What do you miss from older sets?
Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:00 PM
Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:36 PM
To be honest, I don't think there's many things that can really compare to the excitement of checking out the "coolest" elements, on display in the little plastic clear openings on the box, and then gazing at both sides of the lid for all the different ideas of what you could build with this set... But I accept that those times are behind us and I think that LEGO has moved on in a very good direction - I really consider what's been coming out in the last 5 years as being some of LEGO's best ever production. Personally, I'd never swap a Cafè Corner or even a Pet Shop ( ) for any fancy old lid-covered box.
I could say I miss 9V or the Monorail, but I've already got enough of both. Plus, I really see the benefits of the PF system and am inclined to agree that it's not a bad development at all. Speaking of trains functionality, I do wish we had the endless possibilities for layout control that the 12V system presented LEGO fans with, but I realize that if this were to be implemented nowadays, the price would be astronomical. Other than that, I don't miss the disproportionate designs of old days, or the limited amount of bricks, and I must say I'm actually quite fond of the plethora of expressions which the minifig has now gained over the years. Not that I don't love the smiley face, but it's just a nice change - once again, presenting LEGO fans with endless possibilities and signaling a move in the right direction.
All in all, while I did love the sets I grew up with, I think the product that LEGO has to offer nowadays is substantially improved - so no, there's nothing I really miss that much from older sets.
Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:11 PM
At least now I can afford to buy the sets rather than just dream about owning them!
Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:20 PM
Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:21 PM
(1) Hotel Bellhop (dark red uniform with 2 suitcases), (2) Amazon Explorer (with over the shoulder bag and new toucan mould), (3) Elvis Presley Impersonator (in classic white jump suit with microphone), (4) Frog costume (lime green colour with diver flipper feet), (5) Barbershop Singer (we'd all buy 4 for a quartet), (6) Peruvian (traditional Andean costume with tan coloured panpipes) (7) Zoo Keeper (dark blue dungarees, broom and new non-Friends penguin mould), (8) Little Bo Peep (with shepherd's crook and a lamb), (9) Air Hostess (light blue uniform but hat to allow varied hair colours), (10) Prisoner (traditional orange or grey uniform with arrows, plus ball and chain), (11) Violinist (evening suit - an orchestra army-builder + bald-head piece with white hair), (12) Tourist (new white Panama Hat, brown beard & sunglasses, Hawaiian shirt & camera), (13) Australian ('Steve Irwin' olive/dark green outdoors safari suit with new koala mould), (14) Gardener (green watering can & classic style purple/orange flowers + bald-head piece with brown hair), (15) Teddy Bear costume (light brown colour - generic without any bow tie or clothes, etc), (16) Brass Band (with new instrument like a tuba/trombone to help create an orchestra)
Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:01 PM
The old ideas books were also a great way to stimulate creativity when there were limited models. Nowadays there are so many fantastic models that I guess people are happier to buy build and play than trying to assemble alternatives.
Some of the various Lego club magazines clearly replicated that in mid 80's and now we have mocpages Flickr and endless rebrick sites, that creativity is easily stimulated through alternative means, and the market for publishing a book or doing extra builds and artworks probably outweigh any potential profit. Sill nice to dream of old days!
Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:24 PM
Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:49 PM
The one thing I do miss though for MOCing is being able to buy a box of bits all in the same colour. I remember (Must have been around 1990?) being able to go into my local store and purchase a box that contained just blue, or black or whatever colour bricks I was after. OK, I know we have PAB and online nowadays, but hardly anyone except the few and far between LEGO stores have a PAB and whilst ordering online either from Shop at Home or Bricklink is good and in many ways much better, it is not the same as going down the local toy shop and picking up an actual box there and then. Also you don't seem to be able to buy boxes of 33 degree roof tiles nowadays, just the 45 degree ones and only in red, I am sure I used to be able to get them in blue when I was a kid?
Edited by Hrw-Amen, 09 April 2012 - 08:50 PM.
Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:18 PM
Printed instruction for all alternate models
Universal Technic sets [was excellent for multiple models, spare parts etc.]
Technic Supercars with gearboxes like 8880, 8466, 8448 etc.
Pneumatics [they are now reintroducing it though]
Studded beams [somehow can't like studless beams]
Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:04 PM
The small "battle packs" for every theme.
Most of all, when you could by a pack for a particular theme, i.e. Castle, with a horse, some spears, swords, etc.
I've done a lot of Mafia games over the years. Somehow, I haven't improved at all.
Scott. Great Scott, if you will.
Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:33 PM
In all seriousness, I miss baseplates (especially in smaller sets), and like everyone else, the alternate building ideas.
Edited by just2good, 09 April 2012 - 11:37 PM.
Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:10 AM
Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:10 AM
Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:38 AM
I think this is down to the fact that modern sets have a lot more detail, which means smaller pieces etc. that can mean its difficult to make something new unless you have a large number of sets to build up enough bricks to give you that flexibility.
In 'the old days' most things were pretty blocky and made from basic bricks. That lack of finesse also meant that you could fairly easily reuse the bricks from a set to make almost anything else, as the common, core parts list was smaller
Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:24 AM
Baseplates are also a point of contention. They've really disappeared from the medium sized sets, and the big ones seldom have any either. While I wish baseplates never existed (ie. baseplates with connections underneath, like a plate instead), the newer sets don't fit with the baseplated variety.
Oh, and cypress trees!
Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:05 PM
Oh, and cypress trees!
Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:05 PM
Those boxes were still there in 2002? And I thought the complete ignorance of their basic themes (city, castle, pirates, technic), too many strange new themes that were not able to sell and many very stubborn and ignorant decisions were the reason for their almost fail. I might be wrong, though.
What I miss? Somehow LEGO was discovered by investors, geeks etc a couple of years ago. Everyone started hunting minifigs, mainly from SW and other licenced themes. TLC noticed that and dang - now I can go out, spend 15€ and come home with Batman, Catwoman and a few boring pieces. A few years before I got 4 Indy, 4 HP figures for less. I think prices are not too reasonable anymore, up to a point were I feel slightly cheated and start losing interest in new sets.
What I also miss? A great space theme about exploration. I admit it's difficult to have this on the shelves with SW, but I think it can be done.
Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:10 AM
UCS does not mean 'Ultimate Collector Series', it means 'Unavoidable Cash Sucker'.
Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:34 AM
I also miss alternative models on the instructions. I have heard several reasons given as to why they're not on there, which all make sense - but it's a real shame. Those parts really get your mind going as to how else the parts can be used.
Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:50 AM
Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:41 AM
And yeah, as you said, once they lost their way with crappy new sets and themes and once their sales got significantly reduced, that almost ran them into the ground.
Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:52 PM
As a side note I was surprised to find that my Lego 8654 Scuderia Ferrari Truck from 2005 has full instructions for an alternate build of a garage with tow truck.
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