Lesovikk's tragedy (help)

[Dino_Bot]

Get used to a bit of dissapointment Dino Bot. Lifes full of it. Nothing wrong with the quality of my lego and I've still got lego from 30 years ago. Maybe you're just not treating yours right.

No. Wrong. Fail.

I treat them like sculptures. The pieces were fragile and had cracks within them. I could not have caused the fracture. It's impossible. These specific pieces are supposed to never break. They're designed that way. And 3 of them broke on my Lesovikk. 3. And I hear I'm not the only one experiencing issues with this. No blame-y blame-y.

On my hands, that is.

Well, I'm still waiting for the pieces. One I get them, a full review will follow, complete with pictures, because...don't get me wrong...he's an awesome set, and the Mahri are awesome and all, but...Lesovikk is the best one, even though technically he's not a Mahri. And I really like his mask. If only the Inika had real heads and real masks...they would have been totally awesome, but they're good enough for me now. And...ok...so I'm being tempted to go for the rest of the Mahri, but...I'll have them be Dark Hunters, and Lesovikk's team's killers...or something...but really, should I buy the Mahri? And why did lego decide to make their canisters so...non-canister-ish?

[Kynok]

Well, I'm still waiting for the pieces. One I get them, a full review will follow, complete with pictures, because...don't get me wrong...he's an awesome set, and the Mahri are awesome and all, but...Lesovikk is the best one, even though technically he's not a Mahri. And I really like his mask. If only the Inika had real heads and real masks...they would have been totally awesome, but they're good enough for me now. And...ok...so I'm being tempted to go for the rest of the Mahri, but...I'll have them be Dark Hunters, and Lesovikk's team's killers...or something...but really, should I buy the Mahri? And why did lego decide to make their canisters so...non-canister-ish?

I'd recomend them. I don't know what I could say to convince you rather then saying that I love mine. The price is a bit steep, though. If I were you, I would wait for a clearance, but deffinatlly buy them. If you liked the Inika, you'd like the Mahri. :-)

P.S. I love The Office! I caught your joke. ;-)

P.S.S. Season Three just came out on DVD, btw!

Edited September 5, 2007 by Kynok

[Clonie]

I'll just run through the five Mahri I have quickly:

Jaller - This guy is truly awesome. They changed what needed to be changed on Jaller -- a taller and deeper body (although it's hollow, but you don't really notice it because it's covered up by other things), real AWESOME mask, and a kickass-non-light sword. Of course, Jaller Inika still had good things, like transparent joints, but that was to stimulate the lightning energy in their bodies, which is gone from the Mahri, and his gold was also nice, but badly executed. Jaller Mahri is ultimately a better set. Oh, and he has a crab. Yay.

Matoro - It's understandable why some people don't like him, because he's a hunchbacked ice Toa, but he's better that Inika Matoro in terms of things that matter, like design and playability. The Cordak arm isn't the best, but it actually has all the mobility of the other arm, it just takes longer to figure out, but it's worth it because a longer arm would have limited his posability because of the pipes, which are coool. His body is automatically better, because they thankfully got rid of the huge chest piece which somehow only increased the depth by 1 stud, and because there's less silver, and Matoro Inika's body was entirely silver, and was the only silver part of his actual body, which wasn't too hot. The claw isn't as cool as a sword, but the Inika sword sucked anyway so this is better. He has Toa Mata feet, which look disproportionate, but are actually the correct size compared to his body and stuff. And finally, his mask... well, having both I can safely say the Mahri mask is better, thanks in no small part to the visor. *looks up* Hmm, that's a lot of text.

Hahli - Where to start... well, her body isn't much, there's no armour (and she's a girl! :-P ), although it's better than her having Inika chest armour. Most of the body construction is on the back, because of the wings, which are cool by the way. The arms are basically the same, except they used Metru legs instead of Vahki ones, which is a good choice. The claw isn't the best Mahri weapon, but it's better than that damned harpoon. The legs are the same as her Inika ones. Oh yeah, she has lime joints, which is both good and bad, good because they look sweet, and bad because they BREAK!

Hewkii - Hmm. Well, he doesn't look that good, but when you compare him to Inika Hewkii... he looks pretty damn awesome. I find him very fun to be honest, but he could have had shorter arms though, I mean he can nearly reach his feet. His body is lacking, but I can't see what you could add to him, really, and like I said, better nothing than Inika armor. Well anyway, his weapons are cool, and his mask is as well, even if it looks evil (but an evil mask is better than a retarded Inika mask).

Kongu - Understandable that one would say he's the worst, but he's at least better than his Inika form. He's a bit shorter than I would have liked, though. His colours are better (yes, I said they're better. Sue me), and he has two Cordak Blasters, which rule (yes, I said they rule. Sue me). His mask is better than that scaly crap they put on his Inika form, although the back of his head is sorta long. Um, that's it I guess.

Getting Nuparu in a few, I'll review him later.

[Kynok]

Speak of the Devil: I was at my local Wal Mart this evening, and I found Lesovikk. I grabbed him, rushed home, and got him built. All the pieces were there, and none of the pieces broke. I'm quite pleased with him if I do say so myself.

It came with an extra one of those missing piece wheel thingys, as a matter of fact. And the lime ball joints seemed as sturdy as a rock. *y*

I was also surprised to see that the instruction pamphlet was the size of a canister set booklet, rather than the size of a regular boxed set.

My 2007 collection is complete! :'-) Minus those Donald Duck promos in Europe, which I hope to get soon. :-P And of coarse, I have none of those filthy Playsets. *waves hand in a way as if to brush the thought from his mind. *sad*

Edited September 6, 2007 by Kynok

[Clonie]

And of coarse, I have none of those filthy Playsets. *waves hand in a way as if to brush the thought from his mind.* *sad*

*y* Excellent. If enough people don't buy them then they'll stop next year and spend more time on the sets (I refuse to call the playsets sets).

If only I could sell my 05 playsets... what was I thinking...

[JINZONINGEN73]

Visorak-kal

post Today, 01:54 PM

Breaking joints has been happening with my BIONICLE sets since 2004/2005. Nidhiki, Vakama Hordika, on each of them I only took off the piece once. My 2007 sets have been taken apart multiple times without breaking, so it is a bit of luck (good or bad) I think. (Which makes sense, since that is when they started using the most ball joints and the least gears/technic pieces.) Which is why I don't MOC; I don't think the ball joints are meant to be taken apart, although it is perfectly possible to do so if removed carefully.

No, they're totally meant for mocing. There's joints I've been using since 2001 that are still A-Ok.

But ever since those long socket pieces from the Visorak era... breakiness. And I'm not talking from mocing, I mean from me:

A. Removing said socket from box.

B. Placing it on a ball.

C. It splitting.

A few times now. Same sets even.

Unacceptable.

Clonie

post Today, 10:59 PM

QUOTE(Kynok @ Sep 6 2007, 02:36 PM) *

And of coarse, I have none of those filthy Playsets. *waves hand in a way as if to brush the thought from his mind.* sadnew.gif

thumbup.gif Excellent. If enough people don't buy them then they'll stop next year and spend more time on the sets (I refuse to call the playsets sets).

What they NEED to do is not kill System hybrid Bionicle sets, but kill them as PLAYsets.

Instead of sparse playsets, merge those system bricks onto a new titan or something.

Which would sell better, some playset with cost-cutting decisions all over the place (like making everyone just repaints of 1 body type)... or a Titan covered in System to the point he looks more Gundam in nature?

Think about it... which one's going to SELL?

Yeah, it ain't those rat bastard playsets.

Of course that would take the skill of a mocer... I don't have a reason to believe Lego's design crew even has that kind of skill to do it "right".

Edited September 6, 2007 by JINZONINGEN 73

[Clonie]

Of course that would take the skill of a mocer... I don't have a reason to believe Lego's design crew even has that kind of skill to do it "right".

Which is why I hope they don't do it at all.

[Dino_Bot]

I'd recomend them. I don't know what I could say to convince you rather then saying that I love mine. The price is a bit steep, though. If I were you, I would wait for a clearance, but deffinatlly buy them. If you liked the Inika, you'd like the Mahri. :-)

P.S. I love The Office! I caught your joke. ;-)

P.S.S. Season Three just came out on DVD, btw!

Someone who caught my joke! I'll have to see Season 3. I never seem to catch it on tv, but...yeah...

The Playsets SUCK. They...just...aren't innovative at all, from their looks.

Clonie, those are good reviews, but I'm still...not going for the Mahri due to their canisters not being canisters. It's unconfortable, and I like to ferry my Toa in their canisters, as it was meant to be. Maybe I'll just try treating these canisters with respect, carefully open them, and re-sealing them somehow, after all, my Toa don't LIVE in their canisters all the time. But if I move, I don't just wanna drop them in a box of mix them in a baggie. Tahu is Tahu, he does not go well with others, and his canister is his place to hide.

Can't say that about Lesovikk, Takanuva, and Lhikan, though...or anyone else that's boxed.

But the Mahri look mighty nice. If I were to get Nuparu, I'd paint his mask black, though. I love Jaller, his no nonsense look works wonders on his re-design.

Maybe when they're clearanced.

Lesovikk's pieces have not arrived, and if I were to buy Hahli, and her joints broke, well...I'm scared, so that's making me put off the Mahri even more now.

[Clonie]

Clonie, those are good reviews, but I'm still...not going for the Mahri due to their canisters not being canisters. It's unconfortable, and I like to ferry my Toa in their canisters, as it was meant to be. Maybe I'll just try treating these canisters with respect, carefully open them, and re-sealing them somehow, after all, my Toa don't LIVE in their canisters all the time. But if I move, I don't just wanna drop them in a box of mix them in a baggie. Tahu is Tahu, he does not go well with others, and his canister is his place to hide.

You can keep them together if you leave the tape on, the tape that holds the top and bottom of the 'box' onto the 'fortress.' They hold together well if you do that, mine are still intact.

I got Nuparu, I think he's quite nice actually, probably equal to his Inika form.

[Dino_Bot]

The only thing that makes these guys superior to the Inikas are the fact that they have heads and masks...But the masks don't look like Kanohis at all.

But they are generally quite nice.

I've made a decision, and I'm getting them once they get clearance'd.

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

Basically, heres my problem.

I have 6 Toa Metru. Their joints are still as tight as the day I got them. I can even see colored powder from where the balljoint itself has gotten shaved from continual use. And they're still tight.

Now, I have 5 Inika. Every last one of them is floppy as all getout. Superior articulation be d*mned, I cant get them to stand up without falling over - forget any fancy poses. The joints are incredibly loose even after considerable play.I'm going to try putting tape or something in the joints to try to force them the come closer together - similar to how putting kleenex in the old Skellie's arm joints made them not floppy.

[JINZONINGEN73]

The only thing that makes these guys superior to the Inikas are the fact that they have heads and masks...But the masks don't look like Kanohis at all.

But they are generally quite nice.

Regardless of the masks they wear... I want about 8 billion of those blue trans pieces underneath.

SO much potential for those.

As for the cases... they are better for mocing than canisters have been for a loooong time.

So, yay if you moc. Meh if you don't. *sweet*

EDIT:Hey,wait... are you able to put two canister fronts back to back with pegs to make a single containment unit?

I'm going to try putting tape or something in the joints to try to force them the come closer together - similar to how putting kleenex in the old Skellie's arm joints made them not floppy.

I'd usually say, "SWWET JESUS NO! No part modifying!!!" ... but in this case, even if you ordered replacements from Lego, chances are they're still from the same run, still with the same problem.

I wonder how Lego plastic takes to a heating gun used for arts and crafts?

I used to modify bent limbs on action figures this way. Unfortunately, sometimes you'd be waiting for the plastic to turn malleable, and instead it'd spontaneously combust in most disfiguring ways...

Edited September 7, 2007 by JINZONINGEN 73

[Clonie]

EDIT:Hey,wait... are you able to put two canister fronts back to back with pegs to make a single containment unit?

You sure can. You can take the front pic off as well, if you weren't aware already. So it's just the canister parts with the clear plastic thingies. Very cool.

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

Hate to break it to ya, Jinzo, but I've already customized all these Bionicle peices: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=252129

;)

[Kynok]

Hate to break it to ya, Jinzo, but I've already customized all these Bionicle peices: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=252129

;)

Woah! That's great stuff! Very professional. *y*

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

Thankee! I've been doing most of them on commision over at BZP.

[Kynok]

Thankee! I've been doing most of them on commision over at BZP.

Oh yeah! I saw that topic! Your Hier of the Chronicler?

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

Yuppers.

Unfortunetly, I dont have a single remedy for healing a BROKEN joint that wont be obvious when you look at it.

[Zaktan of the Shadows]

Green parts usually have the problem, espeacially on the the 3 hole leg peices. Its stupid. Why must Lego do this!

And I do suggest you get the Mahri, they're kickass.

-ZotS

[Clonie]

Jaller looks badass with Nuparu's shield!

[Dino_Bot]

I'll get the Mahri when they're on Clearance.

[maiq the liar]

Well, aside from the playsets how else am i supposed to get minifig--scaled bionicles?

[Lord Admiral Helden Ravensdorn]

Bwinkwink.

[Corvus]

Don't get Hahli, unless you want the problem with Lesovikk over again. :'-( I didn't like her anyway (ugly body building, and bad weapon) and I tested the joints yesterday. They broke very easily.

[Dino_Bot]

Oh man...then how am I supposed to have all of them?