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#1 Phred

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 11:07 PM

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First off I'd like to say is that if you have any questions about this ship, please check out the MOCpages website first to if I've already discused it.  The gun deck is going to be able to have 32 guns.  The top deck should be able to have an addional 15 to 20 cannons.  The hull is 34 studs at the widest and about 140 studs long.  It's got a current crew of 120 to 135 pirates.  With masts, the ship's main mast is about 4.5 feet tall or about 1.4m tall and is 5 feet long or about 1.5m long.  Right now i'm only using bricks that i currently have and am pretty limited right now for getting new bricks just for this ship. Please feel free to give me input. Thanx.

The first pic is pretty old. I just wanted to give ppl a feel for how big it is since the frigate is currently under heavy costruction in the center portion and is in no condition to have a full view pic.
The bottom half of the masts i use technic and long brick beams.  They aren't exactly round, but they're very solid and sturdy and easy to build crows-nest platforms off of.  
The top half of the masts are just the classic pirate masts made as high as possible.

The second pic is a good view of the rear of the stern.  The gun deck is going to moved up one level to be on the same level as the captain's quarters.  I know the interior floors are red and won't be after i'm done with a major part of the center section.  I didn't think i had enough plates but later realized i did.

The third picture is a current view of my bow. I have since decided to get rid of the helicopter pieces for capstans and have since made a different capstan.  This capstan thread on eurobricks here is where the pics are for my new capstan.  I realized i could do much better than using helicopter pieces.  My brother is also very much into lego pirates.  Growing up, he choose to get Imperial guard sets while i got pirate sets.  The wolf figurehead is knawing on a skeleton with an Imperial captain's hat on as kind of joke between my brother and I.   >8-)

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 11:20 PM

What a giant.  8-o

I really would like to see some shots directly from the side.

Oh, nice dog btw.

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Posted 02 December 2006 - 12:23 AM

X-O   8-o Incredible!!!! That's massive! Also a very nice brick-built hull! So this is the infamous ship we've been hereing about from your capstan thread. Those masts are just, wow. The stern is probably one of the best I have ever seen. I like just how it looks. Rigging is also very well done. Rudder is also very big. The wheel looks cool with the other one on the other side. The wheel-to-rudder contraption is superb. Interior and all looks *y* great. This is a great ship you've made....big masts! I hope you get sails on them soon!
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Posted 02 December 2006 - 12:31 AM

That's a big ship you are building. How long are you working on it already?
Nice to see the hull made from bricks. I would love to see some pictures with a full crew.
My favorite part is the bow. That looks really awesome.

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Posted 02 December 2006 - 04:46 AM

8-o For a minute there I thought it was a floating Eldorado Fortress!

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Posted 02 December 2006 - 06:02 PM

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View PostEXO-CHAMP, on Dec 1 2006, 05:20 PM, said:

What a giant.  8-o

I really would like to see some shots directly from the side.

Oh, nice dog btw.


it's hard for my sucky camera to not take sucky pictures.  Here's the current side view as requested.  When the ship is complete, i'll post pics with a crew and all my cannon, but that might not be for a month or two. That's the Armada flagship right behind the frigate.

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Posted 02 December 2006 - 06:06 PM

Nice, but the black and blue doesn't correspond with the white and yellow in the front :( .<That's supposed to be a sad face I think.
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Posted 02 December 2006 - 06:12 PM

View PostImperialScouts, on Dec 2 2006, 07:06 PM, said:

Nice, but the black and blue doesn't correspond with the white and yellow in the front :( .<That's supposed to be a sad face I think.
Mmmm, you're right.
It would be better if the blue in the side was replaced by white.

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 03:01 AM

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 04:05 AM

View Postphred, on Dec 3 2006, 05:02 AM, said:

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Without the sails it reminds me of a bit of a modern cargo ship.


View PostImperialScouts, on Dec 3 2006, 05:06 AM, said:

Nice, but the black and blue doesn't correspond with the white and yellow in the front :( .<That's supposed to be a sad face I think.

Its supposed to be the "unhappy" smiley, this is  :'-( the sad one

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 11:38 PM

i don't even have the walls of the gun deck built yet, which is going to be white (eh pretty much :P), i'm hoping that ties in the black and blue better.  The stern and a little with the bow also needs to be reworked with the intro of blue.  i'll see how it turns out.

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 06:48 AM

What is the length of this ship?

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 05:38 PM

View PostMister Phes, on Dec 4 2006, 12:48 AM, said:

What is the length of this ship?

the hull is 140- 145 studs long and with the forward facing mast the length is about 5 ft long or 1.54 m long

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 11:15 PM

Actually 5 feet is 152.4 centimetres :-D

But aye carumba!  1.52 metres is long for a LEGO ship!  What has inspired you to make a ship this big?

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View PostMister Phes, on Dec 5 2006, 05:15 PM, said:

Actually 5 feet is 152.4 centimetres :-D

But aye carumba!  1.52 metres is long for a LEGO ship!  What has inspired you to make a ship this big?

my metric converting to stupid english standard isn't that good so  i always try to say about  :-P


My brother and i were talking about having a role playing battle between our naval vessels using evil stevies games rules or something similar.  My brother got deployed to Kuwaitt and i had a year to make something to go up against his massive fleet of about 8 - 12 non-MOC ships and another 5 - 7 imperial assorted forts
He's back home in the US now and likes the ship A LOT.  He doesn't want to dismantle all is non-MOCs to make one big ship though.

well first i was going to build as big of a MOC as possible with the hull pieces and used up most of them.  I started with the layout of the hull pices and it looked way too skinny for the length i wanted.  
After a little research on frigate sized vessels, i found that a frigate sized vessel is at least 25 and up to 40 feet wide, or about  :-D   8 to 13 meters.  
In my estimation, i usually consider each stud to be 1 foot by 1 foot; so i realized i needed a ship that has a hull that's at least 25 studs wide.  
my first hull construction was around 24 studs wide and i was pretty content with it until i realized i had quite a lot of pieces left for the bottom of the hull.  so i tore it apart and started with the bow and just made as big of a bow as possible with all my black and white 3x3 facet bricks and it came to be 30 studs wide.  And i made the Dame du Loup (err. most of it).

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View Postphred, on Dec 6 2006, 05:23 PM, said:

In my estimation, i usually consider each stud to be 1 foot by 1 foot; so i realized i needed a ship that has a hull that's at least 25 studs wide.


That's an interesting measure meant system and it seems rather plausible.
And remember folks 1 feet = 30.48 centimetres.  ;-)

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 03:08 AM

GGGRRRR!!! i hate meters!!!!
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Posted 07 December 2006 - 08:42 AM

Yes, meters are such shocking things!  They're so much more logical and easier to use than feet.  No wonder they're the international standard for the science, engineering and commerce.

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 07:07 PM

View Postbonaparte, on Dec 1 2006, 06:31 PM, said:

That's a big ship you are building. How long are you working on it already?
Nice to see the hull made from bricks. I would love to see some pictures with a full crew.
My favorite part is the bow. That looks really awesome.
Sorry I didnít answer earlier. I started construction in middle of Sept. of this year.  Once the frigate is done, Iíll show pics of the whole crew and everything; Iíve got some crew in these pics.

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A current pic as of today on me progress.  Hopefully it doesnít look like a cargo ship anymore  :-D .

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Just showing how open the ship can get.  I donít think I have any pics like this in MOCpages site though.  Also about 50% of the exterior walls (every 12 studs or so) on the bottom deck can be removed on both sides for added playability.
Iíve got only one capstan on the deck but Iíll put the other one on when I the center portion of the ship is complete.

View PostImperialScouts, on Dec 2 2006, 12:06 PM, said:

Nice, but the black and blue doesn't correspond with the white and yellow in the front :( .<That's supposed to be a sad face I think.
Iím hoping colors look better now that I have the walls of the gun deck built.  I think it looks a lot better.  Iím using blue cause Iím out of black and white; thatís also why Iíve got grey sloped bricks on the gun deck walls. (one of these years Iíll make a purchase on bricklink)

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Posted 13 December 2006 - 09:25 PM

What's that cylindrical thing under the centre of the hull?  A space vehicle wheel?

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View PostMister Phes, on Dec 13 2006, 03:25 PM, said:

What's that cylindrical thing under the centre of the hull?  A space vehicle wheel?
yes that's a space vehicle wheel :-$ .  the whole ship roles on these to make it easier to move on the floor.  I've used about 12-15 of them, i don't remember off hand.  but it works out very well with a ship this size.

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View Postphred, on Dec 13 2006, 10:31 PM, said:

yes that's a space vehicle wheel :-$ .  the whole ship roles on these to make it easier to move on the floor.
A ship on wheels   *sweet* ....
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Posted 13 December 2006 - 11:56 PM

wow... i thinnk you should convert this ship to imperial gaurds or soldiers though because the colour scheme looks to regal to be pirates even if it was captured. they would probably paint it again. if it's going to be a pirate ship you should change it to brown.
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 05:50 AM

View PostNorrington, on Dec 13 2006, 05:56 PM, said:

wow... i thinnk you should convert this ship to imperial gaurds or soldiers though because the colour scheme looks to regal to be pirates even if it was captured. they would probably paint it again. if it's going to be a pirate ship you should change it to brown.
when i started this ship i didn't have much for brown.  when i had the bow and stern pretty much done, i got the sand crawler and jaba's sail barge.  i didn't feel like mixing the reddish-brown with classic grays too much cause i wanted as little of the bley and reddish-brown as possible with this frigate.  I think i'll use dark bley and reddish-brown only with my bomb ketch (that i'm plan on building right after this one is done).

Besides, i like to think of my pirates here having some class and elegance X-D .  They're proud of there awesome vessel and take good care of it (by orders of the captain).  Then it looks more like an imperial ship to fool and more easily take over those small merchant vessels. Rather than chase everything that they get near.

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Posted 19 December 2006 - 01:32 AM

When you said your pirates had class and elegance I immediately thought of this song

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when i started this ship i didn't have much for brown.  when i had the bow and stern pretty much done, i got the sand crawler and jaba's sail barge.  i didn't feel like mixing the reddish-brown with classic grays too much cause i wanted as little of the bley and reddish-brown as possible with this frigate.  I think i'll use dark bley and reddish-brown only with my bomb ketch (that i'm plan on building right after this one is done).

Besides, i like to think of my pirates here having some class and elegance X-D .  They're proud of there awesome vessel and take good care of it (by orders of the captain).  Then it looks more like an imperial ship to fool and more easily take over those small merchant vessels. Rather than chase everything that they get near.

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