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#26 Frank Brick Wright

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:46 PM

I understand the choice of white as being a common colour, but I guess it is just too much white. On the stern we would probably expect some details in other colours as well but I think that it will look even more weird if you change all the whiteness just there - I would keep if that way (perhaps only a black lamp would be better).

As you said yourself the stern still needs some improvements. I actually like the windows as they are. I can however suggest you a precious piece here which I have recently found. Posted Image This little wedge can build a fantastic transition in the top of the galleries where currently you have the cheese and the red plates.

The bow also looks very nice, though probably the anchors are a bit too rectilineal.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:34 PM

Wow, she is looking great. I'm a little surprised by the level of detail you've managed to include. Expect a lot of your methods to be copied in the future, even by my self. I wasn't sure about your carronade design before, but seeing them on deck I'm convinced. The pin rail, with cut hoses for belaying pins is great. Was hoping to put something similar on my own Snake, but the scale seems just too small. The new swivel guns are brilliant. Would you be kind enough to show a full break down? I'm sure if you isolate it in a new thread it'll get indexed as well. If I have to take issue with anything on her so far, I find your channels may be a bit short. IMHO they should extend a litter farther away from the hull, so that your shrouds lean at a shallower angle. If everyone in in your head over the color scheme, might I suggest a simple stripe? A solid color, one plate thick, just above the gun line or near the top of the rail would break up the feild of white with out ruining it and still provide that hint of detail which would show off the hull's sheer. Thanks for sharing!
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#28 Mr. Townsend

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 02:30 AM

View PostCaptain Becker, on 19 November 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

So far it looks magnificent! But way too white into my taste, makes my eyes hurt and makes its almoust impossible to spot any details. Keep it up, Shes becoming a real beaty!

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View PostFrank Brick Wright, on 19 November 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

I understand the choice of white as being a common colour, but I guess it is just too much white. On the stern we would probably expect some details in other colours as well but I think that it will look even more weird if you change all the whiteness just there - I would keep if that way (perhaps only a black lamp would be better).

As you said yourself the stern still needs some improvements. I actually like the windows as they are. I can however suggest you a precious piece here which I have recently found. Posted Image This little wedge can build a fantastic transition in the top of the galleries where currently you have the cheese and the red plates.

The bow also looks very nice, though probably the anchors are a bit too rectilineal.

Keep up the good work!!

That piece does look like a good choice to cover that hole and I'll look into purchasing some. The stern I plan on making in white with red accents on it.  I think a small blast of red there will accent the ship well.  
As for the anchors I simply haven't bent the flex tube yet.  :grin:

View Postkurigan, on 19 November 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

Wow, she is looking great. I'm a little surprised by the level of detail you've managed to include. Expect a lot of your methods to be copied in the future, even by my self. I wasn't sure about your carronade design before, but seeing them on deck I'm convinced. The pin rail, with cut hoses for belaying pins is great. Was hoping to put something similar on my own Snake, but the scale seems just too small. The new swivel guns are brilliant. Would you be kind enough to show a full break down? I'm sure if you isolate it in a new thread it'll get indexed as well. If I have to take issue with anything on her so far, I find your channels may be a bit short. IMHO they should extend a litter farther away from the hull, so that your shrouds lean at a shallower angle. If everyone in in your head over the color scheme, might I suggest a simple stripe? A solid color, one plate thick, just above the gun line or near the top of the rail would break up the feild of white with out ruining it and still provide that hint of detail which would show off the hull's sheer. Thanks for sharing!

I really want to pack as much detail into this ship as I possibly can and I'm very proud of the attention I've put into those little details.  I'm glad you like how the carronades look as I'm very proud of this design. The swivel is another that I'm especially proud of.  My main goal with the swivel was for the barrel to be smaller then the deck guns but larger then rifles, and a Technic pin and bar was the perfect combination.  I'll make another thread for it perhaps when I receive my black box wrenches and include a full breakdown.  I'll also try to do a breakdown for the carronade when I can.  
The pinrails are another detail I quite like. Originally I thought of using black lightsaber hilts but they where much to big.  The flex tubes where just a perfect fit there and one of my themes for this ship has been abusing flex tubes.  :tongue: I'll also look into the channels. Extending them farther away from the hull may allow me to include the chains below them.  
As for the color I plan on making the stern contain her color and think it will be very eye catching.  I also have something down the pipeline that will satisfy everyone's taste for color. I think the white will just have to be accepted on this one.  :wink:

Edited by Mr. Townsend, 25 November 2012 - 12:17 AM.


#29 Mr. Townsend

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:43 AM

The Matterhorn is scheduled for a major overhaul in the near future. Before I start rigging I want to update the Matterhorn with knowledge gained while building this ship and the Godwin-Austin, and the new techniques that have come out, mainly next-gen bow and stern.
The ship has been reworked from the "keel" up.  She is now a 24 gun frigate based off the Porcupine class warship build 1776. She will feature twenty-four long guns, eight carronades, and twelve swivel gun. The quarterdeck and forecastle are also no longer connected by the gangways.
My main goals with this remodel are firstly to increase the overall accuracy of the model and secondly to increase the strength of the weather deck and hull above the prefabs.  


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The deck is still removable, though the main and fore masts are now connected directly to the the keel for stability. This being made possible by the snot design of the the channels which can be easily detached with rigging in place. The gundeck can still be removed in small sections to allow viewing of the hold.

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#30 Captain Becker

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:28 PM

Holy Father of Legos! That looks incredible! I like especially the captains cabin, though it could use some more decorations from the back dont you think? Though I like that its nice and clean and very simple, but its still a bit lame.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:33 PM

Well done, the quality of the render is very good too, keep it up



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 04:25 PM

Visually stunning ship! Especially love the cabin.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 09:45 PM

Now this is fantastic :classic: I can't open the lxf file because I'm on a mac, do we get to have a picture of the stern please? :grin:

I love her all the way through. A small idea which I think that can be interesting is this (I'm think about using it on my ship though): if the walls near the captain's cabin (covering the last two guns) are irrelevant to the structure, which is hard to say from the pictures, you could make them modular so that the ship could assume "fighting position", since those walls were usually removed to clear the deck :classic:

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#34 Mr. Townsend

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:08 AM

View PostCaptain Becker, on 17 May 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

Holy Father of Legos! That looks incredible! I like especially the captains cabin, though it could use some more decorations from the back dont you think? Though I like that its nice and clean and very simple, but its still a bit lame.

Captain Becker

Thank you Captain Becker.  I agree with you that the stern is lacking a little luster but this is simply do to the limitations of LDD.  When it is made in brick it will include more decorations.

View PostFrank Brick Wright, on 19 May 2013 - 09:45 PM, said:

Now this is fantastic :classic: I can't open the lxf file because I'm on a mac, do we get to have a picture of the stern please? :grin:

I love her all the way through. A small idea which I think that can be interesting is this (I'm think about using it on my ship though): if the walls near the captain's cabin (covering the last two guns) are irrelevant to the structure, which is hard to say from the pictures, you could make them modular so that the ship could assume "fighting position", since those walls were usually removed to clear the deck :classic:

A picture of the stern for you! :classic:

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I do plan on having those walls removable and in the LDD they are connected to the deck by as few studs as possible.  I'm hoping to make the walls thinner and connected differently for easier removal still. I'm also hoping to have little walls for the side gallery hopefully with a sliding door.  In the second picture in my previous post you can spy a toilet there. :laugh:

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#35 Legonardo

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Posted Yesterday, 10:43 AM

jeepers that will look awesome in bricks! Not sure I like the colour scheme but other than that, this is whicked!

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#36 Frank Brick Wright

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Posted Yesterday, 09:57 PM

Thanks! I totally understand why you haven't placed many decorations in LDD, but I'd still agree with the others: adding some more colour could make the stern more interesting. If not yellow, at least some dark blue (?). Keep it up!

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