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What's Next for Old 4.5V Trains?


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Poll: What's Next for Old 4.5V Trains? (41 member(s) have cast votes)

Do people still enjoy the older 4.5V sets?

  1. Never had any... (10 votes [23.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.26%

  2. No, I sold (or am selling) mine (4 votes [9.30%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.30%

  3. Wait, I still have some in storage... but they will stay there (5 votes [11.63%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.63%

  4. Wait, I have some in storage, time to get them out again (9 votes [20.93%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.93%

  5. Yes, they are either on my layout, or on show (15 votes [34.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.88%

Did / do you upgrade the locomotives...

  1. to 12V (6 votes [13.04%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.04%

  2. to 9V / RC (10 votes [21.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

  3. to PF (16 votes [34.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.78%

  4. no; 4.5V motor is perfectly fine thanks (14 votes [30.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 30.43%

Did / do you mix and match rolling stock from different eras

  1. Yes (32 votes [78.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 78.05%

  2. No (9 votes [21.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.95%

Would you allow your older models to be exhibited

  1. At LUG type shows (27 votes [50.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. On friends layouts (19 votes [35.19%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.19%

  3. No, I want to keep them all for myself (8 votes [14.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.81%

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#1 roamingstudio

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 05:47 PM

I recently unearthed some of my older 4.5V models (xxx - 9xx era) and am struggling to know what to do with them. One idea was to create a Museum track to run the models on, kind of like a nostalgia line. However I have realized I am someone who enjoys the design and creation aspects, and have very little interest in watching them run around and around. I would therefore enjoy building the museum, and then wonder what to do next.

To this end I wanted to create a poll, and also ask for others advice. Great designers like SaveTheAggie, Frank Stengel, SteinKopf, Carl Beatrix often have great layouts to show their designs on... but me... well the 7812 Observation Coach sums it up really; the track will only ever get laid for a photo shoot before I move onto another project.

Does it make sense to generate a Museum type layout for a LUG exhibition / autistic roadshow, and then store models away for probably 50 weeks of the year? This also seems a bit wasteful in today's world...

Or should I accept the inevitable and sell them - at which point should they be upgraded to a more modern audience or left with their old squeaky wheel bases? :wacko: Certainly I would welcome others feedback / discussion.

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Edited by roamingstudio, 08 April 2012 - 09:08 AM.


#2 peterab

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 01:38 AM

I'm having difficulty replying to the poll since there is no option for not upgrading the motors. The old 4.5V stuff is quite robust mechanically so I don't feel the need to change it. For many the 4.5V era is either nostalgic, or unknown, so can be interesting to see at a display. I've wanted to get mine out for our local convention and next year we will probably have the extra room for me to do so.

#3 roamingstudio

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:09 AM

View Postpeterab, on 08 April 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:

no option for not upgrading the motors.
Fixed. A small oversight. Thanks

#4 Iarnrod Raille Liath

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:51 PM

I got the push along unpowered 7710 trainset for Christmas when I was six. There were other unpowered items produced by LEGO such as set 7715 and loco 7810. Where do these come into the equation? I classed my 7710 as battery powered to begin with as it used the same track as those trains.

Although I am staunchly 12 volt I am all for supporting 4.5 volt enthusiasts in their activities.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:37 AM

i'd love to buy a 7710 and add some power functions to a motorised wagon. i'll just have to wait and see what this year brings... ;)

#6 Mr Copperhead

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:22 PM

The nostalgia line with the old 4.5 volt is actually a really cool idea!  I think you should keep them and do that.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:40 PM

I don'y have any made up anymore although I had a few back when I was a child. A rumage in the attic turned up a wooden casket over Easter and when I opened it there was a lot of blue train track, the old level crossing and signals from that era as well as some of the old 4.5V motors and some old battery boxes. Not sure if any of them are still in working order as they have been sat in that box for maybe 30 years or more. I'll have to get some of those old style batteries and give them a try. Maybe then if I can dig out some instructions or get them online I can recreate some of those old trains and get them running again on my PF tracks. (I think the old blue ones may look out of place alongside?)There were a bunch of the old red train wheels and the old hook type conections for trucks as well so maybe worth doing this for nostalgia, but it all depends of the motors are still working really.

#8 roamingstudio

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:48 PM

View PostIarnrod Raille Liath, on 10 April 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

There were other unpowered items produced by LEGO such as set 7715 and loco 7810. Where do these come into the equation?
Although I am staunchly 12 volt I am all for supporting 4.5 volt enthusiasts in their activities.
Good point. For the younger generation push along is all the rage. Even now a friends 9 year old prefers push than motor.  Staunchly 12v makes upgrading older 4.5 push along expensive if they get a red motor! Perhaps the nostalgia line needs to be completed one day

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:19 PM

View Postmikka says, on 11 April 2012 - 01:37 AM, said:

i'd love to buy a 7710 and add some power functions to a motorised wagon. i'll just have to wait and see what this year brings... ;)

I got the 7710 in 1981 (when I was just 2,5 years old), in fact it is the only set that I know the date I got it off (5th of December 1981). I have play quite a bit with it and I still like those loss very much!

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:19 AM

Over the years, I have managed to collect a few of the old bases with the red and blue magnets; including the cut out base for the engine.

Ever since I bought ideas book 7777 for my kids, I had always wanted to build a circus train similar to the one in the book.

A couple of years ago, I finally got around to completing this project.

The loco is built around a 9V motor and the cars are on the old bases.

It is always a hit with kids at train shows as they love to see the animals in the cages.

Adults enjoy watching and hearing it as it rattles around the track. At speed, the old wheels on 9V tracks sounds like  the rattle of the old steam trains; a bit of nostalgia for us grey haired folk.  :laugh:

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:02 PM

View Postmikka says, on 11 April 2012 - 01:37 AM, said:

i'd love to buy a 7710 and add some power functions to a motorised wagon. i'll just have to wait and see what this year brings... ;)
Actually I have a 7715 and upgraded it to power functions with the motor and battery in the locomotive. I've done it before the first pf trains showed up for sale with parts ordered from s@h. This is what got me into bulding train mocs as an adult...

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:51 AM

Funny this question comes up just as I grab my old 7722 Steam Locomotive from my parents house 3700 miles away. I rebuilt it and it is sitting next to my Emerald Night with 2 9V motors. In the instruction book (at the back) are directions to add a 12V motor (7865). I'm thinking it should be easy to drop a 9V in there instead, however I'd hate to loose the red wheel parts. A red 9V decorative side would be great but I know I'm dreaming. I still love the look of it though!!! I would love to see some pictures of updated 4.5's!
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:31 AM

I can't enter the poll. My first answer is 'Never had any' so the other questions make no sense but I can't leave them blank.
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