Lady K Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 All this time we are worrying about a conversion... What if Sinclair just made that up to mess with our head... I don't know who to vote for. Molly is a likely suspect. Bobby is still on my list too, but not as high. Addie and Lloyd... I do not know what to make of these two. And then there have been scarier scenarios going through my mind. Where the Octan leader got elected for Speaker knowing he would likely be investigated and turn up loyal. He'd gather all power roles around him and direct them towards an Octan win even at the cost of leading the lynch of two of his team mates in order to keep his cover and get the last remaining Loyals to vote each other of going mad at the thoughts of why they are not finding the last member of Octan. But then again that's just my mind going paranoid. But is if were true I'd applaud you Siegfried. So what do we choose... Molly or Bobby. I need more time. I have been thinking the same thing. With all the trust from others in Mr. Speaker, I never voiced my concern. But it is a possibility that we have to consider at this point. Mr Bjorn that is what I am talking about but maybe that is a little too much imagination. Lets concentrate on hearing something from Mr Tiny and Bobby If you made more solid helpful posts then I wouldn't have voted for you so quickly. It is not too much imagination. It makes sense. Of course you think I'm fooling you. As I wrote, you don't know how to play. You know I have a power role, and I used it on you the first night. That really is an over-complicated way of thinking about it. Think about it this way: I know what the town power roles are. Without saying who's left and who's gone, I think we can agree that the blocker is the least useful town role. It is in my opinion at least. If I were scum, I would have taken out Hatley after any other power role, not first. It's too much of a dangerous game for scum to have other roles hanging around. Its not complicated or over thinking at all. It really makes sense. And yes it is too dangerous for scum to have other power roles hanging around, unless you are the one in charge of them. You are great at taking charge and directing power roles, we are in serious trouble if you are indeed scum...and possibly their leader. Unvote: Molly Callaghan (Mecot) I too would like to hear from Rep. Rutherford. He hasn't spoken today at all and he did vote yesterday, I checked.
Mencot Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Great going Bobby, great thinking. Good points, this is what I meant but you said it way better and filled with more info. I believe he is playing us, he has lied to me in PM and said other things in thread. That is part of his bluff play but The lie has caught up with him now.
MagPiesRUs Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Did you somehow get her to claim to you by making up some nonsense about being the Speaker and coordinating a town block? Winifred is much more experienced than that to claim to you right away, granted, I'm willing to hazard a guess that there's two or three scum left. The scum team is most likely Siegfried, Addie, and Archie. The scum have at the most four votes today. Yes, that's right, four, because Siegfried can steal a vote off of someone. You might notice that Tiny hasn't spoken all day today. That's because he's been silenced and his vote has been stolen off of him by the speaker. It takes five votes to lynch today. The scum have already cast their vote today to get us to lynch Molly because she's "useless and a distraction": Nope, I haven't been silenced. I was under the impression Siegfried could only steal votes from non-voters anyway. I get the feeling the reason Siegfried is still alive is a combination of Octan fear that he'll be protected (I suspect they tried and failed to kill him on at least one occasion) and so that the scum can start raising the question "why is Siegfried still alive?" Siegfried's attack on Stanley didn't seem like a calculated move against a teammate. It felt like a spontaneous mess to me. It only came after I had drawn attention to Stanley and Sinclair's voting habits; before then, it seemed the scum could have gotten away with a Pierce lynch that day quite comfortably. Whether or not he's been converted since then is more ambiguous though. At the moment however, I feel that there are better suspects. My gut still tells me Lloyd is scum, but the past few days have been such landslides that it is difficult to find much recent evidence against him. He has been laying low after coming under the spotlight on Day Three. Bobby and Molly are also up on my list. On the nights they actually did manage a kill, they seem to have targeted the least important roles. This leads me to believe that the scum are not privy to much inside information. The scum contacting Archie, presumably fishing for information, further suggests this. I suppose it's possible that Siegfried is scum himself and has devised an elaborate scheme to undermine his own team and walk into blunders in order to look innocent, but the more simplest and most plausible theory is that the scum are just still in the dark.
def Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 It's because you've already taken out all of the other town power roles. I hope everyone notices there's only been one night kill ever since after Night One. The Speaker would like you to think that it's because the scum are targeting him every night or are being blocked, even though he's claiming vanilla townie. Why would the scum target him every night if he's just the Speaker? His only power is silencing someone and stealing their vote. Last night, however, our blocker was killed, presumably by the scum. I offered to be killed on Night Four because Siegfried saw me as very suspicious and I didn't want them to waste the day on me. Now I see why I wasn't taken out it's because we no longer have a vigilante. Our vigilante was likely taken out very early on in the game, meaning anyone from Carol to Jacob could have been the vigilante. He probably bussed Stanley on Day Three after Stanley screwed up in thread or maybe the entire thing was staged so Siegfried could appear more loyal. However, there was a problem soon after: the town investigator caught one of his fellow scum, Sinclair. Siegfried knew that it would look very suspicious on his part if he didn't bring it out to the open, so he had to bus one of his other scum, making him look all the more loyal. Also on Day Four, Siegfried mentions that Pierce was blocked last night, setting the stage for a Pierce lynch on Day Five. Ho hum, Pierce was innocent, but the speaker gets away unscathed because he's already spearheaded the lynch on two townies. I'm willing to bet that Maurice was our investigator, and he was taken out on Night Four so he couldn't find anymore scum. This is why I wasn't killed on Night Four by the vigilante. This means that contrary to what Siegfried is saying, we no longer have an investigator. This means that Archie was in fact not investigated last night and is why there was such a difference in his opinions earlier today about who was investigated last night. It's always bothered me as to why you weren't taken out on Night One. The scum always go for someone in a power position - you said so yourself on Day One: So why are you still alive? The vigilante wouldn't go for the Speaker, but the scum certainly would, but they targeted someone else on that day. Then there's this on Day Two: Was Winifred our vigilante? Is that why she was killed on Night One? Did you somehow get her to claim to you by making up some nonsense about being the Speaker and coordinating a town block? Winifred is much more experienced than that to claim to you right away, granted, but there's always the possibility of that. You should have been taken out by the scum on Night One so they could install one of their own in the position the next day, but you weren't. In fact, you weren't even targeted at all by them. If you were targeted by them, there would have been only one kill on Night One, not two. I'm willing to hazard a guess that there's two or three scum left. The scum team is most likely Siegfried, Addie, and Archie. The scum have at the most four votes today. Yes, that's right, four, because Siegfried can steal a vote off of someone. You might notice that Tiny hasn't spoken all day today. That's because he's been silenced and his vote has been stolen off of him by the speaker. It takes five votes to lynch today. The scum have already cast their vote today to get us to lynch Molly because she's "useless and a distraction": You both voted within twenty minutes of each other in hopes of starting another bandwagon. Siegfried figured the town would of course follow him because he's lynched two scum the entire game and nobody else has lynched any. He's thinning the herd, alright, but he's thinning the town herd for a scum victory. Unvote: Archie Matthews (Adam) Vote: Siegfried Dixon (Speedy) I urge all remaining townies to read what I've said carefully and to vote for the Speaker. As I've said, Siegfried and his cohorts have at the maximum four votes today and it takes five votes to lynch. They're counting on a townie to follow him blindly and vote for anything he says. I imagine he and the others will start a vote against me, since I'm coming after him. I full well expect him to try and lie his way out of this one as well. Great going Bobby, great thinking. Good points, this is what I meant but you said it way better and filled with more info. I believe he is playing us, he has lied to me in PM and said other things in thread. That is part of his bluff play but The lie has caught up with him now. One of you two is definitely scum. And to be honest, yeah, it probably was Bobby. The vig was just going to take you out tonight. It could be both of you. The claims of wacky PMs aren't so different from the nonsense Molly has sent to me. The vig is lying in wait. The town block has been prudent, and also wanted to confirm that it was actually a vig and not a SK. We had no evidence of scum, so there was no reason to kill. So all of Bobby's theory is totally wrong. It'll probably be proven tonight, as someone out of the group is taken down, and I will laugh laugh laugh, and then remind everyone that Molly doesn't know how to play... The town block will be given away somewhat here, but basically, half of us won't vote for me. Half (minus one) might. My message to the town block earlier: I wouldn't be opposed to flipping the vote onto Bob, and then taking out <deleted> tonight. But I'd rather Mencot is dead. Why would I like Molly dead? Because she has been the biggest in-thread impediment to town from the start. Maybe town, maybe scum, but definitely in the way, and not on purpose. Anyway, vote away Bobby. Good to see you participate on day six, having done nothing for the five days previous, making your gambit based on the player who has lynched two scum. Good call, you lose. Unvote: Molly (Mencot) Vote: Bobby (Bob)
Bob Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 One of you two is definitely scum. And to be honest, yeah, it probably was Bobby. The vig was just going to take you out tonight. It could be both of you. The claims of wacky PMs aren't so different from the nonsense Molly has sent to me. The vig is lying in wait. The town block has been prudent, and also wanted to confirm that it was actually a vig and not a SK. We had no evidence of scum, so there was no reason to kill. So all of Bobby's theory is totally wrong. It'll probably be proven tonight, as someone out of the group is taken down, and I will laugh laugh laugh, and then remind everyone that Molly doesn't know how to play... The town block will be given away somewhat here, but basically, half of us won't vote for me. Half (minus one) might. My message to the town block earlier: Why would I like Molly dead? Because she has been the biggest in-thread impediment to town from the start. Maybe town, maybe scum, but definitely in the way, and not on purpose. Anyway, vote away Bobby. Good to see you participate on day six, having done nothing for the five days previous, making your gambit based on the player who has lynched two scum. Good call, you lose. Unvote: Molly (Mencot) Vote: Bobby (Bob) I'm glad you've proven me exactly right. You couldn't resist bringing up that you've voted off two scum. "Oh, yes, I've spearheaded the lynch of two scum, I'm totally innocent, don't worry." The people that don't vote for Siegfried are scum, it's as plain and simple as that. They are not members of the so-called "town block" that probably doesn't exist anymore or has been completely infiltrated by scum with one actual townie still there. If you are a townie in the town-block, you are being played. I once again urge all remaining townies to vote for Siegfried. The message that he's sent to the "town-block" was probably sent to scum members. I repeat again, there is no longer a vigilante. The Speaker's actions in thread are not consistent with his actions behind the scenes. In thread, he's cavalier about the lives of unconfirmed townies, willing to vote them out. Behind the scenes, he's been "ordering the vigilante to lie in wait" and to not take out anybody because there's no evidence of anybody being scummy. Why isn't he ordering to take me out? He considers me scummy. Why isn't he ordering to take Molly out? He considers her scummy. Why didn't he order Pierce to be taken out? So we could waste an entire day lynching him allowing another town power role to be taken out, that's why. The vigilante is not lying in wait, the vigilante is out of office. Anybody who refuses to see this is either lying to themselves or is scum.
Mencot Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Unvote: Molly (Mencot) Vote: Bobby (Bob) Have you made up your mind now who you are voting for? Or will change it a few times more liar! Like have you made up your mind about do you or do you not have a PR or are you just vanilla!
def Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Bobby, you were going to be the vig kill tonight. Now, you've moved up the schedule. Good job for you. Again, you did nothing for five days of game, now on day six you claim to be paying attention. It's an interesting gambit, but fated to lose since you know nothing about the actual block. Have you made up your mind now who you are voting for? Or will change it a few times more liar! Like have you made up your mind about do you or do you not have a PR or are you just vanilla! I have the speaker's PR role. I would spell it out for you more, but you still wouldn't get it. My role was gifted to me on day one when elected. It is a PR role. It is a night action. Your inability to comprehend this just underlines anything I've said about you throughout the game. I have taunted scum to kill me, in part to waste their kill/catch someone with the watcher, but at this point, with the dumbness being thrown around in thread, I welcome a scum kill: I win with town, so even dead I win, it will confirm everything I've said, and it would be great to see these road bumps be forced to publicly admit they know nothing.
Bob Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Bobby, you were going to be the vig kill tonight. Now, you've moved up the schedule. Good job for you. Again, you did nothing for five days of game, now on day six you claim to be paying attention. It's an interesting gambit, but fated to lose since you know nothing about the actual block. By Vig kill, you mean scum kill, correct? The vigilante is gone and with the blocker and investigator also gone I imagine there's no town power roles left. That means it's time for the scum to start killing off the vanilla townies, like myself. Nothing you've said in the past few hours is consistent or makes sense. You're just insulting me and Molly. Granted, I don't understand what Molly is doing or what her thought process is, but I still consider her to be town. Of course you've been taunting the scum to kill you, you are scum and if we do have a watcher left, it would incapacitate them and force them to watch you every night. I've been paying attention this entire game. You're just acting sour now because I've caught you in a web of inconsistencies and lies.
def Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 So you say, based on nothing, except you're laziness all game, except on this late day. If you somehow are actually just a townie, my sympathy. Your big play today is an exquisite explosion that will haunt you. So far, you're the only vote for me, but I dare all to vote for me. I'll come up town, and that will only cement the town alliance, sealing the fate of the scum. As I said already, I win with town, so lynching me would only make town's win even more confirmed. As a scum technique, this one was a failure. For your future notes. *you're > your
Bob Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I've provided the town with an abundance of evidence and a hypothesis built on logical deduction. Your accusations against me are non-existent. You're trying to get the town to go against me because I've stood up to you. The only reasons you've provided listing me as scum is that I'm going against you and that you get a scum vibe off of me. I've been active the entire game. Have I had the "successes" that you've been having? No, I didn't know who the scum were from the start of the game, and therefore I couldn't bus them like you can. To turn your other point back on you, so far you're the only vote against me. I like how you're daring people to vote for you. It's the ultimate scum ploy. "Vote for me, I win anyway and it'll root out all the scum!" I've seen quite a few people read the thread and then disappear. Where are you going? Make your thoughts known in public. I imagine there's only us vanillas left with maybe a watcher, but the watcher role might just be another lie that Siegfried was going to use to railroad one of us out. We don't have the night actions that the scum have, but we can still win this through voting. Like I said, anyone who doesn't vote for Siegfried is either scum or extremely blind.
Mencot Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Actually the only PR you have is the scumrole, you got in the beginning. The speaker role isn't anything to brag about anymore when there hasn't been any players that hasn't voted. Unless there is some other power to the role that you haven't said. But go ahead vote out Bob, that is the scum move.
Bob Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Where are Bjorn, Tiny, Molly, and Lloyd's votes? Where do you all stand? I full well expect Addie and Archie to side with the speaker since one or both of them is scum. I'm sounding like a broken record repeating myself, but I will. There are no more power roles left. If you are a townie in Siegfried's "town block" then you are being lied to. It's as simple as that. Since Tiny didn't have his vote stolen after all, then that means the scum have a maximum of three votes today, depending on how many scum are left. Siegfried is hoping you will ignore the explanation I've provided and just go on his track record that he's spearheaded the lynch of two scum. Despite what Dixon wants you to think, this is not the last desperate Hail Mary of a depleted and battered scum team. This is an attempt to impeach someone who is so obviously scum. Take a look at this as well. This is the message that Sinclair sent to Archie: Sent this to AdamHey there, I’m done for. However I’d like to offer you a chance for defection to the Octan Lobbyists. Dixon and the Loyals aren’t in nearly as good as a position as you think. Contact me. If this is quoted in the thread I will deny it. (Apologies if I sen this twice: I don't think my first message went through) Scaevola Why does he specifically mention "Dixon and the loyalists?" Why doesn't he just say the loyalists? It's almost as though Sinclair or Archie wanted it abundantly clear that Dixon is loyal by including him in this private message as being the "leader of the loyalists." Also, why does he sign this letter using his username and not his character name? What does "Sent this to Adam" mean in the front? Did Archie just copy and paste this from the scum writeboard? Everything about this is so, so wrong. There's not much time left for us to get this right, town. If I'm lynched today and Molly is taken out tonight, that will mean the game is over if there's three scum. If there's only two scum left, Dixon will be able to lead a lynch against a random townie tomorrow using his watcher tactic and throw any suspicion off of him by claiming that "Bobby was so scummy, everyone in the town block agreed he was scum." Then the town lose the game because he'll be able to kill someone that night after railroading out a townie, making the scum even the townies. Please, vote for Siegfried. I've driven a truck through all of the holes in his stories, pointed out his inconsistencies, and established a plausible and logical theory. Siegfried is trying to use his two bussed scum buddies and his abbrasive attitude to try and get me lynched instead.
Mencot Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Speedy you are so useless, first it seems you are doing something right then you do the complete different thing. Useless! VOTE: Siegfried Dixon (Speedy)
Adam Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Sent this to Adam Hey there, I’m done for. However I’d like to offer you a chance for defection to the Octan Lobbyists. Dixon and the Loyals aren’t in nearly as good as a position as you think. Contact me. If this is quoted in the thread I will deny it. (Apologies if I sen this twice: I don't think my first message went through) Scaevola Here you see why I copied and pasted it instead of directly quoting him. It's kind of tough to read with all that font crap in the background, isn't it? You're quite obviously loyal. Even if all the current lobbyists die I doubt they'll suspect you. I cannot disclose to you our particular advantage at this point, but I assure you it has the potential to ensure an Octan win. Furthermore, I was investigated by TPRU's philosophy. It's back to the drawing board for conjectures now, with both Nottingham voters having been impeached or about are to be impeached. You won't regret conversion. You'll get the option tonight, through a night action. All you have to do is wait. Continue to play as Town for the rest of the day. (Keep your vote on me ) I'll say this again. Why the hell would I make this up? What does this do for me if I'm scum, except draw attention to me? Instead, as I said before, I did the townie thing and shared this with everyone, knowing it would make some people suspicious of me. Because I'm town.
Bob Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I'll say this again. Why the hell would I make this up? What does this do for me if I'm scum, except draw attention to me? Instead, as I said before, I did the townie thing and shared this with everyone, knowing it would make some people suspicious of me. Because I'm town. You shared it with everyone towards the end of Day Five, though. Not as soon as the day started and not as soon as you received the message. There was nothing helpful you could have received from drawing out a conversation with him. Your conversation ended with him the moment Day Four concluded. Why didn't you post it immediately at the start of Day Five? Perhaps because you didn't want to ruin the Pierce lynch that you and Siegfried had set up? As soon as Pierce started questioning the message, who else but Siegfried jumped in to save your bacon and say that it seemed to be a pretty townie move. That pacified the rest of us townies, who were admittedly all acting like sheep at that point. Also, the entire point of the private message is silly. There's no reason he, as someone who was about to die, would be able to convert you. There's no reason he would even tell you that you were going to be converted. Which means you were probably converted that night anyway despite that he was impeached that day. That explains why you waited until the end of Day Five to post it. A Pierce lynch was already secured and you wanted to have a few days to talk over with your new scum buddies how to proceed. You decided that hey, why not post that message that Sinclair sent me in an attempt to make myself look town? It fooled me until I took a closer look at it. I reiterate that the scum team is Siegfried and Archie, and maybe Addie. Vote for Siegfried today and when I get photographed tonight out of retribution by Archie, vote for him tomorrow. Do not believe any more of their lies!
Lego Spy Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Honestly, I'm torn. Bob seems suspicious because of his posts in the past, but he has made some decent accusations against Siegfried. I read Addie, Archie, and possibly Bjorn as town. Molly's strange posts, behavior, and apparent dislike for Siegfried* today seem somewhat unusual, and Tiny just, hasn't said much, although I get the feeling it isn't an attempt to stay "under the radar" due to his contributions in the past few days. * Speedy you are so useless, first it seems you are doing something right then you do the complete different thing. Useless! I'll say this again. Why the hell would I make this up? What does this do for me if I'm scum, except draw attention to me? Instead, as I said before, I did the townie thing and shared this with everyone, knowing it would make some people suspicious of me. Because I'm town. I agree. I don't see any reason why you would have, as like you said, the only thing it would do is draw unnecessary attention.
Lady K Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Bobby has made some good points. I want to hear others thoughts on these issues. Mr. Speaker is highly suspicious at this point. But why am I constantly on your scum list Bobby when you don't say why? What have I done that is scummy? Molly's posts are still in the strange range, but I just don't see your logic on Archie. Yes he should have shared the bribe PM with us at the start of the day, but I don't see it as saving himself to look townie by waiting till the end of the day. If he has been bribed then by sharing it now he is basically advertising he switched sides. I think the scum want us to fight amongst ourselves and dwell on the possibility someone was bribed. It is tearing us from the objective of finding them.
badboytje88 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I can't believe that at day 6 there are still people who do not u understand how the speaker role works... Vote: Bobby (Bob) I still prefer ro trust our speaker. Although I still got my eye on him.
Tamamono Posted January 15, 2015 Author Posted January 15, 2015 Vote Tally Siegfried Dixon (Speedy) - 2 (Bob, Mencot) Bobby Benedict (Bob) - 2 (Speedy, badboytje88) With 8, it takes 5 to impeach. Around 24 hours left.
def Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Votes are pretty low. The town has two choices: the guy who helped deliver two scum, or Heckle and Jeckle (Bobby and Molly). Bobby has done nothing all game, and Molly is, well, riding the short bus. Bobby's sudden brashness strikes me of his late-day scum flail, and I'm about 100% certain he's scum at this point, much like Sinclair. I'm very curious as to what'll happen.
Bob Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I can't believe that at day 6 there are still people who do not u understand how the speaker role works... Vote: Bobby (Bob) I still prefer ro trust our speaker. Although I still got my eye on him. You're either scum or extremely delusional. I can't decide which yet. I don't know if you're in this town block, maybe you are, maybe you're not, but you're being played. I've exposed Dixon using logical deduction and reasoning combined with behavioral analysis and catching his inconsistencies and you're voting for me regardless because I made a mistake on how the Speaker's role works? You're exactly the sort of sheep townie that Dixon is looking for to follow him. You presented a similar situation to my own earlier but just chalked it up to paranoia, so I know you're at least sort of thinking for yourself. Bobby has made some good points. I want to hear others thoughts on these issues. Mr. Speaker is highly suspicious at this point. But why am I constantly on your scum list Bobby when you don't say why? What have I done that is scummy? Molly's posts are still in the strange range, but I just don't see your logic on Archie. Yes he should have shared the bribe PM with us at the start of the day, but I don't see it as saving himself to look townie by waiting till the end of the day. If he has been bribed then by sharing it now he is basically advertising he switched sides. I think the scum want us to fight amongst ourselves and dwell on the possibility someone was bribed. It is tearing us from the objective of finding them. Well this one is surprising. I expected you to immediately vote for me, but you're at least entertaining my position. I've found you a bit scummy from the start just by a few actions, and I suppose I've never really revisited that initial suspicion. You not understanding the logic on Archie being scum is exactly what he and the other scum were hoping for. It's such a foolish and risky gambit to out yourself publicly like that, everyone figures no scum would ever do something like that. Add to the fact that Siegfried was there to cover for him and then say that Archie was investigated as town and you've got an airtight alibi. Except for the fact that the investigator is no longer in this game and Siegfried can say whatever he likes about whoever and claim the "investigator" told him so. Maybe I'm wrong, perhaps Addie isn't scum and Bjorn is. I know I'm one hundred percent right on Siegfried and Archie, though, and I'll be sticking to that. As I've said before, I have provided a great deal of evidence ranging from inconsistencies to behavior analysis to a plausible and logical hypothesis. The only evidence that's being brought against me is that some of my posts in the past have been "scummy" because I've chosen to think for myself the entire game and not follow Dixon blindly like everyone else was. The only reason I'm still around is because Dixon was counting on me to be a sheep for the rest of the game and follow him no matter what like some of you are. Votes are pretty low. The town has two choices: the guy who helped deliver two scum, or Heckle and Jeckle (Bobby and Molly). Bobby has done nothing all game, and Molly is, well, riding the short bus. Bobby's sudden brashness strikes me of his late-day scum flail, and I'm about 100% certain he's scum at this point, much like Sinclair. I'm very curious as to what'll happen. As I've said, of course he would use the line "the guy who helped deliver two scum." It's now his trump card that he's bussed two of his own teammates in order to secure him in a better position. Remember this: I was not in line to be lynched today and I had no knowledge that I would be taken out by Siegfried tonight. There would be no reason for me to flail around like this if I was scum. I have given you entire walls of text worth of evidence to support my claims. The only accusation Siegfried is levying against me is that I'm going after him, which means I'm scum. Being suspicious of someone in a mafia game does not make you scum. Going after someone that you strongly believe is scum in a mafia game does not make you scum. It means you're able to think for yourself. Have I had a "quiet" game? Yes, and with good reason. If I was out in public going after people like this the entire game, I would have been taken out a long time ago. Siegfried was hoping for me to just be complacent and be "regular Bob", and I did that for him just so I could watch for a slip up and examine it closely. And I found one earlier while I was accusing Archie. For the sake of the Loyalists I urge you to vote for him.
def Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 As I've said, of course he would use the line "the guy who helped deliver two scum." It's now his trump card that he's bussed two of his own teammates in order to secure him in a better position. Remember this: I was not in line to be lynched today and I had no knowledge that I would be taken out by Siegfried tonight. There would be no reason for me to flail around like this if I was scum. I have given you entire walls of text worth of evidence to support my claims. The only accusation Siegfried is levying against me is that I'm going after him, which means I'm scum. Being suspicious of someone in a mafia game does not make you scum. Going after someone that you strongly believe is scum in a mafia game does not make you scum. It means you're able to think for yourself. Have I had a "quiet" game? Yes, and with good reason. If I was out in public going after people like this the entire game, I would have been taken out a long time ago. Siegfried was hoping for me to just be complacent and be "regular Bob", and I did that for him just so I could watch for a slip up and examine it closely. And I found one earlier while I was accusing Archie. For the sake of the Loyalists I urge you to vote for him. It's great that you have said that I'll use my claim of delivering two scum as if that shows it to be false Basically, catching scum is what town does. There was no need to bus, since there was no pressure on me. I was already cleared by the investigator early on, which got me the info from the watcher that let me catch Sinclair. Sinclair would not have claimed to kill Kovacs night one if he was working with me. And since when does scum bus two of their own early on? That's a baffling strategy. And yes, you were in line to be lynched. I just call out one target at a time. Molly was first, you were second. No need to tell third and fourth, since that will give away what the block is thinking. Standard operating procedure. And you are correct, you have posted walls of text, but it's just you making up silly theories. None of it is probable at all. Your main theory is that I am scum because I have led to two scum lynches. Strange, don't you think? My only accusation against you is certainly not that you were going after me. You were blocked on a night, and a kill went through. That is the only evidence to support a town claim on you. So, after Molly, you had the weakest town evidence supporting you, and you were going to be vig-killed tonight. Your posts today are the proof As for thinking you would be taken out for being active? Come on Bobby, we know that simply isn't true. You have never been taken out for being too valuable to the town team ever Anyway, either Bobby will be lynched, or there will be a no-lynch. I'm not worried. Bobby doesn't know it, but yeah, town still has the numbers I'm not going to entertain this argument further.
Adam Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 You're either scum or extremely delusional. I can't decide which yet. I don't know if you're in this town block, maybe you are, maybe you're not, but you're being played. I've exposed Dixon using logical deduction and reasoning combined with behavioral analysis... *SNIP* Who are you, Sherlock Holmes? "Behavioral analysis?" If you're billing today as either you or Siegfried (Speedy), I'm going to go with the one who's in the town block and who helped spearhead the lynch of two scum, not the one who thinks that I'm scum because I did something no scum would ever do. Vote: Bobby (Bob) Not that this should surprise you, since apparently I'm predestined to copy Siegfried's (Speedy) vote, according to you.
Bob Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 It's great that you have said that I'll use my claim of delivering two scum as if that shows it to be false Basically, catching scum is what town does. There was no need to bus, since there was no pressure on me. I was already cleared by the investigator early on, which got me the info from the watcher that let me catch Sinclair. Sinclair would not have claimed to kill Kovacs night one if he was working with me. And since when does scum bus two of their own early on? That's a baffling strategy. And yes, you were in line to be lynched. I just call out one target at a time. Molly was first, you were second. No need to tell third and fourth, since that will give away what the block is thinking. Standard operating procedure. And you are correct, you have posted walls of text, but it's just you making up silly theories. None of it is probable at all. Your main theory is that I am scum because I have led to two scum lynches. Strange, don't you think? My only accusation against you is certainly not that you were going after me. You were blocked on a night, and a kill went through. That is the only evidence to support a town claim on you. So, after Molly, you had the weakest town evidence supporting you, and you were going to be vig-killed tonight. Your posts today are the proof As for thinking you would be taken out for being active? Come on Bobby, we know that simply isn't true. You have never been taken out for being too valuable to the town team ever Anyway, either Bobby will be lynched, or there will be a no-lynch. I'm not worried. Bobby doesn't know it, but yeah, town still has the numbers I'm not going to entertain this argument further. I was in line to be lynched, but I was not meant to be lynched today. I was also not in the know that I was to be lynched. Again, I reiterate, how is this a desperate scum flail? Everything I've posted today is extremely probable and highly likely, if not the truth. I've provided so much evidence to support it. I have offered to be investigated by you, I have offered to be vig killed by you, and then I realized, I suppose I can't, because both of those roles are gone now. You're only pretending to be in contact with both of them. There is no longer a town block. The town block is likely made up of scum and one vanilla townie who was "cleared". You likely didn't plan on bussing Sinclair. You only intended on bussing Stanley after his posts on Day Three, and when the investigator, again, likely Maurice, came to you with the result that Sinclair was scum, you of course had no alternative but to bring it out to the rest of us. Your continuous attempts to insult me will not stop me from accusing you. You are scum and that is that. If you wish to run away from this, go right on ahead. Who are you, Sherlock Holmes? "Behavioral analysis?" If you're billing today as either you or Siegfried (Speedy), I'm going to go with the one who's in the town block and who helped spearhead the lynch of two scum, not the one who thinks that I'm scum because I did something no scum would ever do. Vote: Bobby (Bob) Not that this should surprise you, since apparently I'm predestined to copy Siegfried's (Speedy) vote, according to you. And there's scum number two to help with the lynch. He's going to go with the one who spearheaded the lynch on two scum. By that, he means he's going to go with the one who bussed two of his own to make himself look better. Does nobody else see how transparent they're being now? They aren't even trying to hide what they're doing. I repeat what I've been saying. There is no vigilante, there is no investigator, there is no longer any town power roles. They've gotten rid of them all. If I'm lynched today, the "vigilante" (scum killer) will take out Molly tonight, and when Siegfried is asked tomorrow why I was innocent and why there was only one kill, he'll say that the scum must have gone for him and that I was so scummy in my accusations towards someone who lynched two scum. Don't you people see? It's so obvious that they're both just playing you. I also urge everyone to vote today. If there's a no-lynch or if I'm lynched and not everyone has voted, don't let Siegfried take your vote tomorrow. It will just ensure a scum victory, and I can't handle an entire day of him gloating to everyone that there's nothing they can do to stop him.
Bob Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Another thing I've only just realized, the numbers don't even support there being a vigilante, investigator, and watcher left amongst the town. Let's analyze what the speaker says. He is saying that he is vanilla and that Molly and I are scum. That leaves five people that could have night actions. He claims that Archie was investigated last night, making him unlikely to be in the town block and therefore unlikely to have a night action. This leaves Bjorn, Tiny, Addie, or Lloyd to have the three night actions, meaning that in Siegfried's mind that there are only three people that aren't confirmed town. So why hasn't he sent the vigilante out to kill us? Why has there only been scum kills for the last few days? Why has he been keeping our vigilante in the wings? There is no vigilante. The vigilante should be used every night in every game to target the scummiest person. So why hasn't there been a double kill since Night One? There is no vigilante. The numbers do not support Dixon. The logic does not support Dixon. The inconsistencies he's made don't support Dixon. He's all for getting rid of the scummy people in the voting process, but he doesn't support sending the vigilante after scummy people? That doesn't make any sense. It's not logical. It does not work. There is no vigilante. I don't know how much plainer I can be. We have been played. I have now brought in numerical data to support my claims. Anybody who supports Dixon is scum at this point. Either that or they are just delusional.
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