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#26 zephyr1934

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 06:48 AM

View PostFrank STENGEL, on 23 October 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Just nitpicking: isn't the 4449 supposed to be on the smokestack's side? I can't see how one could do it, but still... :blush:
That is the train number not the locomotive number and back in the day it would be changed on each run. Since restoration, it is usually "X4449" indicating roughly, "train number: eXtra, pulled by locomotive 4449", following the convention of back in the day.

#27 SavaTheAggie

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 10:19 PM

The number boards have been moved several times over the coarse of her life.  

From delivery up until the 70's she wore her number boards mid-boiler.  Then when she was rescued, refitted, and repainted to pull the American Freedom train in 1976, her number boards were moved up to the smokebox.

Sometime afterward she was returned to her original Daylight livery and her number boards moved back mid-boiler.  After September 11th, she was once again repainted in the AFT colors and likewise her number boards moved back to the smokebox.

Today she once again wears the Daylight livery but her number boards are still up front in the AFT position.

So my model of the 4449 and her 'X4449' number board placement is accurate for the years between 1980 and 2001.

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#28 SavaTheAggie

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:24 PM

I apologize for resurrecting this thread yet again.  I'm sure most if you are tired of seeing it pop up on the list.

But for those interested, I have a video of the redesigned #4449 from TexLUG's most recent display.



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#29 Electricsteam

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:33 PM

I love the MOC :wub:  It reminds me of the Steam engine sitting behind the Science Museum of Virginia , I nice little fact the SMV used to be Richmonds main Train station and they have 2 coaches a Chessie caboose and a Chesapeake and Ohio (I think) Steam Locomotive. The engine is getting so rusted and wore out from no care it makes me cry :cry_sad:

Maybe you could do some reseach and make that your next Moc to sell :grin:
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:35 PM

:-) amazing work!

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#31 The Dutch Guy

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:40 AM

View PostSavaTheAggie, on 19 November 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

I apologize for resurrecting this thread yet again.  I'm sure most if you are tired of seeing it pop up on the list.

But for those interested, I have a video of the redesigned #4449 from TexLUG's most recent display.

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#32 DmChylde

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:22 AM

View PostSavaTheAggie, on 19 November 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

I apologize for resurrecting this thread yet again.

I have to agree with The Dutch Guy I never get tired of seeing your work! Glad that she runs great after a few mods!

I hope one day you'll have instructions in your shop for it! but till then I'll settle for the real deal here in the northwest!

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:51 AM

Tired of my favorite MOC of any kind ever? No, don't think so. Post away!!!
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:11 AM

This may be a little late. But this is the delapadated steam locomotive at the SoV :grin:  http://www.flickr.co...in/photostream/  This is not my picture but this was the only picture I could find of it. :sceptic:
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#35 SavaTheAggie

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 06:23 PM

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Thanks to my efforts to create instructions for my model of the 4449, I was able to change a few things around from the original, including the inclusion of some new parts that LEGO has made in recent years that I didn't have access to previously.

Her boiler has been made more robust, but more signifigant to some of you is that I was able to move the number plate forward.  This is because of the new inverted 1x2 bracket.  I'll have to take new photos of my version with the actual numbers on slopes, whereas here in the render the number plates are just tiles for ease of construction.

Other minor changes include swapping 1x1 cheese slopes with 1x2 cheese slopes to smooth out her lines.  This is most apparent on the cow catcher.

I was also painfully reminded on just how complex and convoluted I was forced to build her. :tongue:

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 10:20 PM

I hate you, in a very good demented way.

Your work is awesome, forcing me to buy instructions as money permits :laugh:

Beautiful job on a beautiful engine.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 10:34 PM

When the Horizon Express was rumored on this website, I was really, really hoping it would be something like your SP Daylight. This is my favorite MOC and the one I've wanted a copy to build for myself for the longest time. I will definitely be buying. Any estimate on number of pieces? Beautiful work.
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Posted 30 May 2014 - 11:16 PM

Thank you both.  As built she's 1309 parts.

She's ready for purchase in my BL shop whenever you two decide to pull the trigger.  :grin:

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#39 LEGO Train 12 Volts

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 05:52 AM

Hey Tony,
I'm a fan of the german steam engines but see this beauty run fast on the layout is really sweet!
Great work ...the community will be happy to find your instrucions!

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#40 Redimus

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 02:49 PM

I wish there was someone selling British outline designs of this quality... There's a few guys building them, but they're not selling or publishing their designs, and I have *no idea* how they manage what they do, and the few designs that are available are underwhelming.

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#41 Richie

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:08 PM

Great work Tony! :thumbup: While I don't have any American equipment, this locomotive is awesome, both in real as in your model. So maybe I'll buy instructions as well and start building an American layout. :laugh:

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and I have *no idea* how they manage what they do, and the few designs that are available are underwhelming.
There are plenty of pictures at Flickr, just look at the techniques used and use them to make your own British design. In that way, I was able to convert one of Tony's designs into a small Dutch-design freight engine. The fact that it's still a WIP says more about my lack of motivation I guess, but the running gear and overall looks are done.

It's multifunctionomical.

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:26 PM

Yeah, I've tried to to a certain extent, but it's hard when half the time you don't even know those bricks exist! Apart from the odd Star Wars Lego set, most of my Lego dates from the late 70s to the mid 90s!

LDD helps too, but you're still often left looking at CG versions of brick not being entirely sure how they're supposed to fit with everything else!

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 01:54 PM

Awesome! Thank you for releasing the instructions for this. I hope one day to be able to fund a copy of it.
I noticed one change immediately in the rendering... your use of the new 2 x 1 curved slope in Orange (11477)... love this piece.

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 07:53 PM

That is one slick locomotive, really awesome! Nice job!
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Posted 02 June 2014 - 10:19 PM

Very good work , excellent work...

A little Story... Time ago i want to Made the triplex erie....and my friend lt12 Made it....
After i want to Made the Pacific daylight( with the Red/blue/ white color) and you Made it....

It is a joke or what? Your model is wonderful, now i have to restart with something different!

But you Made a really nice job, i like it very much... Maybe i get the instruction and Made some modification, my problem now is HOW to Made the white line( if you Check the other color type)

You are really a master builder for streaming loco!
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#46 SavaTheAggie

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 03:35 AM

Just because I've built something that some people say is good, doesn't mean it can't be improved upon, or that you shouldn't try building it yourself.  Even if you don't feel it'll be as good, that's no reason to not try.

Go for it, and I hope to see your finished result.

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#47 Redimus

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 11:57 AM

I'm a great believer that, if I can find someone else's idea and it looks better than I can imagine doing myself, to borrow their designs, follow them, then modify them for your own uses. That said, not sure this design needs all that much tweaking (not overly familiar with American locos).

There's no shame in learning from other's work, I could bash bricks together for ever and not achieve what these people have, but once I've recreated their building techniques, I am able to go on and design my own stuff with the new skills learnt.

Just make sure you give credit to them when you show off your heavily inspired models.
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