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Well the new Halloween themed CMF looks interesting however I really don't like that goofy scientist. Maybe the design team wants to try a specific themed CMF to test the market? Personally I wish they would stick to other historical or reality based characters like a Mountie or Romans. :wub: I admit it's hard not to be completist with the CMF line.

A Space wave would also rock... Blacktron, M-Tron, Space Police, a new Classic Space color, Galaxy Squad, etc

This would be an awesome idea! Even the Castle themed one would be cool.

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Thank you all very much for the links, pictures and information! :classic:

The minifigures we've seen so far for sure don't look bad.

But one whole series only with Halloween characters ist really to much! Like it already has been stated - it looks like CMF is turning into only one regular series per year, minimum one licensed and the other one a special one. And that's a bad development!

Klaus-Dieter

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It's LEGO taking advantage of a serendipitous opportunity: to have a spooky theme (Scooby-Doo) and a monster series of Minifigures running simultaneously in time for Halloween. I'm positive the theme will pick back up after this one. It's not the end of the world, since I'm sure this is testing the waters, and more normal series are to come.

You certainly don't have to get anything you don't like. The completionist attitude is sort of silly if it ends up wasting you money on things you don't like. I gave up completing series a while ago, since I realized there were characters I didn't want or have use for. I like monsters and Halloween enough to want this whole series, however. I'll still get the Rocker Monster, because his stitched brow looks better than clothespins or band-aids, and he'd be great for my monster party scene at the Haunted House. I don't care much for the Skeleton Boy, but I still appreciate his concept. I've chosen to ignore characters like the Mountain Climber or Bumblebee Girl, since I didn't really care about them.

Don't feel tied down by completionism, and don't assume this is the downfall of the CMFs. There will be more assorted series in the future. Honestly, I'd sorta like to gripe about the Simpsons S2, but I'll just wait it out.

This is the my last post about this, because I don't want to fill this thread with my complaints.

I've always have seen the CMF theme as a way to get unique and never before seen minifigures like the Gingerbread Man, the Cyclops, the Wizard, the Classic King, the Aztec Warrior, etc.... But, what does this series have? Another Pirate Captain , another Zombie, another Crazy Scientist, another Monster, another Witch, another Cheerleader, another Werewolf...... (and I bet there is a Mummy and a Vampire among the 5 minifigures missing)

What's the sense on that?

How come someone thought this was a good idea?

I'm ok with the CMF theme exporting some minifigures from other themes, like the S8 Alien Villainess, but here the CMF theme is copying itself.

As Blakstone said, and if they wanted to make a "monster" themed series, they just needed to include 3 or 4 monsters on a regular CMF series and that's it.

Finally, this is from the interview WhiteFang posted on the Series 13 review:

4) Could you be able to share with us of the general design process of the minifigures?

First we have to figure out what the lineup of characters is going to be, which is a process inspired by many and overseen by me and Matthew Ashton, Vice President of Design. Once we have chosen 16 figures that we believe offer a good mix for everyone, we prepare design briefs for the designers.

What the hell happened? :sceptic: This was posted just some weeks ago.

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About these not being finals, I don't know what they mean. The "Good Witch" looks finished to me. She is only missing a cloth skirt and maybe another accessory.

But, if these are not finals, then that means LEGO physically produces no-finalised minifigures? Isn't that too expensive? I mean, there are some new moulds there.

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This is the my last post about this, because I don't want to fill this thread with my complaints.

I've always have seen the CMF theme as a way to get unique and never before seen minifigures like the Gingerbread Man, the Cyclops, the Wizard, the Classic King, the Aztec Warrior, etc.... But, what does this series have? Another Pirate Captain , another Zombie, another Crazy Scientist, another Monster, another Witch, another Cheerleader, another Werewolf...... (and I bet there is a Mummy and a Vampire among the 5 minifigures missing)

What's the sense on that?

How come someone thought this was a good idea?

Might have something to do with LEGO's recent rise in popularity bringing in a truckload of new customers who didn't know about or weren't collecting the CMFs for the past 5 years, and saying, "Man, that Zombie figure sure looks neat, but I only ever see him on eBay for $100". Keep in mind that for all your complaining about rehashes and variants of what we've already seen, there are people out there who just found out about this stuff. Maybe last February, or in June. So maybe LEGO is just trying to make it more accessible to new collectors without just blatantly re-releasing old waves.

If you don't like 'em, don't buy 'em! I've been saying that the whole time. Every wave, we get someone who just hates the new series (for the record, that was me back in Series 5, but I didn't say a lot about it). And they always say "That's it, the line is sunk because LEGO screwed it up and I don't like it now!" and then a couple months later we're all looking at a new set of leaks. Sorry you don't like them.

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LEGO has also stated that they occasionally release new versions of characters for those who miss previous versions. As a bonus, the new counterpart can supplement the older one (Said about the Evil Robot in the Visual Dictionary).

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I don't think that this is a brilliant move on LEGO's part, and here's why:

For starters, they are alienating a good percentage of their purchasing base with this move. Will it have an extreme effect on how many bags will be sold? Probably not. But they are pandering to a niche(and hoping to cash in on a certain license at the same time). That's not a bad thing - there are several other niches that I'm sure many of us would like to see, like Castle, Space, etc. But this niche is an extremely bad niche to start on, for one simple reason. This isn't a niche people will collect.

Sure, there are plenty of fans who will grab the series, and probably a good few extra people who will pick up the 'totally new, completely rad Legos*,' but no one is going to collect them. To really make money off a niche, you need a theme people have to buy multiples of to feel like they've completed that part of their collection, like Space Marines, Roman Soldiers, etc. In other words, army builders.

Sure, this theme does have the Zombie Cheerleader and Pirate, which you could argue are sort of army builders. But how many Zombie Pirate Captains do you need for a single ship**? And unless you've been specifically dreaming of that diorama of a minifig hero fighting bravely through the onslaught of Zombie Cheerleaders, collecting a cheer squad of them, although it 'might be cool,' is almost certainly not the highest thing on your shopping list.

*Misspelled intentionally.

**Of course, you could have a fleet of Zombie Pirate ships, but if so, you're almost certainly in the minority. But hey - the more Zombie Pirate Captains for you! Yay!

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Honestly, though, I think it's a little strange how some people condemn a monster series for being themed, but say "I'd absolutely love a Castle or Space series!!!" I, for one, have a bit less interest in those themes, and I think at this point, a Space series would be as repetitive as the Monster Series. We've had several evil robots, a good deal of aliens, and too many astronaut/armored trooper characters. How would a Space series be any more original than Series 14? We'd probably see a recolored Alien Trooper, Classic Alien, reuse of Space Miner helmet, etc. I understand that some Space fans would still buy them, but I can acknowledge the unoriginality in this series, and I would do so for a Space one of the same formula.

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Sure, there are plenty of fans who will grab the series, and probably a good few extra people who will pick up the 'totally new, completely rad Legos*,' but no one is going to collect them. To really make money off a niche, you need a theme people have to buy multiples of to feel like they've completed that part of their collection, like Space Marines, Roman Soldiers, etc. In other words, army builders.

Lego is filled with niche themes that are successful without the need to sell multiples. Army building is a niche inside of a niche and in the overall picture is fairly minuscule. And by your reasoning the Simpsons cmf should be a disaster because obviously no one is going to buy multiples upon multiples of homer to build a doh army.

There will of course be plenty of collectors who will collect this series. Plus the fact that these will be out the same time as the scooby doo theme and during halloween they should do very well. Many of what we have seen would easily fit in with scooby doo. And scooby is very popular with TLG's target market, which of course is not army building AFOLs.

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You know, LEGO are releasing CMFs to catch the attention of children as an impulse buy/pester purchase. They are catching the eye of the casual LEGO appreciator; a lot of adults think LEGO is "pretty neat" and a figure that fits their personality would look just the right amount of "quirky" for the desk at work. It is a great way to have a diverse population in your build, or to get a figure that would never fit a theme.

Army builders are indeed a niche in a niche and TLG are not targeting them to make their money.

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I'm sure there are people out there that would love LEGO to zombie-fy existing characters and put out a series for that. And you know, for the people that missed out the S1 zombie. On that note, I never did find Mister Gold so it's likely LEGO will put out a completely gold-theme for an upcoming series. :classic:

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LEGO has also stated that they occasionally release new versions of characters for those who miss previous versions. As a bonus, the new counterpart can supplement the older one (Said about the Evil Robot in the Visual Dictionary).

This is very true, no matter it is an excuse for LEGO or not. Just based on this saying, the wolfman from the prototype leak has almost no alterations, while the guitarist monster was abit creepy. Just hope that LEGO make the final products work.

And honestly some of those CMFs we had are also rehashings from regular themes. As long as some of them make regular returns in regular sets, CMF series doesn't really have to deal with specific needs.

But still, it's not really the main topic for series 14. Rehashings also appear in regular series. My personal assumption for this themed normal series is that LEGO just want to try a different marketing strategy instead of running out of ideas.

Honestly, though, I think it's a little strange how some people condemn a monster series for being themed, but say "I'd absolutely love a Castle or Space series!!!" I, for one, have a bit less interest in those themes, and I think at this point, a Space series would be as repetitive as the Monster Series. We've had several evil robots, a good deal of aliens, and too many astronaut/armored trooper characters. How would a Space series be any more original than Series 14? We'd probably see a recolored Alien Trooper, Classic Alien, reuse of Space Miner helmet, etc. I understand that some Space fans would still buy them, but I can acknowledge the unoriginality in this series, and I would do so for a Space one of the same formula.

Agree, that's totally missing the mark. Unless LEGO officially declare that "no more divese regular series, only themed series from now on", we should know that regular series have been giving us the themes we want and themed series doesn't change this fact. I believe that time could make ideas better, so we don't have to force the CMF team to give us the golden egg at once.

Oh, and I'm abit surprised that more people dislike this crazy scientist than I thought. I personally like him over the previous two CS (from series 4 and MF) which were not orignial enough to me.

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My guess for the remaining five are:

12. Little Princess with wand

13. Ghostly Gentleman

14. Pharaoh Mummy (which is similar to Amsat-Ra from Pharaoh's Quest)

15. Bedtime Girl with pink teddy and two interchangeable reversible faces (one has sleeping and awake and the other one is scared and worried)

16. Steampunk Guy

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a pink teddy bear would make the whole thing worth it for me. I would forgive the whole horrible series, just let me have the teddy.

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This is very true, no matter it is an excuse for LEGO or not. Just based on this saying, the wolfman from the prototype leak has almost no alterations, while the guitarist monster was abit creepy. Just hope that LEGO make the final products work.

And honestly some of those CMFs we had are also rehashings from regular themes. As long as some of them make regular returns in regular sets, CMF series doesn't really have to deal with specific needs.

But still, it's not really the main topic for series 14. Rehashings also appear in regular series. My personal assumption for this themed normal series is that LEGO just want to try a different marketing strategy instead of running out of ideas.

But this new one isn't a Werewolf

... It's a Furry!

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We'll call him a "trick-or-treater". :grin: The kiddies can't know! But honestly. what I like about the mask is that it offers two options. Is it a costume, or is the Lumberjack out on the full moon?

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Usually the face beneath the mask tells everything. I assume TLG would find out ways to make the mask more obvious to differentiate from actual animal molds, so to me it's not qualified as a mask. Of course, these are still prototypes so that wolf head could be changed anytime.

15. Bedtime Girl with pink teddy and two interchangeable reversible faces (one has sleeping and awake and the other one is scared and worried)

Uhmmmmm.

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No, at this point it seems pretty clear that it is the CMF series after The Simpsons 2. I don't think White Fang would have asked our opinion of the leaked photos like that I'd it wasn't. Besides we have seen the Scooby Doo sets now.

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My guess for the remaining five are:

12. Little Princess with wand

13. Ghostly Gentleman

14. Pharaoh Mummy (which is similar to Amsat-Ra from Pharaoh's Quest)

15. Bedtime Girl with pink teddy and two interchangeable reversible faces (one has sleeping and awake and the other one is scared and worried)

16. Steampunk Guy

There is the possibility that they will also use the pumpkin head mold from Scooby Doo for this series too.

Sure, there are plenty of fans who will grab the series, and probably a good few extra people who will pick up the 'totally new, completely rad Legos*,' but no one is going to collect them. To really make money off a niche, you need a theme people have to buy multiples of to feel like they've completed that part of their collection, like Space Marines, Roman Soldiers, etc. In other words, army builders.

I see army builders ... zombie business man, zombie cheerleader, flytrap, tiger, skeleton suit.

Sure, for some they would not be army builders, but look back at past series ... lizard man, gorilla suit, unicorn, bumblebee, rabbit, hot dog guy, ... none were necessarily as obvious army builders as the spartan, roman and elf and yet they have been collected as armies. There are even armies of the trend setter, librarian and spooky girl out there.

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This series is most certainly not Scooby-Doo. That was just a rumor. (There are yellow minifigures in the series; it's not licensed). The series just so happens to coincide with Scooby-Doo.

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How about some Non-monster Halloween minifigures such as a person who give candy and treats to the trick O treaters and a grave digger?

Why the Skeleton boy does not have a skull printing on his head like the one from Yooha's Minifigures advent calendar?

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How about some Non-monster Halloween minifigures such as a person who give candy and treats to the trick O treaters and a grave digger?

Why the Skeleton boy does not have a skull printing on his head like the one from Yooha's Minifigures advent calendar?

It is speculated that the skeleton hows head is switched out for another figure. Hopefully this is the case. That could mean a ghost fig is among the missing five.

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