine there, and the floor is nice, but why is all that clutter there?

On to body: I like how this dome is coming along. I can tell it's going to be big and cool. The fins are good, too, but they need... something. I think you should put in an identification number.

[Starwars4J]

Okay, first: I can't tell the engine room from the clutter! I can tell that there is the beggining of an engine there, and the floor is nice, but why is all that clutter there?

On to body: I like how this dome is coming along. I can tell it's going to be big and cool. The fins are good, too, but they need... something. I think you should put in an identification number.

The engine room is a clutter because it isn't finished yet :-P Seriously, there's nothing in there besides the things I specifically took pictures of and pointed out ;-) As for the fins, I'm gonna add something. 99% of what you see is just a placeholder until something else is finished.

[Sir Dillon]

This is looking pretty impressive. 8-

[Starwars4J]

This is looking pretty impressive. 8-

[Hinckley]

My I please marry your WIP?

Oh, rue the days when SW4J was without his breaks and thank goodness they're over!! I really love this. The gears and the lowering platform look a lot better than I imagined. I really love the filtration system and the pipey stuffs and the round power looking things and all the dealies! Great job. I can't wait to see it in it's completion!

*wub*

[john cleese]

wow, some really neat ideas 4j, especially the purification system. Just one thing, the engine cluster could be more detailed, are you planning on greebing it up? I also see a fenris wolf, some gold slopes and a crystal ball, what are they doing in there?

Edited November 2, 2007 by john cleese