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#1 Lasse D

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 08:38 PM

FAW Jiefand 6x2 from Post #8

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Evolution of coupling mechanisms from Post #19

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40ft container trailer from Post #32

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FAW Jiefang simple version from Post #35

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Container crane from Post #36

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FAW Jiefang simple and robust version from Post #45

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Scania R340 4x2 Highline from Post #60

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20ft container trailer from Post #127

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20ft container from Post #131

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Scania R-series Topline from Post #174

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Updating the Scania R-series 4x2 Highline from Post #183

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MAN TGS 8x4 Cement Mixer from Post #183

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Volvo FM 8x2 Container Transport from Post #233

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For every creation I present there are a lot of ideas that never get shown. I will use this thread to show my latest WIPs, ideas and prototypes of Model Team creations, which typically means trucks with Power Functions.

Feel free to chime in with comments, ideas and critique.

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#2 dikkie klijn

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 09:14 PM

Eh... A dark red truck with lime green details?
My first guess would be some sort of MAN.

Looking good so far  :thumbup:.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:43 AM

I am going to guess some type of Scania truck?  Are the rims for the truck custom painted?  because they look really cool with the trucks color scheme.
Looks amazing so far!

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:01 AM

It kind of looks like the one below  :laugh:   -- is it an American Freightliner?  

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 07:31 AM

So far so good! Love the mudgurads!

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:16 PM

Iveco ? :classic:
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#7 AndroTech

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:29 PM

Based from the lights, I would say it's a DAF.
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#8 Lasse D

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:38 PM

Content of first post by me

Right now I'm building a 6x2 truck. The steering motor controls additional functions. When the steering is locked to one side, the power is transferred to the coupling, but I have added an additional function. The middle wheels lift when the coupling is disengaged, but I'm not yet satisfied with it. There is not enough power to lift it properly. Besides, steering normally will make the wheels move too. There is an additional problem that the frame isn't stable and bends upwards a little. I'm sure I will find a solution eventually, but this is the progress I have so far.

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No right guesses yet. Hint: I only build one truck of each maker. Here is my current collection.

I might have found a solution to one of the problems. I will try it out tonight and perhaps make renderers of the mechanisms for you guys to see (if I get the time).

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#9 AndroTech

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:42 PM

My second gues is MB Actros, or should I say, New Actros?
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#10 Lasse D

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:21 PM

Actually. I have built an Actros, but it has not been revealed here yet.

Now to the mechanism.
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Power is transferred by the diff from the M-motor. The red route controls the coupling, while the green uses the pink handle to lift the middle pair of wheels. For the green line I'm relying on the clutch toward the motor has more friction than the one toward the rear. Unfortunately the system is limited by the red route which only allows for about 20 degrees of rotation, which is too little to run the green line. I'm looking at an alternate way that only uses the red line with some different clutches, but feel free to present your own ideas :)

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#11 Alasdair Ryan

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 05:08 PM

A gear box would be best i think you could make a 3 funtion one: lift axles,unhitching,stearing/drive.

Have you tryed the other clutch gears?

now you said you are having trubble with the grean line what about gearing it up or somehow making more friction by some kind of weight? then gearing it up or down
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#12 Lasse D

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:41 PM

Yes. The M motor powers all 3 functions without any gearbox or external shifter.

I have just built a new version where the red part is geared down by 3, the coupling uses a clutch and the middle wheels are lifted without clutch. The green part is stationary and it seems to work! I had to do some voodoo tricks in order to make the coupling work, but it's all legal. I expect to post pictures once it's light again (I have to use a very old camera since my new one broke down).
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:40 AM

Great work Lasse, i really like your engineering ideas

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 01:41 PM

Thanks. I'm all about those mechanical details in as little space as possible.

 timr, on 03 August 2011 - 12:43 AM, said:

I am going to guess some type of Scania truck?  Are the rims for the truck custom painted?  because they look really cool with the trucks color scheme.
Looks amazing so far!

tim
Forgot this comment. The rims are from the two large republic gunships that LEGO has released. The front wheels are from the old one which used the rims made for Model Team, while a thin tire separates the rear wheels which are mounted on the new rims which aren't made for Model Team tires.
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Now back to the new unknown truck. I have updated the mechanism as mentioned:
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YELLOW: Steering. When the steering blocks, the power is transferred to the rest (red).
RED: Geared down by 3 compared to last time. The clutch mechanism has moved to the coupling itself so the green mechanism can move even when the red is blocked.
GREEN: New mechanism to lift the middle axle. The added torque and angle of movement makes this part work, finally!

And for those who still want to guess what I'm building, I have a little more of the front now.
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Now I have to find a smart way of making the battery box easy to replace once the cab is built. I have made a very simple way of doing this with my cement truck, which I can show later.

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#15 Alasdair Ryan

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 02:08 PM

Its a renault. :laugh:

It looks great,i must try my hand at building a 'model team truck' some time.:classic:

Looking at the setup i guess the lifting and lowering of the second axle works by the conecting of the trailer.?

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 05:15 PM

But he already built a Renault.  :wink:

Nice work so far Lasse. The coupling mechanism reminds me of the coupling in 8872, although this looks (and from the pics I think it works) different.

It's multifunctionomical.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 05:42 PM

ah opps :blush:
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:04 PM

And why can't he build a new one ?

I find your creations beautiful and very ingenious, Lasse D !
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Posted 07 August 2011 - 01:12 AM

Thank you. It is my own rule that I will only build one truck of every maker in order to ensure variety. This particular truck, however, will be made in two versions: The one I'm working on now and a simple version that is much tougher and easy to build using instructions.

 Richie, on 05 August 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

But he already built a Renault.  :wink:

Nice work so far Lasse. The coupling mechanism reminds me of the coupling in 8872, although this looks (and from the pics I think it works) different.
Good call Richie. 8872 was the truck that led me to improve the coupling system over time.

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Back before 2003 I used the simple turntable from 5580 and 5590 as the fifth wheel. The police truck from back then took it a step further and allowed an x-axle from the trailer to turn the truck. This was "Type 1":
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My "Mini truck" back then did not allow for steering from the trailer.
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Type 2 was a system inspired by 8872 which allowed for automatic coupling that locked. It was a simple system where an x-axle would go into the tilting clutch. This system was compatible with the old one, but not easy to use. This was in 2003.
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I quickly got tired of the difficulty of using this system because of the precision required. System 3 allowed for a larger knob on the trailer and was thus much easier to use. This system still used a tilting part on the truck and pretty much a copy of what you see on 8872. I used this system from 2003 to until 2009.
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In 2008 I changed to coupling system type 4 which is the one I use today. It allows for an even larger knob (2x2 round brick) and is more reliable than previous version by simply having a latch. Here is the Mini truck from 2009:
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The police truck is now my Scania which uses a compatible variant of the same system.
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And a bonus. The youtube video showing system 4 in action:


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Posted 09 August 2011 - 09:59 AM

And back to the FAW Jiefang. I have now completed the first iteration of the truck. Now it's time to see how it hold up and where to improve it before ordering the missing parts (dark red cheese).

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It is supposed to be a container transport, so I have to build a 40ft. trailer for it.

I already have a small trailer for a 20ft. container: (Click the picture for instructions)
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The leg of this trailer is manually operated.

The 40ft. trailer should have an automatic leg where the leg goes down when the rear bumper is pushed. In other words. It's ideas time!

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 01:07 PM

May i ask what you use for your windscreen?(on your new truck)

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#22 Lasse D

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 01:12 PM

 Alasdair Ryan, on 09 August 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

May i ask what you use for your windscreen?(on your new truck)
The one from the UCS Imperial Shuttle and Grand Emporium. It is a re-release of the 12x2x4 windscreen from the later Model Team models such as Black Cat.
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Posted 09 August 2011 - 05:00 PM

Very impressive, Lasse.

Is the truck a Sino? Are you going to make the trailer extendable, or a fixed length?

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 05:18 PM

 Ricecracker, on 09 August 2011 - 05:00 PM, said:

Very impressive, Lasse.

Is the truck a Sino?

Hino? which is owned by toyota :sweet: (which makes them very reliable) any way back to the lego. :laugh:

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 05:25 PM

 Alasdair Ryan, on 09 August 2011 - 05:18 PM, said:

Hino? which is owned by toyota :sweet: (which makes them very reliable) any way back to the lego. :laugh:
No, I'm talking about Sino. :wink:




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