Blondie-Wan, on 07 April 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:
TC-14 Lego Promo
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:19 PM
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:30 PM
Blondie-Wan, on 07 April 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 11:01 PM
Sam892, on 07 April 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 11:25 PM
Blondie-Wan, on 07 April 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:
mutley777, on 07 April 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:
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It's obvious my argument is either being poorly communicated by myself or not being understood. I will try to lay it out. It is a promo. Since it is only available via a very narrow channel under certain circumstances for a limited time, it is by it's very nature not fair as the number of people who know about it and can take advantage of it are very likely a very slim percentage of the overall SW LEGO fanbase. I personally have zero problem with this. Some people think TLG should adhere to what their ad says and give it only to those who buy SW sets. Fair enough, though I disagree. I pointed out that in the past the bit about it needing to be SW sets was fluff and meaningless. This is a fact. An argument in favor of making it only SW purchases that centers around "fairness" is a bunk argument. It is already unfair. What is being sought is favoritism or even greater exclusivity, not fairness. I have no problem with that either, but call it what it is. True fairness would see this open for purchase by anyone and that is not what is being called for.
Arguing that "true" SW fans would wait and spend the $75 in May is insulting. Limiting it to SW purchases will not limit it to SW fans. It will exclude fans that already bought all the SW sets they plan to buy before the next wave though. Tough luck for them I guess. They should've been more hardcore fans and waited. If anyone wants this they can be a super fan and make sure they place their order 1 minute after the sale goes live. If the argument that "anyone should've known that" is really going to be valid, then I say anyone should know that they need to jump on any online sale the moment it goes live.
I'm seeing a lot of sour grapes and complaining here. I am trying to help and that somehow makes me the target for whatever this is supposed to be. I've got even more advice for anyone who really wants to be sure they get the figure but my last attempt at help met this negativity, so I guess I will keep it to myself because I don't appreciate trying to be helpful and becoming a target for people with an axe to grind.
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#107
Posted 07 April 2012 - 11:34 PM
I've been holding off on the SSD and with R2 coming out that same week am debating whether or not to make two seperate orders or one big one.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 11:58 PM
TheDarkness, on 07 April 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:
I've been holding off on the SSD and with R2 coming out that same week am debating whether or not to make two seperate orders or one big one.
If you go to a LEGO store, it'll depend on which employee rings you up.
Tyrant, on 07 April 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:
True fairness would see this open for purchase by anyone and that is not what is being called for.
Arguing that "true" SW fans would wait and spend the $75 in May is insulting. Limiting it to SW purchases will not limit it to SW fans. It will exclude fans that already bought all the SW sets they plan to buy before the next wave though. Tough luck for them I guess. They should've been more hardcore fans and waited. If anyone wants this they can be a super fan and make sure they place their order 1 minute after the sale goes live. If the argument that "anyone should've known that" is really going to be valid, then I say anyone should know that they need to jump on any online sale the moment it goes live.
There's no perfect way to make this promo work for everyone and no matter what policies LEGO put in place, you're still going to have LEGO store employees interpreting the policies differently. It's an imperfect system. You stated "True fairness would see this open for purchase by anyone". I agree this could work but only if LEGO limited this to one per order or one per address. I know LEGO has placed the "per address" limit before with Collectable Minifigures. But then that wouldn't work for families with multiple children that love LEGO Star Wars. Again, this wouldn't work for everybody. I think LEGO does a good job. Do some people miss out? Of course. There's just no system that will satisfy every fan.
Edited by Sir_Basil_Ashton, 08 April 2012 - 12:01 AM.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 01:08 AM
Tyrant, on 07 April 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:
I'm seeing a lot of sour grapes and complaining here. I am trying to help and that somehow makes me the target for whatever this is supposed to be. I've got even more advice for anyone who really wants to be sure they get the figure but my last attempt at help met this negativity, so I guess I will keep it to myself because I don't appreciate trying to be helpful and becoming a target for people with an axe to grind.
Who said anything about waiting to make your purchases? I sure did not! For those that have already commited to buying the entire line up till now, even they have the chance to get the TC-14 fig with the new UCS R2-D2. Yes, that is a expensive set but if you already have everything else there is a good chance you are what consumers call a early adopter and will want the set on release.
It sounds to me like you are the one with sour grapes as you have already bought the sets you want and don't want to have to buy more Star Wars sets. Well if that is the case then there is still the secondary market.
I'll make this very simple. Lego Star Wars Promo is for Lego Star Wars fans!
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 03:04 AM
Sir_Basil_Ashton, on 07 April 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:
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*I know that sounds cold but there is no truly fair way to do it so trying to make something that by it's nature is unfair into something fair is a waste of time and effort in my opinion.
mutley777, on 08 April 2012 - 01:08 AM, said:
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#111
Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:46 AM
They're also doing a promo for a Hulk minifig, but I have no interest in that so will leave that for those fans. I've no issue with the promo or how it's done. It's a bonus at the end of the day, and a good way for them to attract people to the store and website to discover all the new themes and sets, which may generate more sales for them. The more they sell te longer they can keep the licences going and making new sets....
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:51 AM
Tyrant, on 08 April 2012 - 03:04 AM, said:
*I know that sounds cold but there is no truly fair way to do it so trying to make something that by it's nature is unfair into something fair is a waste of time and effort in my opinion.
All I said was it was unfair the TLC had not stuck to there own term and conditions so some fans missed out. How on earth do we get to life is not fair form that!
I don't know why you have such a problem with these terms. As I said before, the promotion is great! A new amazing fig will be available to everybody on the level playing field.
If fans have bought all the sets and don't want to buy any more, the secondary market will be there for them to get their copy of the fig. We all know this to be true.
Look again at the promotion, I am fine with it as it is.

Tyrant, on 08 April 2012 - 03:04 AM, said:
I'll try this again. If someone has bought everything they intend to buy that is presently available (or that will be available on the date of the sale), why are you okay with them being excluded when they are SW fans, the people you are championing? Note, buying everything they intend on buying is not the same as buying everything that has been put out and as hard as it is to believe, some SW fans have no use for UCS R2D2.
How are they being Excluded? They have the choice to buy more sets, or not. That is a choice not exclusion and again they have the secondary market if you want the fig.
Tyrant, on 08 April 2012 - 03:04 AM, said:
This is getting off topic so if you want to continue I suggest you PM me.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 02:52 PM
Edited by Sam892, 08 April 2012 - 02:53 PM.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:57 AM
Tyrant, on 08 April 2012 - 03:04 AM, said:
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:33 AM
Brickmamba, on 09 April 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:
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#117
Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:42 PM
If you do want to argue money though, it needs to be in correlation with yearly income. A billionaire spending $100,000 on Legos is not as impressive as a guy spending $10,000 on $30,000 income, or a kid using all his Christmas money on Legos.
As for TC-14 being for the fans...no, not really. If they want us to have one they'd sell them for $4.99 instead of forcing a huge bulk purchase, likely without a sale unless you buy an older set. They are pretty much forcing people to go buy LSW sets in May to get this figure. I pat myself on the back everyday for not going down the dark road of figure collecting because it just gets more and more expensive with all the exclusive promos.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:43 PM
#119
Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:51 PM
Some people are complaining too much. It is what it is. Deal with it and enjoy that the figure is not a Chrome Ewok as some earlier rumors led us to believe.
Edited by Solscud007, 09 April 2012 - 03:02 PM.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:58 PM
I too look forward to get this little guy. It's a giveaway for customers within a special timeframe. If one does not like the shiny and rare item - one does not have to purchase anything on May, 4th.
Personally i like the clumsy protocol droids in SW. They have been sweetly designed by TLG so this little metallic friend will be a nice addition to my collection.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:15 PM
StoutFiles, on 09 April 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:
I pat myself on the back everyday for not going down the dark road of figure collecting because it just gets more and more expensive with all the exclusive promos.
I would not class myself as a figure collector as such, I have no desire to own a full collection. I just wish to own what I personally think of as cool, or a nice fig, or whatever other reason, and would like it to be a slightly less prohibitive offer than it looks likely to be.
Solscud007, on 09 April 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:
The UCS R2 is a fantastic piece and hoping that there is no delay, I will be getting that. Even the Tie Fighter is nice which I have yet to get. All you need to do is buy that and like two sand trooper sets and you can army build some sand troopers. Sell off the droids if you dont care for them.
Some of us don't quite have the budget to buy sets on a whim like this. Personally, I planned my purchases out earlier in the year, bought what I wanted when I had the money in order to do so and now wait patiently for the summer wave. The fact that a fantastic new fig is thrown into the mix, at short notice, for a brief period of time is the gripe for most here I believe.
Ki-Adi-Mundi, on 09 April 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:
I too look forward to get this little guy. It's a giveaway for customers within a special timeframe. If one does not like the shiny and rare item - one does not have to purchase anything on May, 4th.
Personally i like the clumsy protocol droids in SW. They have been sweetly designed by TLG so this little metallic friend will be a nice addition to my collection.
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#122
Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:48 PM
Edited by Sam892, 09 April 2012 - 03:49 PM.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:52 PM
legofett990, on 09 April 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:
While I can't speak for the UK and what they set as the price limit on sets for May 4-5, I dont think it will be £75. That is rather steep and I can appreciate your concern. However to call this purchase a "whim" is a bit facetious. As a SW Lego fan we all know that Lego will be doing something this year. Granted we did not know what it was until very recently. However would it have killed you to prepare for it if your financial ability is not as flexible as others?
I am fortunate that I have an understanding wife and spare funds to buy what I want. However I knew, from my experience last year, that May 4th would be coming around. I even told me new LEGO friend in NJ about it. He and his Wife collect SW LEGO and did not know about the May 4th set. They like OT not PT. So luckily they heeded my advice and are waiting for May 4th to arrive.
I think it is safe to assume that May 4th exclusives will not disappoint. You mentioned that you planned your purchases earlier in the year. Barring ridiculously great sales, could you not have waited to buy what you wanted until May 4th?
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:55 PM
Solscud007, on 09 April 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:
I am fortunate that I have an understanding wife and spare funds to buy what I want. However I knew, from my experience last year, that May 4th would be coming around. I even told me new LEGO friend in NJ about it. He and his Wife collect SW LEGO and did not know about the May 4th set. They like OT not PT. So luckily they heeded my advice and are waiting for May 4th to arrive.
I think it is safe to assume that May 4th exclusives will not disappoint. You mentioned that you planned your purchases earlier in the year. Barring ridiculously great sales, could you not have waited to buy what you wanted until May 4th?
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:09 PM
Sam892, on 09 April 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:
Secondly, I do not plan my year out based around various sales, promotions, offers and other things like others seem to do. I operate on a very tight budget and make my purchases as and when I can afford to- and unfortunately May 4th/5th this year I'm not going to be able to justify splashing £75 on a SW set I already have or dislike, whilst I could probably just about justify the purchase of a few smaller sets here and there from both SW and other themes to make up the £75. I understand that TLG cannot accommodate every taste, and no matter what they do they will leave a portion of fans feeling aggrieved and alienated. It's the same with any company, entertainment business etc. My point is I feel that TLG could have tweaked their offer slightly to accommodate a much wider variety of fans. Just my 2 cents though
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