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22 replies to this topic  – Started by Corioso , Jan 06 2012 10:14 PM

#1 Corioso

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:14 PM

Hi all!

I created the first version of my line ship, but I thought she looks like a sausage.:pirate_sad2: And I am rebuilding her now.

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Some photos of my Next version:

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While building I relied on the construction of the ship Goto Predestinatsia:

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I hope you'll help me in my attempt. :pir-classic:

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#2 IamF4u5t

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:28 PM

hey, your first version looks actually quite good, but i agree, it doesn't look like the Goto Predestinatsia as it is a ship of the line, 18th century. The overall look of your version looks rather like a barque, though it has 2 cannon decks, mostly because the stern part goes up too high and too sharp for beeing a ship of the line. but dont get me wrong, it still looks like a very cool ship, just not like what was your aim, but this often happens to me as well. you could rebuild it if you want the Goto Pr. but ey, isnt it great to create smth new? it is your ship and it looks good =) you could also consider to build another ship without disassambling, or atleast put more qualitiy pics to your flickr of this current version^^

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:57 PM

Thank you! Unfortunately I disassembled her.
It is very hard to build a real model in LEGO. I have the restriction in the quantity of pieces, the LEGO ship-base is very narrow. And in any case the ship will be very small for a minifig. I don't want to build a model. I just want to build a line ship. :pir-cry_happy: I didn't manage it last time.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:06 PM

I think they are both great, and the first version looks really good IMO. Like a galleon or something. I wish you luck and i will wait your next updates.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:08 PM

I feel like this is going to be an amazing project. :pir-classic:

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:19 PM

Yes, you made a WIP thread! I'll be following this. :excited: The first build was already amazing, she'd make a great East Indiaman.
Only thing I don't like right now is that the gunports are sunk into the side, but that's a really small complaint, keep it up!

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:10 AM

The problem with building ships of the line is that they are extremely long. Your first version looks fantastic, but to me it is a galleon. Though being high, if you see the reference pictures you placed here, you will also see that the ship is much more longer than what you are designing them. Besides giving her extra length, which can create problems because of the number of parts you have available, you can do each gun's deck lower, like 4/5 studs. This will probably help you to get the look you want, but you will probably have to neglect the inside.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:43 AM

I would also really consider to use an extra midsection to increase the length of the ship. Otherwise you will end up with a bulky ship, your first version is amazing, but too short, which causes the 'sausage' look. :pir-classic:

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 04:31 PM

This, my friend, is a WIP I'll definetly be following, your technique is one to admire!, and your first ship looked awesome! but I guess probably it lacked a little more lenght, as other already stated, still an excellent look!  :pir-sweet:
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:06 PM

Your first version looks nice, only sausage characteristic I see would be the color, I like it when Line ships are colored.

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The problem with building ships of the line is that they are extremely long.
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I think the real problem is that they are extremely wide  :pir_laugh2:
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:19 PM

I think the problem here is that the proportions he is using are not correct, thus giving the 'sausage' look. This is because he built a very high ship, comparing to both wideness and length. If you see the plans of this ship of the line and compare them with his first ship, and since he is building from the water-line, you will see that he needs extra length or less height.

But ships of the line are indeed larger than longer, when comparing to normal ships, my apologies Posted Image


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Posted 08 January 2012 - 06:22 PM

View PostSebeus Iniwum, on 07 January 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

Your first version looks nice, only sausage characteristic I see would be the color, I like it when Line ships are colored.


I think the real problem is that they are extremely wide  :pir_laugh2:
I always encounter problems with the length. :pir_laugh2:
It is very true indeed that a ship of the line is very wide as well.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 08:47 PM

Thanks all who answers!
I have a very big update.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 08:55 PM

Looks amazing. I really like the forecastle and custom cannons. the shape is great.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 09:42 PM

Looks great! I'm really impressed with her proportions - for a prefab hull the width is just amazing. How many midsections is this? I love the old style stern balconies as well,  we don't see many of those. Is this the final colorscheme? She might look good with the blue on some models, although the current colorscheme has a great wooden feel to it. Keep it up!

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:31 PM

This is the kind of ship that really makes me want to build some custom ships of my own.  I love the overall shape of the original and I also like what you are doing with the new one.  The stern is really cool too.   :pir-classic:

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 09:45 AM

The first one looks very good, i love brown ships :pir-wub: , the second one looks to bulky in the beginning / front IMO.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 08:08 PM

The first one dont like a sausage, the first one is really, really nicePosted Image

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:14 PM

I have a little update here:

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:24 AM

To be honest, this is a great ship and her completion should be pursued. I will be following this and hope to see more ships from you in the future. :jollyroger:
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:09 AM

Nice! Your cannons are nice, and the headrails are perfect so far. Also, the broadside looks excellent. Does she have an interior?
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:49 PM

Great ship! Looks to be inspired a bit by the Soleil Royal.
The colourscheme looks very realistic and I also like the golden ornaments.
Are you planning to make custom rigging or use the brown LEGO pieces?
I think custom rigging would do this ship much more justice.
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#23 Corioso

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 09:40 PM

Sorry, that I haven’t answered for such a long time.

View PostAdmiral Croissant, on 24 April 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

Great ship! Looks to be inspired a bit by the Soleil Royal.
The colourscheme looks very realistic and I also like the golden ornaments.

Thanks!

View PostAdmiral Croissant, on 24 April 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

Great ship! Looks to be inspired a bit by the Soleil Royal.
The colourscheme looks very realistic and I also like the golden ornaments.
Are you planning to make custom rigging or use the brown LEGO pieces?
I think custom rigging would do this ship much more justice.

I think it would be good. I shall do it in future. But I have no skill yet. :pir-look:




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