Lind Whisperer Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Unvote: Goliath Can someone do a quick recount of the votes?
Brickelodeon Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I believe the the two major suspects are as follows: Lord Duvors - 7 votes Jamesn - 8 votes
Mencot Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Yes I believe that is correct based on daves vote list. Iit is not official but Dave is, altough a pirate a correct guy in these cases.
jluck Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I see a lot of people stopping by and leaving; care to comment? What's the concensus here; do we need a lynch? I've said my piece and made my case, nothing's changed. In regards to needing a lynch...YES! I have fought this battle in most every mafia I've played. How does no lynch benefit us? So yes.
StickFig Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Awake (barely), hahaha thanks Stinky Dave for trearing apart my attempts to contribute by pointing out and voting for two players who had been completely unhelpful. I am going to wait a few more hours to see if anyone else votes Captain Settle but we need a lynch so I suppose I try to decide between our two "sexy" candidates... still haven't seen much from either beyond "annoying fluff" and "actually read the rules".
TheLazyChicken Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I've said my piece and made my case, nothing's changed. In regards to needing a lynch...YES! I have fought this battle in most every mafia I've played. How does no lynch benefit us? So yes. I agree, I think a lynch is necassary because that is what we will have to base of for the second day. Also where is Goliath? We haven't heard from him lately.
Duvors Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Also where is Goliath? We haven't heard from him lately. Goliath is doing things in the Heroica RPG sub-forum, he'll probably be back soon. I hope.
Yzalirk Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Also where is Goliath? We haven't heard from him lately. I've been trying to read through all the posts carefully but I'm not sure whether to change my vote. It's not that I want to go along with everyone else. If possible, I would like to see what jamesn and Lord Duvors have to say before I can make my final judgement.
Captain Settle Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 If we don't lynch anyone today, the second day will be filled with the same pointless fluff and speculation as today. So yes, I definitely say we lynch someone.
Yzalirk Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 If we don't lynch anyone today, the second day will be filled with the same pointless fluff and speculation as today. So yes, I definitely say we lynch someone. That makes a lot of sense actually, I'll agree with that. And scratch what I said, I think I'll just keep my vote anyway.
Mencot Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 If we don't lynch anyone today, the second day will be filled with the same pointless fluff and speculation as today. So yes, I definitely say we lynch someone. Uuuh, "we lynch someone", just like that. Not to be rude but that is obviously that we need to lynch, genius. But that thing is who?
Duvors Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I've been trying to read through all the posts carefully but I'm not sure whether to change my vote. It's not that I want to go along with everyone else. If possible, I would like to see what jamesn and Lord Duvors have to say before I can make my final judgement. Well, I've already said everything I can say, it basically amounts to; Please don't kill me, there is a vague possibility that I might be town, I know I haven't been helpful or anything but I can try. Vote for Jamesn, I think he's a little suspicious.Did that sway you? No? Well that's perfectly normal. If we don't lynch anyone today, the second day will be filled with the same pointless fluff and speculation as today. So yes, I definitely say we lynch someone. So the kills that the mafia will carry out during the night will have no effect on our speculations?Well aside from that minor and easily brushed aside complaint, I'm inclined to agree, let's lynch someone and see what comes of it.
Mencot Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 That makes a lot of sense actually, I'll agree with that. And scratch what I said, I think I'll just keep my vote anyway. really? Maybe I was wrong about you...
Yzalirk Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Well, I've already said everything I can say, it basically amounts to; Please don't kill me, there is a vague possibility that I might be town, I know I haven't been helpful or anything but I can try. Vote for Jamesn, I think he's a little suspicious. Did that sway you? No? Well that's perfectly normal. It really didn't but I do find jamesn to be a bit more suspicious than you so I'll just keep my vote as is.
jluck Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 6 hours til nightfall. I believe the the two major suspects are as follows: Lord Duvors - 7 votes Jamesn - 8 votes Something's gotta give...
mostlytechnic Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I agree we need a lynch. Lord Duvors does seem like he has given up. His recent post we better and he does seem more townie. Jamesn is still acting scummy, hasn't given me a good reason not to change my vote to him...and Mostlytechnic is defending him instead of him defending himself. Definite scum buddies those two. There's no reason to keep a vote on Captain anymore other than to prevent a lynch, and that would be a mistake. So (although I still think he's the scummiest person here at the moment, based on his bandwagon voting): Unvote: Captain Settle (Captain Settle) Now, as to who to vote for. Out of the only two to pick from at this point, I think Lord Duvors is slightly more probable town. I think he's just gotten beaten up with not a great reason - fluffy, frequent day 1 posting is usually a townie. The scum are usually quiet. Jamesn, on the other hand.... while I think he's LIKELY town as well (heck, just play the odds and he's more likely town than scum), I also think he's certainly experienced enough to look helpful and townie while actually being scummy to the core. And since SOMEONE needs to go, so we have info to go off of tomorrow, Vote: jamesn (jamesn) by my count, that makes it 9 votes jamesn, 7 for Duvors, and 1 on Captain (and Lind and Pyro haven't put a vote down currently)
def Posted October 7, 2014 Author Posted October 7, 2014 Vote tally: Lord Duvors 7 (Jamesn, Mencot, Captain Settle, jluckhaupt, Adventurer1, Kintober, Scaevola) Jamesn 9 (CutCobra, Goliath, Xenophobic Monoxide, Richila, Brickelodeon, The Lazy Chicken, Lord Duvors, Dave, mostlytechnic) Captain Settle 1 (StickFig) About 7.5 hours left in the day.
Lind Whisperer Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Vote: Captain Settle My reasoning on the current canidates: Lord Duvors: He was a bit fluffy at first, but he seems to have gotten back into the game. It could be that he realized that he was being called out, it could be that he just didn't have anything to contribute. I am not entirely convinced he's town, but I am convinced enough so that I do not choose to vote for him tonight. Jamesn: I understand the bandwagon against him, but I thought of something. He has at no point really tried to "hide from the crowd," nor really has he ever made "fluffy" posts. If anything, his posts are better at drawing attention than diverting it. He's an experienced player, with several completed games. Would an experienced scum really intentionally get into that many arguments? It could be done, but it seems more dangerous than not, with very few possible benefits. I am not entirely convinced he's town, but I am more willing to risk that he's not than that he is. Captain Settle: After considering everyone, Captain Settle came to the forefront. He's been called out multiple times for having mostly contributed fluff, and yet he still hasn't tried to defend himself or offer any justification for it, at any point, unlike every other person called on it. Richila has an overall lower post count, but she has contributed repeatedly. Look at his last quote: If we don't lynch anyone today, the second day will be filled with the same pointless fluff and speculation as today. So yes, I definitely say we lynch someone. That's not contributing, that's repeating what everyone knows in a way that looks like something slightly new. I'm not sure that his "definitely say we lynch someone" is indicative of scum, but it certainly matches the profile of stirring the water without drawing attention.
jluck Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 (Snip) by my count, that makes it 9 votes jamesn, 7 for Duvors, and 1 on Captain (and Lind and Pyro haven't put a vote down currently) Come to think of it, where has pyro been? His vote means a lot right now. And stickfig, you're throwing your vote away. I saw lindwhisper post above so I assume he's still actively following. And Lind you vote as soon as I start to post But a vote for settle does nothing! It's likely far to late to build up any momentum in his direction, do you not want a lynch?
Lind Whisperer Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 But a vote for settle does nothing! It's likely far to late to build up any momentum in his direction, do you not want a lynch? As I already said, I have gone over the options, and I am beginning to suspect they both may be town. I do not want a lynch for no good reason. Goliath was drawing too much attention, even if he was town, and he wasn't playing to the betterment of the team as a whole. Lord Duvors and Jamesn have their own issues, but I have already explained my own feelings toward them. Captain Settle, as I said, has shown several indicators of being scum, and he has not responded to a single one of them, unlike the other two candidates, who have both defended themselves to a decent extent. Captain Settle thus far has stuck to being silent, and although his name has come up occasionally, no one has paid it much heed.
jluck Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 As I already said, I have gone over the options, and I am beginning to suspect they both may be town. I do not want a lynch for no good reason. Goliath was drawing too much attention, even if he was town, and he wasn't playing to the betterment of the team as a whole. Lord Duvors and Jamesn have their own issues, but I have already explained my own feelings toward them. Captain Settle, as I said, has shown several indicators of being scum, and he has not responded to a single one of them, unlike the other two candidates, who have both defended themselves to a decent extent. Captain Settle thus far has stuck to being silent, and although his name has come up occasionally, no one has paid it much heed. While I completely understand your reasoning, and by no means do I feel that captain settle is the town-iest fella, it still doesn't make a difference. Here's why, say things stay as are and we don't get a lynch, we wake up tomorrow and find one of us gone, and for what? It will be day 1 on repeat. The scum will be just as strong, the town will be weaker, and we will have no new information to build on. And it's all about the information. There is no victory in your throwing your vote away just to claim the moral high ground. Now let's replay the scenario, say we do get a lynch and were wrong. Unfortunately, we've killed a townie, but it will be one who looks scummy and thus distracts us from the true scum. Also, we will have info to pick through. We can see who voted where and why. I've always said it and I always will, we need the lynch, even if it means we have to budge just a bit. It seems cruel to whomever is on the receiving end, but that's how this game is won.
TheLazyChicken Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 While I completely understand your reasoning, and by no means do I feel that captain settle is the town-iest fella, it still doesn't make a difference. Here's why, say things stay as are and we don't get a lynch, we wake up tomorrow and find one of us gone, and for what? It will be day 1 on repeat. The scum will be just as strong, the town will be weaker, and we will have no new information to build on. And it's all about the information. There is no victory in your throwing your vote away just to claim the moral high ground. Now let's replay the scenario, say we do get a lynch and were wrong. Unfortunately, we've killed a townie, but it will be one who looks scummy and thus distracts us from the true scum. Also, we will have info to pick through. We can see who voted where and why. I've always said it and I always will, we need the lynch, even if it means we have to budge just a bit. It seems cruel to whomever is on the receiving end, but that's how this game is won. I couldn't agree more with you. A vote is needed for a lynch, if we do not have anyone that receives 10 votes, will just have to repeat what we did today and once again, its going to be pointless. Also its going to be a vote gone to waste.
Lind Whisperer Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I couldn't agree more with you. A vote is needed for a lynch, if we do not have anyone that receives 10 votes, will just have to repeat what we did today and once again, its going to be pointless. Also its going to be a vote gone to waste. You're repeating what he said, in different words...Like you've done quite a bit of...
mostlytechnic Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 And I too agree, Lind, you're screwing the town with that vote. I too would rather vote for Captain than Lord or jamesn, but I changed mine because we NEED the lynch. Yes, mathematically and using purely logical reasoning, it'd be better for the town to not lynch on day 1 (and there's websites out there I've looked at before doing some analysis of that, in way more depth than a mafia game deserves). HOWEVER, the lynch, learning of someone's allegiance, and then analyzing everyone's votes is pretty much all we have to go on for day 2. And that is CRITICAL information, absolutely worth sacrificing a townie for. You're repeating what he said, in different words...Like you've done quite a bit of... Well, when 1 person says the truth, what's wrong with a second (and third) saying it too? In this case, one obviously wasn't enough since you havent' changed your mind. Frankly, your vote is a big enough error that it makes me wonder if you, Lord, and jamesn are all scum together since you're so reluctant to vote for one of them.
TheLazyChicken Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 You're repeating what he said, in different words...Like you've done quite a bit of... Now that I actually look at it, I kind of did, but what I am really trying to say is that it would be better for you to change your vote, its going to be a waste if you just don't try to help out the rest of us.
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