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37 replies to this topic  – Started by El Bucanero , Sep 10 2006 10:45 AM

Poll: Painted hull pieces (19 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you like it?

  1. yes! (15 votes [78.95%])

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  2. no! (4 votes [21.05%])

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#1 El Bucanero

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 10:45 AM

As most of you know by now, TLC didn't gave us a wide choice of colours for hull pieces, so maybe painting is a solution, some examples:
This
And this
I am a big fan of this man's MOCs and his paint job looks very good, How do you feel about painting big pieces like these? I personally think it is okay to do, the only problem to me is that this could stay forever. If you vote, please say why you voted this.

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#2 Mister Phes

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 10:54 AM

Egad!  Its the large pictures again only this time I'm using a computer with a 33K modem.  Its going to take all night to download these images!

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 11:16 AM

that is strange, they don't look big on my screen. I noticed that they were big when i tried to post them in this thread, and what does egad means??

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 11:22 AM

I think "egad"  derived from "Oh my God",  as some folks are religuous the latter is too blasphemous to be uttered by them.  Well that's my theory anyway.

View PostMr Tiber, on Sep 10 2006, 09:16 PM, said:

that is strange, they don't look big on my screen. I noticed that they were big when i tried to post them in this thread.

When you viewed them on your screen was the image at 100% scale?  Sometimes programs (like Windows Picture and Fax Viewer) automatically scales the image so it fix within the screen without telling you. However if you click the 4th button from the left the true size of the picture will be revealed.

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 12:19 PM

Ah I remember seeing at the models and collectibles fair in Melbourne once a few lego ships that had been very painstakingly painted.
Excellent peices of work.
I would think that this is not such a bad idea for permanent display ships.

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 12:44 PM

But Mr Phes, what I would like to know is: can you see the pics or not?? and what do you think about painting hull pieces??

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 01:09 PM

I can see them however the gamma on this monitor is very low so the images look too dark.  I'll have to wait till I get home to give a proper assessment.

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 01:10 PM

Ah right, but how do you like it??

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 01:19 PM

It looks fine to me but I can't really see what I'm looking at.  Aside from the monitor I'm also rather hungover and experiencing gastric turmoil.

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 09:33 AM

Painting is OK, but it requires additional skills that not every MOCer posseses. I don't think I'd try that - the results might be rahter pathetic... But for those who have the right skills it's a great way to customize their vessels to a completely new degree.

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 10:24 AM

Mr Tiber, I am now how and using a computer with a bigger and better monitor, not to mention a much faster Internet connection.


I'd say these pieces look alright but its fairly obvious they've been modified.  I think this is due to the surface the which is produced, particularly the white as it looks raised.  I don't think the white is paint, rather some type of tape which is evident where it overlaps on the stern of ship.

Mr Tiber, do you know anything about the process used to make these colour modifications?

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 07:20 PM

Nah I don't, maybe you are right about the tape, it looks fine to me, I wonder how painting a hull pieces completly black would look like, has anyone did that before? if so please show it to us!

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 10:54 PM

I no expert on paint but I'm thinking the best method would be to use spray paint.  If there is anyone that knows anything about painting models or maybe even painting in general then it would be very nice if you could educate us on this matter.

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 11:20 PM

I'm no expert either but spray paint is the best choice, it is easy to find in several stores (is the same paint used for metal). You can chose between glossy and matte paint, usually there are both types. It shouldn't be difficult. First you make a mask with tape of the parts you don't want to paint and then just spray on... two coats will be enough. I only see one problem, if you paint the top part of the hull (the studs), the paint will come off easy with the friction of connecting and disconnecting the pieces.

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 11:25 PM

View Postrupi, on Sep 12 2006, 09:20 AM, said:

I'm no expert either but spray paint is the best choice, it is easy to find in several stores (is the same paint used for metal). You can chose between glossy and matte paint, usually there are both types. It shouldn't be difficult. First you make a mask with tape of the parts you don't want to paint and then just spray on... two coats will be enough. I only see one problem, if you paint the top part of the hull (the studs), the paint will come off easy with the friction of connecting and disconnecting the pieces.

This is a good point Mr Rupi, but UltraLux's comment solves that problem:

View PostUltra Lux, on Sep 10 2006, 10:19 PM, said:

I would think that this is not such a bad idea for permanent display ships.


Of course that means you don't get pieces back and you'd want to build the ship right the first time to minimize knocking the paint off.

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 11:29 PM

View PostMister Phes, on Sep 12 2006, 12:25 AM, said:

View Postrupi, on Sep 12 2006, 09:20 AM, said:

I'm no expert either but spray paint is the best choice, it is easy to find in several stores (is the same paint used for metal). You can chose between glossy and matte paint, usually there are both types. It shouldn't be difficult. First you make a mask with tape of the parts you don't want to paint and then just spray on... two coats will be enough. I only see one problem, if you paint the top part of the hull (the studs), the paint will come off easy with the friction of connecting and disconnecting the pieces.

This is a good point Mr Rupi, but UltraLux's comment solves that problem:

View PostUltra Lux, on Sep 10 2006, 10:19 PM, said:

I would think that this is not such a bad idea for permanent display ships.


Of course that means you don't get pieces back and you'd want to build the ship right the first time to minimize knocking the paint off.
sorry...I didn't paid attention to that.
If that's the case painting will have no problem at all.

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 11:36 PM

My post wasn't a definite solution, rather a possibility, well a reference to a possibility since I didn't actually come up with it myself.

But for those who want to keep reusing the hull pieces your point is very pertinent!  I suppose one option would be to repaint the hull painted pieces missing paint.

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 06:17 PM

I believe there are products to let paint release, painting hull pieces wouldn't be such a problem if you have some of that...

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 11:27 PM

Well, I think it is OK to paint lego.
I do it myself with my airbrush.
It is important for me that you can't really notice that something has been painted however :-)
So it should be done really well.

All these chrome helmets have been painted because the black ones are much cheaper on BL:
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Posted 13 September 2006 - 06:39 AM

View Postbonaparte, on Sep 13 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

I do it myself with my airbrush.

Do you have any advice on using an airbrush?

View Postbonaparte, on Sep 13 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

All these chrome helmets have been painted because the black ones are much cheaper on BL:

They look good, but do you have a close up picture of these?

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 06:34 PM

View PostMister Phes, on Sep 13 2006, 06:39 AM, said:

View Postbonaparte, on Sep 13 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

I do it myself with my airbrush.

Do you have any advice on using an airbrush?


View Postbonaparte, on Sep 13 2006, 09:27 AM, said:

All these chrome helmets have been painted because the black ones are much cheaper on BL:

They look good, but do you have a close up picture of these?

Well, here is a close up of a painted helmet:
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This is a picture of my airbrush:
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I think I could do a good job on the hull of a ship ...
If someone wants to have a white hull, just ship it to me and I will give it a try :-)

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#22 El Bucanero

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 07:06 PM

That helmet looks just like a real chrome LEGO helmet. Why are you limited to white?

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 07:11 PM

View PostMr Tiber, on Sep 13 2006, 07:06 PM, said:

That helmet looks just like a real chrome LEGO helmet. Why are you limited to white?

Well Mr. Tiber, I can do any color you would like.
Till now I only did chrome and gold on lego.
I just imagined that a white hull would be more obvious than a chrome one   ;-)

Well, it took me some time before I found the right paint to use.
But these paints from Model Master really give an excellent result.


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Posted 13 September 2006 - 10:19 PM

I think those helmets look great.
Can you tell me if the paint wears off easily, or you can handle the pieces just like original lego painted/printed pieces?

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 10:40 PM

View Postrupi, on Sep 13 2006, 10:19 PM, said:

I think those helmets look great.
Can you tell me if the paint wears off easily, or you can handle the pieces just like original lego painted/printed pieces?

Well Rupi, the paint doesn't wear off easily, as long as you give it at least 24h to dry before you touch it.
It is important however not to use to much paint!

This "eagle" (in a previous life a parrot) is another example (with gold paint):

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