[HELP] Want Compact Driven Axle with Negative Camber

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The title says it all.

The axle should be approximately 10-12 studs wide. I couldn't find any good axles with adjustable camber at this scale, any ideas?

Thank you!

[DrJB]

You could for sure use the old+new control arms, along with the new spindle part.

Though, why a negative camber? For increased lateral stability as in the race car below?

Edited March 11, 2015 by DrJB

[PKW]

suspension And Wheel type? They could be useful information

i Think You want a rear axle for trucks,so any steering required, But differential yes, right?

Edited March 11, 2015 by PKW

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suspension And Wheel type? They could be useful information

i Think You want a rear axle for trucks,so any steering required, But differential yes, right?

For a hot hatchback. NO steering is required, but I want a differential. Thanks!

And I can't think of any stock trucks with noticeable negative camber

[PKW]

maybe racing trucks :3

[PKW]

maybe racing trucks :3

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You could for sure use the old+new control arms, along with the new spindle part.

Though, why a negative camber? For increased lateral stability as in the race car below?

Yes. I'm making a custom car based off the VW GTI. The rear wheels (nonsteered driven axle with diff) need only 5-10 degrees of neg camber, however.

maybe racing trucks :3

I haven't seen any racing trucks with neg camber

[Jurss]

Which wheels You will use?

Edited March 11, 2015 by Jurss

[PKW]

I haven't seen any racing trucks with neg camber

time To make one muhahahah, yes But I think a Little bit is mandatory forse high speed-high weight vechles ;)

[PKW]

Hope o pe something like this will help you To find a solution :)

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Hope o pe something like this will help you To find a solution :)

Do you have any more pics of that setup? It's the perfect scale for my MOC. Also, is the camber adjustable? Thank you!

[PKW]

I think that this evening I can finish it,but I have To find how to fix some play it has, it work well but not for high load, maximum 500-600g at not an high speed (only tested with hand-weight)

[PKW]

i suggest you To build and test it, it isn't perfect ;) changing the 2M pin with the ball pin you gain less camber, but you have To place them not into the HOLE of the strange 3M connectors, but fixed touching, with one edge of the HOLE, the ball, with the other, the side of the 2x2 holed L, if it isn't clearance I'll post a photo

Edited March 11, 2015 by PKW

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i suggest you To build and test it, it isn't perfect ;) changing the 2M pin with the ball pin you gain less camber, but you have To place them not into the HOLE of the strange 3M connectors, but fixed touching, with one edge of the HOLE, the ball, with the other, the side of the 2x2 holed L, if it isn't clearance I'll post a photo

You're using Google Transalate, right?

Why couldn't this setup work at high speeds? My model will, however, be light. You could support this design (to hold additional weight) with shock absorbers, right?

[PKW]

ehm... Not, italians aren't alla good At english and My phone change all similar words -.- Like "is" and "in" :') The problem with weight is due To The strenght of the whole construction, while driving on heavy load (2 hard 9L shocks half compressed) The longitudinal Force could move The camber To neutral-positive, An theta is some friction, But with less camber, using ball pins, friction is decreased

[DrJB]

I think the problem/weakness with the above solution is that the camber will depend on the suspension travel, and not sure this is the desired effect.

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I think the problem/weakness with the above solution is that the camber will depend on the suspension travel, and not sure this is the desired effect.

Does the camber get more negative as the load increases?

[DrJB]

Does the camber get more negative as the load increases?

Not sure, as one needs to build the contraption first. Have we got an LXF for it? In real cars, and because typically the wheel/tire travels up-down parallel to itself, the camber is more or less fixed. Here, in the above solution, the 'mechanism' holding the tire is not a parallelogram and most likely will deform as the tire moves up down. Whether the camber gets smaller or larger with load depends on the distance between the attachment points of the suspension linkages (control arms) on the wheel side vs. on the vehicle chassis side.

[PKW]

There is another point, if you use To put suspension like a live axle you can find that camber changes while lifting the tire, but it is the same respect the parallel floor, it you use the parallelogram system (that is really difficult To make with 12stud and a differential) camber change when the car tilts during the turns be cause their are not parallel To the floor but To the chassis of the car, about weight? If you build a car that has a wheight that can be all sustained by 2 9L shocks camber won't change by weight but there is always some play that male it unstable