Brickdoctor, on 26 September 2011 - 04:30 AM, said:
I never liked the Vong designs. They're just this side of hideous.
Kaitan, on 27 September 2011 - 08:23 PM, said:
P.S. Splitting the forum to Canon And Fanon wouldn't work - Define Canon? Everything that appears in the films/TV series? What about the EU (officially sanctioned) novels?
Too much trouble for no good reason.
StoutFiles is usually the one to get at this, but I'll throw in my two cents. Canon in the Star Wars universe has
been defined - it's just that most use the term too loosely.
"The database does indeed have a canon field for each individual entry and for sources, though the canon level of the entry would override the canon level of the source since it factors in other sources associated with that entry. When determining canon levels for individual entries, anything in the films and from George Lucas (including unpublished internal notes that we might receive from him or from the film production department) is considered "G" canon. "T" canon comprises the theatrical release of The Clone Wars and The Clone Wars television series. The planned live-action television series would also likely fall under "T" canon.
Next we have what we call continuity "C" canon which is pretty much everything else from the EU. There is a secondary "S" continuity classification used for older published materials created when there was less attention to making everything in the EU fit with everything else in the EU. But, if it is referenced in something else it becomes "C". Similarly, any "C" canon entry that makes it into the films can become "G" canon.
Lastly there is non-continuity "N" which we rarely use except in the case of a blatant contradiction. Any contradictions that arise are dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
"G" canon and "T" canon comprise George Lucas's vision of the Star Wars universe.
"C" canon and "S" canon comprise the vision of the Star Wars universe held by Lucas Licensing that goes beyond George Lucas's vision. This material is collectively referred to as the Expanded Universe.
The Holocron's canon system does not take into account any of the 3rd-Pillar fan-generated material. This material is not represented in the Holocron unless it gets canonized as "T," "S," or "C" canon by an official source. The 501st Legion, R2-KT, What's the Story, etc. are just some examples."
Full post here
What's a little sad from an MOCer's perspective is that many things intended by the people who built the studio models (such as ship lengths) are considered N-canon, meaning that a random number some guy working for DK thought up and stuck in a book is considered more 'canonically' accurate than the scale of the actual filming model.
Praiter Yed, on 27 September 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:
Interesting, Ralph McQuarrie worked on concept designs for Buck Rogers in the 25th Century and it's a rumoured that the Snowspeeder design was inspired by/based on his designs for the 'Buck Rogers's' star fighters (which were also the initial designs for the original Battlestar Galactica's Vipers). A lot of mid - late 70's sci-fi shared a common aesthetic, that of ships looking functional and used. Star Wars is often credited as being the first sci-fi using this look but it is not (Space 1999 anyone?). However, this style has
always until recently been the SW 'style' even the PT which is set during a more prosperous 'golden age' reflects this aesthetic.
For me this has always been the way I judge a fanon creation - if it looks functional and 'lived in' then it's more than likely acceptable as a 'SW style creation'. But to make a sweeping statement; I generally feel that fanon creations should go in the sci-fi forum. I'm reluctant to comment on anything fanon, apart from to say 'that's a really good creation' or 'I don't think this is very well built' - how are you supposed to judge it when you can't compare it to an existing SW object?
What's funny is that there actually exists a ship in the Star Wars canon, the Incom I-7 Howlrunner, that resembles the Earth Directorate starfighter from Buck Rogers:
I feel the same way regarding feedback to fanon creations, which is why I rarely comment on them.