piterx Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Hello everyone! It's been a while since last time i posted somethinng! You know I was trying to make the fiat panda dakar for the TC6.... i had some problems with that as i didn't like how the gearbox was working.. So i started from scratch and now i can easily say that i've built my best and smoothest gearbox so far :) connectors of the black gearbox in the pic below couldn't give it the strenght it needed to run smoothly... so i rebuilt the grey one using only beams and it works great now as everything's perfectly straight and there are even less pieces so it's probably lighter as well.... i apologize for big pictures but i made em like this so if you want you can rebuild it from pics and test it :) I'll build something around it even if i don't know yet what xD hope you'll like it! Quote
Epic Technic Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Seems really strong and I'll probably use it. I was wondering where or how do we change gears? Quote
PKW Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 for sure this is a great idea! What about finishing your panda? Quote
jorgeopesi Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I like gearboxes sure I will build it to learn how it works . Quote
__________________________ Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Can you share the LXF? Thank you! Quote
PROlego Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Hello. I haven't got any driving rings so I wonder if you could fit the new version of the driving rings only removing the extender and moving the changeover catch half a stud to the side? Quote
piterx Posted March 11, 2015 Author Posted March 11, 2015 i think it's possible but not that sure because where's the extension there's the R gear Quote
__________________________ Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 i think it's possible but not that sure because where's the extension there's the R gear Is there any way of compacting this, however? At this size, Sariel's 4 Speed With 2 Servos seems better. Quote
piterx Posted March 11, 2015 Author Posted March 11, 2015 no way of making it more compact than that.... everything depends on what you wanna do with it... this one is meant for performances, it requires one servo only and it's meant to work with an autoclutch that guarantees good shifting while moving :) gears have a good progressive ratio wich worked well with pajero, for this one is gonna work even better as it's synchronized Quote
VKTechnic Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Hmm, might have to build this someday... In the meantime, I'll wait for your next model to see how this performs! Quote
__________________________ Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 no way of making it more compact than that.... everything depends on what you wanna do with it... this one is meant for performances, it requires one servo only and it's meant to work with an autoclutch that guarantees good shifting while moving :) gears have a good progressive ratio wich worked well with pajero, for this one is gonna work even better as it's synchronized How does it work with only 1 servo, and what is the auto clutch? I'm intrigued... Quote
Graydingo Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Posting in a thread. Been looking for a solid 3 plus R! Thanks Piterx Quote
Kelkschiz Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Looks solid and pretty. I'd love to see a video of it in operation. Quote
DrJB Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 I tried to build an LXF but can't complete it as I need more views/photos of the 'inner' gears. Quote
piterx Posted March 12, 2015 Author Posted March 12, 2015 im building a single block with 2 xl motors, clutch, gearbox, servo for operating it and brakes on the driveshaft btw it's gonna work the same way as the pajero one so a rotation of 90 degrees is gonna activate the gears wich are placed like 1 - 3 on same shaft and 2 - R on the other a single servo will be enough :) I tried to build an LXF but can't complete it as I need more views/photos of the 'inner' gears. here's the file :) 0 Untitled 0 Name: 3+r synchro best.ldr 0 Author: LDraw 0 Unofficial Model 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom" 0 ROTATION CONFIG 0 0 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 0 -32 -250 0 -1 0 0 0 -1 1 0 0 32316.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 -40 -32 -250 0 -1 0 0 0 -1 1 0 0 32316.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 40 -53 -250 0 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0 32526.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 -80 -53 -250 0 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0 32526.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 -20 -13 -250 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 48989.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 20 -33 -250 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 48989.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 -60 -33 -250 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 48989.dat 0 GROUP 7 side1 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 -40 -32 -370 0 1 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 0 32316.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 0 -32 -370 0 1 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 0 32316.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 -80 -53 -370 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 32526.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 40 -53 -370 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 32526.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 -20 -13 -370 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 48989.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 -60 -33 -370 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 48989.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 20 -33 -370 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 48989.dat 0 GROUP 7 side2 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 8 20 -53 -270 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 6542b.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 8 20 -53 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6542b.dat 1 7 20 -53 -410 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -20 -53 -410 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -20 -53 -390 0 0 -1 1 0 0 0 -1 0 32524.dat 1 7 20 -13 -270 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 20 -13 -230 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 20 -13 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -60 -13 -270 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -60 -13 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 20 -13 -330 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -60 -53 -410 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -20 7 -390 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 7 20 -53 -329 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32187.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 4 20 -53 -300 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6539.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 7 20 -53 -300 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 59443.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 8 20 -53 -270 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 6587.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 0 20 -53 -362 0 0 -1 0 -1 0 -1 0 0 3706.dat 0 GROUP 7 selector1 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 8 -60 -53 -270 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 6542b.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 8 -60 -53 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6542b.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 7 -60 -53 -329 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32187.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 4 -60 -53 -300 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6539.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 7 -60 -53 -300 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 59443.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 8 -60 -53 -270 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 6587.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 0 -60 -53 -362 0 0 -1 0 -1 0 -1 0 0 3706.dat 0 GROUP 7 selector2 1 0 -60 -13 -290 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32270.dat 1 0 -20 -33 -230 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32270.dat 1 0 -20 7 -230 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32269.dat 1 0 -20 -33 -330 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32269.dat 1 0 -60 -13 -390 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32269.dat 1 8 -20 7 -290 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 3648a.dat 1 0 20 -13 -340 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 3705.dat 1 7 20 -13 -250 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 4519.dat 1 0 -60 -13 -280 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 3705.dat 1 7 -60 -13 -370 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 4519.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 -20 7 -310 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 32034.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 -60 7 -310 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 4519.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 -80 7 -310 0 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0 60483.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 -60 7 -310 1 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 -1 6536.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 20 7 -310 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4519.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 40 7 -310 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 60483.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 20 7 -310 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 6536.dat 0 GROUP 7 Group name 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -370 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -330 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -310 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -290 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -250 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 GROUP 5 pins1 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -370 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -330 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -310 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -290 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -250 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 GROUP 5 pins2 1 7 -20 -33 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 3713.dat 1 4 -20 7 -270 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 3713.dat 1 1 -20 -72 -370 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6558.dat 1 1 -20 -72 -250 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6558.dat 1 7 -20 -72 -310 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 32524.dat 1 7 60 27 -310 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 32524.dat 1 7 -100 27 -310 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 32524.dat 1 8 -20 -33 -300 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 55013.dat 1 4 -20 7 -340 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 59443.dat 1 0 -20 7 -378 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 3705.dat 1 0 -20 7 -239 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 3737.dat 1 7 -20 -53 -430 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 32073.dat 0 Quote
DrJB Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Thank you. I'll upload the LXF as soon as done. Quote
__________________________ Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 im building a single block with 2 xl motors, clutch, gearbox, servo for operating it and brakes on the driveshaft btw it's gonna work the same way as the pajero one so a rotation of 90 degrees is gonna activate the gears wich are placed like 1 - 3 on same shaft and 2 - R on the other a single servo will be enough :) here's the file :) 0 Untitled 0 Name: 3+r synchro best.ldr 0 Author: LDraw 0 Unofficial Model 0 ROTATION CENTER 0 0 0 1 "Custom" 0 ROTATION CONFIG 0 0 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 0 -32 -250 0 -1 0 0 0 -1 1 0 0 32316.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 -40 -32 -250 0 -1 0 0 0 -1 1 0 0 32316.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 40 -53 -250 0 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0 32526.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 -80 -53 -250 0 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0 32526.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 -20 -13 -250 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 48989.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 20 -33 -250 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 48989.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side1 1 7 -60 -33 -250 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 48989.dat 0 GROUP 7 side1 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 -40 -32 -370 0 1 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 0 32316.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 0 -32 -370 0 1 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 0 32316.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 -80 -53 -370 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 32526.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 40 -53 -370 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 32526.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 -20 -13 -370 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 48989.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 -60 -33 -370 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 48989.dat 0 MLCAD BTG side2 1 7 20 -33 -370 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 48989.dat 0 GROUP 7 side2 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 8 20 -53 -270 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 6542b.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 8 20 -53 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6542b.dat 1 7 20 -53 -410 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -20 -53 -410 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -20 -53 -390 0 0 -1 1 0 0 0 -1 0 32524.dat 1 7 20 -13 -270 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 20 -13 -230 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 20 -13 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -60 -13 -270 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -60 -13 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 20 -13 -330 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -60 -53 -410 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 1 7 -20 7 -390 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 94925.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 7 20 -53 -329 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32187.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 4 20 -53 -300 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6539.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 7 20 -53 -300 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 59443.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 8 20 -53 -270 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 6587.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector1 1 0 20 -53 -362 0 0 -1 0 -1 0 -1 0 0 3706.dat 0 GROUP 7 selector1 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 8 -60 -53 -270 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 6542b.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 8 -60 -53 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6542b.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 7 -60 -53 -329 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32187.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 4 -60 -53 -300 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6539.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 7 -60 -53 -300 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 59443.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 8 -60 -53 -270 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 6587.dat 0 MLCAD BTG selector2 1 0 -60 -53 -362 0 0 -1 0 -1 0 -1 0 0 3706.dat 0 GROUP 7 selector2 1 0 -60 -13 -290 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32270.dat 1 0 -20 -33 -230 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32270.dat 1 0 -20 7 -230 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32269.dat 1 0 -20 -33 -330 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32269.dat 1 0 -60 -13 -390 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 32269.dat 1 8 -20 7 -290 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 3648a.dat 1 0 20 -13 -340 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 3705.dat 1 7 20 -13 -250 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 4519.dat 1 0 -60 -13 -280 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 3705.dat 1 7 -60 -13 -370 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 4519.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 -20 7 -310 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 32034.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 -60 7 -310 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 4519.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 -80 7 -310 0 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0 60483.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 -60 7 -310 1 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 -1 6536.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 20 7 -310 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4519.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 40 7 -310 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 60483.dat 0 MLCAD BTG Group name 1 7 20 7 -310 -1 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 6536.dat 0 GROUP 7 Group name 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -370 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -330 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -310 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -290 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins1 1 0 50 27 -250 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 GROUP 5 pins1 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -370 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -330 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -310 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -290 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 MLCAD BTG pins2 1 0 -90 27 -250 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 4459.dat 0 GROUP 5 pins2 1 7 -20 -33 -350 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 3713.dat 1 4 -20 7 -270 -1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 3713.dat 1 1 -20 -72 -370 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6558.dat 1 1 -20 -72 -250 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 6558.dat 1 7 -20 -72 -310 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 32524.dat 1 7 60 27 -310 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 32524.dat 1 7 -100 27 -310 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 32524.dat 1 8 -20 -33 -300 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 0 0 55013.dat 1 4 -20 7 -340 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 59443.dat 1 0 -20 7 -378 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 3705.dat 1 0 -20 7 -239 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 3737.dat 1 7 -20 -53 -430 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0 0 32073.dat 0 This sounds really cool! Can't wait. Quote
DrJB Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 As promised, here is the LXF, thanks to piterx. I added few parts to hold the gear shifters. http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=554029 Quote
Ciapasty Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) The new gearbox looks good. Everyone is posting gearboxes, but what I would like to see is gear switching mechanisms with servo. I use one in my latest MOC, but it tends to jam in between gears when switching gears one way. So you can say that it works only one way Also it needs a lot of space. If anyone have some comapact ones, please share! [EDIT] Ah, one more question. Did the gear ratios change? Edited March 14, 2015 by Ciapasty Quote
__________________________ Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Has anyone tested this in real life? Quote
darsedz Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 As promised, here is the LXF, thanks to piterx. I added few parts to hold the gear shifters. http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=554029 there is one gear missing - small black - working together with internal Z24, but any way - thx, I will try to build it, maybe think on something for my current project... (supercar really needs a gearbox? ) Quote
Doc_Brown Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 That is really freaking sweet man! I shall have to give it a shot sometime soon. Quote
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