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#26 Mister Phes

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 12:04 AM

I think I like the first version better myself, however, I'm going to do a version using plates after I get some more feedback on the slopes.

And does anyone know how to add the Imperial Guard flag to the MCLAD Library?

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 12:25 AM

View PostMister Phes, on Feb 22 2007, 01:04 AM, said:

I think I like the first version better myself, however, I'm going to do a version using plates after I get some more feedback on the slopes.

And does anyone know how to add the Imperial Guard flag to the MCLAD Library?

Hi,
I prefer the version with sloping only on the sides, not in the front, that would be the more realistic.
I think It's a nice small moc and a good start for something bigger, like a modular moc.

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 01:56 AM

View PostMister Phes, on Feb 21 2007, 02:52 PM, said:

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Or should I do a third version that's half way between the first version and third version, I.e. Only having the slopes on the left and right sides while the front and back are flat?

this looks like the one I just whipped up to show what could be done.

I was actually advocating for the third version you mention, all 45 degree slopes, flat in the front and back, but over hung to offer some extra shelter.  I just didn't want to do that version in the CAD tutorial since this is your MOC.  I did the other version because I hadn't advocated it, so I didn't feel like I was taking it over!

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#29 Mister Phes

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 02:11 AM

I'll do a version with the 45 degree slopes later when I have some free time - since technically the 35 degree slope is your version Mr ZCerberus  X-D

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 04:23 AM

I deffinately prefer the first version...the second version's roof looks too...big. And I like the flag where it used to be in the back.
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Posted 22 February 2007 - 04:33 AM

Simple but sweet! Sometimes the smaller designs can be the real gems.

As for improvement, I would suggest two flame peices on the torch. It would give the whole MOC a more life-like feel. Personally, I think the flag would look better behind the building, as you showed in your second MCLad.

Nice job! This is gonna turn out well!  *y*

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 06:23 AM

View PostMister Phes, on Feb 21 2007, 02:52 PM, said:

I didn't include the grey plate out of necessity, I included it because it is part of the aesthetic of Imperial Guard sets.  For example: the red sloped in the Imperial Trading Post has a grey plate beneath it, but its not really required.

Well the one on the Imperial Trading post is because there is a floor underneath it!  Even the roof on the building in the back has some strange storage stuff under it...

In my Imperial Harbor I tried extra super hard to make sure that the gray floor plates didn't show on the sides of the buildings!  If you go back and look at the CADs or the construction to see what I mean!

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 10:06 PM

Looks kinda like that old castle set w/ the blue octagonal roof

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 01:29 AM

View PostZCerberus, on Feb 21 2007, 02:01 PM, said:

I was just looking to expand the MLCAD empire!

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First the spanish armada wants a world empire, then the french want a world empire,
And now Z wants an MLCAD empire.
When does it stop?  It's getting to the point where i'll just start shooting every vessel i meet in the open seas.

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 12:11 AM

View Postphred, on Feb 22 2007, 07:29 PM, said:

And now Z wants an MLCAD empire.

Yeah I do!!!... wanna join my Empire?  MLCAD Empire of victory!  I mean we already have the midwest connection, and you have used the MLCADs before!  I think the Dame du Loup and the Arbiter II could seriously own the seas!  Plus, Maybe boney would join the Empire as he has been using MLCAD a bunch lately.  If we added his ground forces and his ship, The L'Orient could be a nice addition.

I will make a pact with you.  We can kill all the Spanish and use Fort Brighton as our homebase!!!!

And if you're nice, I can share 2% of my plunder!

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 02:57 AM

That's a nice sentry box, you've built there, Mr. Phes. *y* I like this one over your previous effort, mainly because its design isn't overly simplistic.  With this design you've managed to find the right balance.  I will say that I thought your use of the Fabuland roof piece was a rather creative choice and I didn't think it looked bad at all.  

Captain Roger made a good point in the other sentry thread.  Since you don't have a lot of spare time on your hands, it might be beneficial to you to build portions of a larger MOC of some sort.  Plus, I'm sure everyone would be excited to see the finished product.

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 06:22 AM

View PostZCerberus, on Feb 23 2007, 06:11 PM, said:

Yeah I do!!!... wanna join my Empire?  MLCAD Empire of victory!  I mean we already have the midwest connection, and you have used the MLCADs before!
I'm sorry to say that i've never used MLCAD before 8-|
Anything that's CAD-like that i've shown on EB is from Lego Factory 1.6   :)

View PostZCerberus, on Feb 23 2007, 06:11 PM, said:

I think the Dame du Loup and the Arbiter II could seriously own the seas!  Plus, Maybe boney would join the Empire as he has been using MLCAD a bunch lately.  If we added his ground forces and his ship, The L'Orient could be a nice addition.
I think B already has an empire ;-)   Dunno if he'd want to join yours or just take it over. :-$
Hopefully he's not mad at me for me taking a French 44 gun frigate 8-|

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I will make a pact with you.  We can kill all the Spanish and use Fort Brighton as our homebase!!!!

And if you're nice, I can share 2% of my plunder!
Suppose i could go privateer. I'll have to check out MLCAD first.
Is it much different from Lego Factory 1.6 and where do you download it?

:-|| Nice?  Sorry mate, nice isn't in my vocabulary :-O  j/k


Mr. Phes,
A suggestion for the roof is to have the same roof as the first design and rotate the roof 90 degrees.
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It gives an over hang for the guard and the roof isn't oversized either *y*


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Posted 24 February 2007 - 05:19 PM

View Postphred, on Feb 24 2007, 12:22 AM, said:

I'm sorry to say that i've never used MLCAD before 8-|
Anything that's CAD-like that i've shown on EB is from Lego Factory 1.6   :)

Never mind, you can't be in my Empire then!

Anyhow, I am not sure turning the roof is is that much different.  Now he will have the more protection from the elements, true enough, but rain is going to run down straight onto his torches!!

I still think it should just overhang the sides by a stud with all 45 degree slopes!!

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 05:48 PM

View Postphred, on Feb 24 2007, 07:22 AM, said:

I'm sorry to say that i've never used MLCAD before 8-|
Anything that's CAD-like that i've shown on EB is from Lego Factory 1.6   :)
I think B already has an empire ;-)   Dunno if he'd want to join yours or just take it over. :-$
Hopefully he's not mad at me for me taking a French 44 gun frigate 8-|
Suppose i could go privateer. I'll have to check out MLCAD first.
Is it much different from Lego Factory 1.6 and where do you download it?

:-|| Nice?  Sorry mate, nice isn't in my vocabulary :-O  j/k
Mr. Phes,
A suggestion for the roof is to have the same roof as the first design and rotate the roof 90 degrees.
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It gives an over hang for the guard and the roof isn't oversized either *y*
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By making the roof like this, all the water from the roof will fall on the minifig (and the torches like Z. mentioned)... theoretically speaking  :-D

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#40 Mister Phes

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 10:36 AM

Ok...  Some new roof variations...

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I still like the very first "slopes" roof I created...

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 03:14 PM

View PostMister Phes, on Feb 25 2007, 04:36 AM, said:

Ok...  Some new roof variations...

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I still like the very first "slopes" roof I created...


I am not a huge fan of any of those.

This is actually what I was advocating...

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It is okay.... maybe a 6x6 area is just too small for a good roof!!

I did a couple other versions as well, but they sure do suck... a lot!

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 04:12 PM

I actually like the sloped plates. Other wise, it's the original one I like best.
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 04:27 PM

View PostZCerberus, on Feb 25 2007, 04:14 PM, said:

I am not a huge fan of any of those.

This is actually what I was advocating...

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It is okay.... maybe a 6x6 area is just too small for a good roof!!

I did a couple other versions as well, but they sure do suck... a lot!

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I like the first and the second one. The sloped plates were also used in the ITP I believe...

The other ones have to much red IMO.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 09:57 PM

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Hmmm...  Not sure if I like the jagged roof


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This was going to be my next venture but it looks like I've been beaten to it!

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 09:57 PM

I too like the above roof designs!  There was a folder on brickshelf that contained some unique roof designs using unusual pieces...

Here it is: LINK

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 10:59 PM

View PostBerry Syedow, on Feb 25 2007, 10:57 PM, said:

I too like the above roof designs!  There was a folder on brickshelf that contained some unique roof designs using unusual pieces...

Here it is: LINK

Some nice ideas here, but not very practical because some parts are rather rare or expensive (the red flags).

I still prefer the original roof that Mr. Phes designed.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 08:44 AM

View PostBerry Syedow, on Feb 26 2007, 08:57 AM, said:

I too like the above roof designs!  There was a folder on brickshelf that contained some unique roof designs using unusual pieces...Here it is: LINK

These roof tops look very interesting...

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However, I don't think they're quite suitable for a MOC trying to simulate a SYSTEM Pirate set.  But that doesn't mean they won't be useful down the track in another MOC so thanks for sharing them!

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 12:22 PM

View Postphred, on Feb 21 2007, 06:53 PM, said:

just FYI,
The green leaf does fit onto those two 1x1 bricks (w/ stud on side) perfectly fine.
I saw what you had mentioned also, the "bottom" of the leaf on sticks out a mm or two from the wall; it's barely noticeable and looks fine  ;-)  *y*

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It was more about making it look connected in the picture - if he moves it towards the wall, the lower stud of the leaf will go through the wall, so the ideal thing to do is to bend the leaf slightly like you do in the real model, but from my experience that's not an easy thing to do in MLCad!

Who would have thought this would be a community project?  *sweet*
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Posted 26 February 2007 - 03:04 PM

View PostMister Phes, on Feb 26 2007, 09:44 AM, said:

These roof tops look very interesting...

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However, I don't think they're quite suitable for a MOC trying to simulate a SYSTEM Pirate set.  But that doesn't mean they won't be useful down the track in another MOC so thanks for sharing them!

The thumbnails didn't work.. I edited them...

Those desings are very nice, But you are right about it, that these techniques wouldn't be used in SYSTEM pirate sets...

Maybe I'll use them for a MOC..

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 04:56 AM

Hey Mr. Phes,
You have any updates on the final design for your sentry box?

I changed mine a little so that there's a magnetic lego brick on the back.

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When i got the 2x4 magnetic bricks, i was surprised at how strong the magnets are. *y*
That one magnetic brick easily holds up the sentry box on the cabinet door, even when you open and close the door.

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