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Black Seas Barracuda vs Skull's Eye Schooner


86 replies to this topic  – Started by ukdevilz , Nov 25 2006 11:50 AM

Poll: You must choose... (191 member(s) have cast votes)

Which is better?

  1. Black Seas Barracuda (122 votes [63.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.21%

  2. Skull's Eye Schooner (71 votes [36.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.79%

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#1 ukdevilz

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 11:50 AM

I always thought when I was a boy about the two pirate ships Skull's Eye Schooner and the Black Seas Barracuda. They are both large battleships or conveyed to be anyway. However if we but these ships on broadside, who would win? and why? And the outcome, losses/ship damage etc. Your comments please… (This should be an interesting debate!)
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Posted 25 November 2006 - 12:27 PM

SES win...is much better than BSB

Reasons:

-black and white sails are betterthan red and white sails fr a pirate ship. I think pirate ships musn't be as visible as BSB because then people can see them easily.

-mobile cannons

Then SES is less visible than BSB and its cannons are more useful because they are mobiles. SES win
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Posted 25 November 2006 - 12:46 PM

Well, 4 rotating cannons always are better than 2 cannons so in a battle, if there would ever be one, the SES would have the benefit over the BSB. I however think this is quite irrelevant.

The BSB is the better and more realistic ship of the pair. It is nicely designed and the 4 cannons are "sliding" cannons which is how it supposed to be. Imagine the rotating cannons on a real pirate ship, never seen that in pictures, drawings, movies, etc. which makes it hard to believe that this mechanism was ever used.

The BSB also has the better colour scheme, I am prepared to live with the red and white sails which fit the ship rather well. Also, I happen to like the figurehead of the lady at the bow. Designwise, I consider the BSB far better than the SES. My collection however has 3x SES and only 2x BSB.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but if you would ask me, I would say the BSB is the most fancy pirate ship.
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Posted 25 November 2006 - 01:12 PM

I'm sure we've had this debate in another thread many moons ago.

Anyway...  Skulls Eye Schooner takes my vote.


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Posted 25 November 2006 - 01:12 PM

Independent from the funcionality aspects of both ships, (cannons, sails...) my opinion is just for the looks.
I don't have the SES. But I can say that when I first came out of my dark age (not long ago) the reason I started to love the pirate theme was the Black Sea Barracuda! I didn´t rest until I got one in ebay.
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Posted 25 November 2006 - 02:05 PM

I had this question awhile ago but I found an old poll with these and a few others, BSB won...

Anyway, Phes, Could you pease put a poll in ukdevilz's post, it would be of benefit to everyone. ;-)
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Posted 25 November 2006 - 08:24 PM

I like the Black Seas Barracuda more. As a Pirate Ship, obviously the SES was better... but as a ship - period - the BSB was much better in my opinion. Better designed, better looking, and easily convertible to a merchant or Imperial ship.

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Posted 25 November 2006 - 09:22 PM

View Postjamtf, on Nov 25 2006, 01:46 PM, said:

My collection however has 3x SES and only 2x BSB.

Have to correct this already after getting another 6285 BSB off eBay today. The score is therefore settled at 3-3 which is more like it!  X-D
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Posted 26 November 2006 - 03:39 AM

View Postoo7, on Nov 26 2006, 01:05 AM, said:

I had this question awhile ago but I found an old poll with these and a few others, BSB won...

What's the link to that poll?


View Postoo7, on Nov 26 2006, 01:05 AM, said:

Anyway, Phes, Could you pease put a poll in ukdevilz's post, it would be of benefit to everyone. ;-)

Just maybe I could...


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Posted 26 November 2006 - 05:32 PM

I voted Black Seas. Though I don't have SES, I think BSB looks more colorful and sorta realistic. I like it a bunch!
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Posted 26 November 2006 - 10:35 PM

i voted for the barracuda! and sad, phes is the only one who voted skull's eye schonner!
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Posted 26 November 2006 - 10:46 PM

I prefer the Black Seas Barracuda.
Why? It is easy to convert from pirate ship to imperial guards. Just change the flag and the crew.
There is something wrong with the colors of the Skull's Eye Schooner.
I don't like the green.

View PostMister Phes, on Nov 25 2006, 02:12 PM, said:

I'm sure we've had this debate in another thread many moons ago.
Anyway...  Skulls Eye Schooner takes my vote.
I wonder what your motivation is Mr. Phes.
Why do you prefer the Skulls Eye Schooner (you seem to be the only one)?

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Posted 26 November 2006 - 10:52 PM

Because it has more cannons? I prefer BSB because the ship has a nice design and more traditional to the time of imperial fleets and expeditions of that era. Also I believe the BSB is sleeker and slightly smaller than the SES, hence the amount of cannons is irrelevant because the BSB has more agility. Also how would we know the gunners? If the gunners were well trained they could counter the numerical advantage that the SES has.
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Posted 26 November 2006 - 11:04 PM

View Postukdevilz, on Nov 26 2006, 11:52 PM, said:

Because it has more cannons? I prefer BSB because the ship has a nice design and more traditional to the time of imperial fleets and expeditions of that era. Also I believe the BSB is sleeker and slightly smaller than the SES, hence the amount of cannons is irrelevant because the BSB has more agility. Also how would we know the gunners? If the gunners were well trained they could counter the numerical advantage that the SES has.
Don't they both have 4 guns?
But the guns of the SES are turnable (what I real don't like!!!).
The SES has more gunports (4 on each side).
The ships have the same amount of hull-mid-sections but the SES gives the impression to be to be a bit bigger.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 01:43 AM

View PostMister Phes, on Nov 25 2006, 10:39 PM, said:

What's the link to that poll?

There she be. :-)

View PostMister Phes, on Nov 25 2006, 10:39 PM, said:

Just maybe I could...

Ah, very nice.
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 04:39 AM

View PostNorrington, on Nov 27 2006, 09:35 AM, said:

i voted for the barracuda! and sad, phes is the only one who voted skull's eye schonner!

>:-( What's sad about that?  At the time you posted the above I hadn't even officially voted yet...

View Postoo7, on Nov 27 2006, 12:43 PM, said:

There she be. :-)
Ah, very nice.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 05:12 AM

View PostNorrington, on Nov 26 2006, 02:35 PM, said:

i voted for the barracuda! and sad, phes is the only one who voted skull's eye schonner!

View Postbonaparte, on Nov 26 2006, 02:46 PM, said:

I prefer the Black Seas Barracuda.
I wonder what your motivation is Mr. Phes.
Why do you prefer the Skulls Eye Schooner (you seem to be the only one)?
Looks like the captain is alone on this one. X-O  And what to you mean by Phes' "motivation" for boting for the SES?
I'm not voting in this poll or the other one, since I don't have any of those ships... :'-(

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 06:37 AM

View Postbonaparte, on Nov 27 2006, 09:46 AM, said:

I wonder what your motivation is Mr. Phes.
Why do you prefer the Skulls Eye Schooner (you seem to be the only one)?


I think the Skulls Eye Schooner looks nicer and the colour scheme used for the Black Seas Barracuda is somewhat of a cliche as several toy pirate ship have also used the brown, red and yellow scheme.  But what sways me from the Black Seas Barracuda are the sails - the thick red stripes look a bit dorky to me.


Anyway, I still have voted yet so someone else must have voted for the Skulls Eye Schooner...


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Posted 29 November 2006 - 08:23 PM

i think it would be a close call between the two because the BSB seems to be built more solid than the SES while the SES has a broadside of 4 cannons.  Yet i choose BSB because i like it better.  First of all it's a classic.  Yes it comes with red sails.  I've always thought of that as a freshly stolen imperial guard ship and can be easily turned into the imperial guards ship if you want them to have a bigger ship.  X-D

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 08:30 PM

I voted for the BSB, It looks more realistic. Some people say the sails aren't good, and they also say the sails from the SES do, but a smart pirate doesn't mark his ship with a big skull. It's like shouting to a big royal navy battleship: "I'm a pirate hang me!!". While the BSB looks like a merchant ship from a distance, so they can surprise their enemy when they are close...

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 07:13 AM

Apart from the sails I don't get how the Black Seas Barracuda looks anymore realistic.  Explain that one to me!

The more successful pirates near not fear advertising the fact they're pirates because they can handle themselves against those dreadfully cumbersome battleships.


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Posted 30 November 2006 - 08:42 PM

Or maybe is it that they want to cloack themselves as merchants, and not pirates to fool their prey.
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Posted 05 December 2006 - 02:30 AM

Am I the only one who agrees with Mister Phes?

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 11:07 PM

The Skulls Eye Schooner has done a lot of catching up.  At the time of writing it has 6 votes while the Black Seas Barracuda has 8, and bare in mind I still haven't casted my vote yet.


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Posted 19 December 2006 - 01:05 PM

Black seas barracuda all the way, more cannons, bigger,m and I just have to... cooler   *sweet* !



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