Fives, on 23 October 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:
We will indisputably get The Hobbit BPs. The reason we aren't seeing any this wave is because the first film, which this wave is mostly based on, features no major armies. All the conflicts are just the dwarves vs. smaller groups of orcs and wargs, not thousands of them. By the time of the third film we should see at least one BP, if not a set like Uruk-Hai Army, to satiate the craving us AFOLs have for vast armies.
I know there aren't thousands, but it does mentions hundreds of Wargs and Goblins when the dwarves get stuck in the trees. That's a pretty sizable force. It does seem most likely we would get battle packs for the third film when the Battle of the Five Armies takes place, but still I would think they would release some battle packs before that. The battle has huge companies of dwarves, humans, elves, goblins, wargs, and eagles so it's going to be impossible to cover battle packs for each faction while still offering normal sets that wave. They would need 4-5 battle packs alone to cover each faction. Lego should get a jump on it now and offer the warg/eagle battle pack since we have a scene featuring large numbers of each in the first film, and then later offer a couple battle packs with strictly soldiers that have a lot more goblins, humans, elves, and dwarves in them. Personally I don't think The Hobbit lends itself anywhere near as well to battle packs as the LotR does though.
Gryphon Ink, on 23 October 2012 - 06:16 AM, said:
I don't mean to keep droning on about this, but why do you think TLG make polybags and entry-level sets for every theme, but only a few themes get battle packs each year, and only Star Wars gets battle packs on a regular basis? Target and Wal-Mart stick polybags in their checkout aisles. Parents buy them to quell their whiny offspring. (I'm allowed to say this because I'm a parent and I've done it!) Stop 'n Shop sell the small sets in their toy aisle, conveniently located across from the party supply shelves. TRU sell the little Friends sets by the dozen.
I do get what you are saying and I totally understand, I have had this conversation with other people before. I just think certain themes really lend themselves well to battle packs. Obviously a theme like City, or even moresoe Friends doesn't lend itself to army builders in the slightest. What are you going to have, an army of Jennifers and Mias? And for City, you usually get a decent size force of police officers or firefighters just from buying all the other sets so there isn't a huge demand for "battle packs" there either (though I do know they offer them once in awhile). On the other hand look at Star Wars. The theme screams
for battle packs. So much so (If I am not mistaken), one wave this year alone had four
army builders. That's nuts and obviously shows that battle packs can outsell a more iconic set if placed in the right theme and done right. I think LotR is such a theme.
I mean we already know LotR isn't as heavily targeted to children. There is no recent cartoon or tie in yet and there has been nothing other than a few video games released here and there for the past ten years to hype up the new Lego theme. Sure we are getting a Lego video game, but it's coming out almost 5 months after the first LotR wave was released. Not only that, the line is based off of movies that are somewhat violent for kids and rated PG-13. For most Lego toys, 13 is the cut off age they list on the box (I know it doesn't mean much, but it's interesting to note).
With all that in mind, why not try to make a battle pack? Like I said before, I think the LotR franchise is tailor made for something like that. You have so many huge armies doing battle throughout the films and books it's not even funny. There are so many factions and soldiers in each, the line is just meant for battle packs. You have Orcs, goblins, trolls, Rohirrim, Gondorians, Haradrim, Easternlings, undead Oathbreakers, elves, rangers... the list goes on and on.
Edited by Deathleech, 25 October 2012 - 05:03 PM.