Belville Mafia: Day 2

[Shadows]

First Sammy and now my own brother.

Oh, poor chocolate faced fool of a brother! How could you make enemies so quickly? Were you on to something and they had to silence you? It didn't help that you got my husband killed for no reason, I mean, he was probably the father of my children and all, and now they're left as little bastards, er, orphans, oh, without a father or something. It's all so upsetting, I can't think straight!

And what of this lover ... clearly not the term he would use for his wife, nor do I imagine he was in that position for no reason, so I have to imagine he was waiting for *gasp* another man, and the killer mockingly calling him baby ... it's all too much to try to take in.

Dragina, I hope you know I'm here for you, just as I know you're here for me in this time of loss. I hope we can comfort each other with kind words and candlelight and pie. Lots of pie. I could really go for your pie right now, though if it's too soon, I understand ...

In the meantime, we need to consider everything that happened yesterday and figure out who would be most likely to target Henry and bring them to justice. I'm sure in all of that there should be some useful lead to follow. I also hope people were actively looking for information last night and maybe someone can figure out a way to help us see the answer.

I need pie now.

[iamded]

nor do I imagine he was in that position for no reason, so I have to imagine he was waiting for *gasp* another man, and the killer mockingly calling him baby ... it's all too much to try to take in.

Careful now, don't want to invoke the wrath of god...

10. There are no clues in the pictures. Any attempt at using them as such will result in instant death of your character, no warnings, no exceptions, no second chances.

[Quarryman]

Mod note: To everyone that's been referring to what you can see in the pictures or what I wrote as accompanying text to the pictures: Stop it. (and that black object on the bed is supposed to be a black rubber cock, so the gender of the person Henry was waiting for is completely unknown and you shouldn't try to speculate on it. (heck, I don't know who he was waiting for either ))

The only thing the pictures are telling you is that Henry was killed last Night, no more, no less. (Hopefully it's telling you this in a slightly immature and humorous way though). Then I declared Henry as Loyal, and that's all you're going to get.

[Fugazi]

As for my silence during the lynching--I simply fell asleep (and slept in). I guess my lassitude spared me from making a bad mistake in lynching Sammy.

You were lucky for that. Although at this point I wouldn't want to be associated with those who knew that Sammy was Loyal. It's a good thing that you have an excuse for missing out on the vote.

I was thinking the same thing, but I was wondering if that counted as a "clue in the picture" was a diction choice by our just-as-in-the-dark-as-we father. If it is indeed a helpful slip-o'-the-tongue, than it would only mean she wasn't the killer, and would not mean that she isn't scum (to clarify what you said.)

Well I would say that a spoken clue is different from a pictorial clue -- but what do I know. And I agree that it doesn't clear Dragana from being Not Loyal.

Fuchsia on the other hand, seems like a trustworthy member of this family to me. I haven't noticed anything off in her comments, and she seems to just be trying to help. It would sure help if we could chat in private, but alas that is not possible here. Hopefully we can get somewhere today.

I appreciate the thought. We need to work the best out of the situation despite the constraints.

And what of this lover ... clearly not the term he would use for his wife, (snip)

You may have a point Irena, in which case we're no closer to finding who Henry's killer is.

What also troubles me is that in the absence of private communication we have no idea whether Henry and Sammy had important roles in this family. Let's hope that we were lucky and the Not Loyal didn't manage to eliminate any of the people who could have helped us the most in solving this unfortunate situation.

[Quarryman]

Well I would say that a spoken clue is different from a pictorial clue -- but what do I know.

No.

And just to be crystal clear about this I've updated the rule, so now it says:

10. There are no clues in the pictures or the text accompanying them. Any attempt at using them as such will result in instant death of your character, no warnings, no exceptions, no second chances. The only clues you'll get in the opening post for the Day is whether a person who was killed (either during the Night or convicted the previous Day) was Loyal or Not Loyal.

You are not going to get clues from me people, so just stop looking for them already, they are not there.

[Tamamono]

Hmm. You're probably not, but that's not why I said what I did. It's more because of the things like this (the first part ) and this.

Yes, going back over what was said yesterday, Fuchsia's behavior seems like that of a townie.

What also troubles me is that in the absence of private communication we have no idea whether Henry and Sammy had important roles in this family. Let's hope that we were lucky and the Not Loyal didn't manage to eliminate any of the people who could have helped us the most in solving this unfortunate situation.

You're right about that. We might have lost the investigator, or even the protector last night.

[CorneliusMurdock]

[You are not going to get clues from me people, so just stop looking for them already, they are not there.

Darn. I shall have to stop looking for the mysterious person in the electrical tape suit. And it was the best lead we had.

Seriously, though, we need to make progress today. Our family is not large enough that we can afford to lose many loyal members. If we are not very careful, we will be overwhelmed fairly quickly.

I suggest everyone look back over what was said yesterday in the light of what we know today and share their theories as soon as possible. The more we can discuss the vote the better off we'll be. That said, I will go follow my own advice now.

[Peanuts]

Thinking about it, we know of all those, who voted for Sammy, why they did so, but we should also have a look on those who didn't vote.

-I myelf was going to vote for him, but I came too late.

-Same thing with Daniel.

-Irena stated yesterday she wanted to avoid a vote on day one, as it would most likely kill a townie.

-Amy said she believed his father to be town, but at the same time she agreed he acted suspiciously.

Just Dragana hasn't even mentioned Sammy today and yesterday she just talked about his receptionist. I'd really like to hear why she didn't vote.

Going on with the list:

-Richelle still is rather silent. Yesterday she has only spoken up to defend herself, while she today only talked once, with no real point in it.

She also was the last one to vote with the reson of gaining evidence from the conviction.

-Rupert has spoken quite often in the meantime, explain his former absence with being busy. Doesn't mean he can't be scum, but I wouldn't say we have anaything against him.

-Irena has also spoken more often now. But am I the only one to find it fishy that she didn't want a conviction yesterday?

-Dragana has today spoken up once, this time not completely chit-chatty.

-Amy seems like she felt very sure her father was loyal, although she admits he acted scummy. Also she wants my Dad to be on the list, just because he voted second. She apperantly is convinced Fuchsia is loyal, which may be because of herself missing on the list, as Rupert and Tammo have pointed out.

-Also me or Tammo might look suspect, as we both had been accused by Henry. Yet I don't believe Tammo would have killed him, for the sme reason I wouldn't have done so.

-Fuchsia might be suspect as well, if she works together with Amyand forgot her on purpose. She has been talking fairly rarely, but at least she has got us a list with some suspects. Which really bugs me is her voting statement:

She thought Sammy to be suspect, because he based his voted on the list, which she considered not to be real evidence. She also criticized Sammy's suggestion of investigating the ones on the list, which I believe is a good idea, as those are our main suspects. Yet all we had back then were the ones who had been quite, and if Sammy wouldn't have drawn suspicion on him and nothing else came up, I would also have voted for someone on the list. At the same time Fuchsia also states that a conviction has to be done, although she's not convinced of the evidence against Sammy, which is contradictionary in my eyes.

What do you think?

[CorneliusMurdock]

I haven't finished analysing yesterday myself (if only I could get the time), but I agree with a lot of your points, my little angel.

Irena does ring some alarm bells with her first-day-voting stance.

What's going on between Amy and Fuchsia is somewhat fishy as well.

And Richelle is still being Richelle...

[Tamamono]

-Richelle still is rather silent. Yesterday she has only spoken up to defend herself, while she today only talked once, with no real point in it.

She also was the last one to vote with the reson of gaining evidence from the conviction.

Yeah, Richelle has been pretty silent today, and she was pretty silent yesterday as well. When Sammy accused her of being scum because of this silence, she claimed that she has nothing to add. This may very well be true, but we should still keep in mind the possibility of her being scum.

-Irena has also spoken more often now. But am I the only one to find it fishy that she didn't want a conviction yesterday?

Well, it would be a lot more 'fishy' if Sammy had turned out to be scum, but yes, it is pretty strange.

-Amy seems like she felt very sure her father was loyal, although she admits he acted scummy. Also she wants my Dad to be on the list, just because he voted second. She apperantly is convinced Fuchsia is loyal, which may be because of herself missing on the list, as Rupert and Tammo have pointed out.

Amy's trust in Fuchsia seems to be placed without much reason. It's almost like they might be communicating privately...

[Fugazi]

-Fuchsia might be suspect as well, if she works together with Amyand forgot her on purpose. She has been talking fairly rarely, but at least she has got us a list with some suspects. Which really bugs me is her voting statement:

She thought Sammy to be suspect, because he based his voted on the list, which she considered not to be real evidence. She also criticized Sammy's suggestion of investigating the ones on the list, which I believe is a good idea, as those are our main suspects. Yet all we had back then were the ones who had been quite, and if Sammy wouldn't have drawn suspicion on him and nothing else came up, I would also have voted for someone on the list. At the same time Fuchsia also states that a conviction has to be done, although she's not convinced of the evidence against Sammy, which is contradictionary in my eyes.

You don't understand. I didn't vote for Sammy merely because he used my list, or that he suggested someone investigate the people on that list. I voted for Sammy because instead of being reasonably wary of my list like everyone else, he seemed to believe it unresevedly, voted right away and also suggested to investigate all of the people on that list -- to make sure that our investigator would be busy for the next three nights. I had the feeling that Sammy knew that my list was useless and wanted us to focus on it so that the real scum would be unhindered. What was it that doesn't make sense?

-Also me or Tammo might look suspect, as we both had been accused by Henry. Yet I don't believe Tammo would have killed him, for the sme reason I wouldn't have done so.

Which is...?

Amy's trust in Fuchsia seems to be placed without much reason. It's almost like they might be communicating privately...

If I were communicating privately with anyone, I wouldn't need to publicly state that I trust them.

[Tamamono]

Which is...?

The fact that we both argued with Henry yesterday.

If I were communicating privately with anyone, I wouldn't need to publicly state that I trust them.

Alright, I see your point there. Sorry for the confusion.

[Rufus]

You don't understand. I didn't vote for Sammy merely because he used my list, or that he suggested someone investigate the people on that list. I voted for Sammy because instead of being reasonably wary of my list like everyone else, he seemed to believe it unresevedly, voted right away and also suggested to investigate all of the people on that list -- to make sure that our investigator would be busy for the next three nights. I had the feeling that Sammy knew that my list was useless and wanted us to focus on it so that the real scum would be unhindered. What was it that doesn't make sense?

Now that we know daddy was loyal, it looks like he was merely trying to rouse us into activity, but I admit your reasoning was, well, reasonable.

If I were communicating privately with anyone, I wouldn't need to publicly state that I trust them.

It is this outspoken trust which has me uneasy. I don't know how we can trust anyone - I certainly don't trust anyone but myself. There are people who are coming out with some sound arguments, who may seem more loyal, but we know that is just how the non-loyals will try to act.

For myself, I will look again carefully at what everyone has said, but I haven't seen any obvious clues yet. Have we still no information from the night?

[Peanuts]

You don't understand. I didn't vote for Sammy merely because he used my list, or that he suggested someone investigate the people on that list. I voted for Sammy because instead of being reasonably wary of my list like everyone else, he seemed to believe it unresevedly, voted right away and also suggested to investigate all of the people on that list -- to make sure that our investigator would be busy for the next three nights. I had the feeling that Sammy knew that my list was useless and wanted us to focus on it so that the real scum would be unhindered. What was it that doesn't make sense?

okay, now I get it. I agree that's a reasonable theory. It just sounded weird the way you phrased it. It would really have been a good scum move to get us into investigating the silent ones.

Which is...?

The reasons why I don't think Tammo has killed Henry and wouldn't think I had killed Henry if I wasn't myself? I wrote them above.

Because Henry didn't have valid evidence against me or Tammo anyway and because I would try to avoid the attention I'd get for killing Henry if I was the scum killer.

[JimBee]

We're allowed to vote now, and I suggest we start doing so quickly. I am rather suspicious of Amy, Richelle, Dragina, and Irena. Amy because of the list situation, and the other three for being quiet/unhelpful. I would like to reach a conclusion about who to vote for today, but frankly, I'm stumped. I would like to hear more opinions on these suspicions before I vote.

[Ricecracker]

We're allowed to vote now, and I suggest we start doing so quickly. I am rather suspicious of Amy, Richelle, Dragina, and Irena. Amy because of the list situation, and the other three for being quiet/unhelpful. I would like to reach a conclusion about who to vote for today, but frankly, I'm stumped. I would like to hear more opinions on these suspicions before I vote.

Again, I understand why people are suspicious of me, but I don't think we should vote for me. Of the people you mentioned, Amy seems to be the most suspicious, because of her absence yesterday, being left off of suspicion lists, and leaving people off of her suspicion lists.

[Shadows]

I have to agree with the comments about Amy trusting Fuschia, I just can't see why anyone would have trusted anyone else on day 1, so it's a little suspicious. Is that enough for a vote? I don't know...

-Irena has also spoken more often now. But am I the only one to find it fishy that she didn't want a conviction yesterday?

Fishy that I didn't want us to randomly kill someone, expecting that in all probability it would be a loyal townie?

Oh, look, it was a loyal townie.

And my husband.

You monsters.

Let's do better today, ok?

[iamded]

Thinking about it, we know of all those, who voted for Sammy, why they did so, but we should also have a look on those who didn't vote.

-I myelf was going to vote for him, but I came too late.

-Same thing with Daniel.

-Irena stated yesterday she wanted to avoid a vote on day one, as it would most likely kill a townie.

-Amy said she believed his father to be town, but at the same time she agreed he acted suspiciously.

Just Dragana hasn't even mentioned Sammy today and yesterday she just talked about his receptionist. I'd really like to hear why she didn't vote.

Going on with the list:

-Richelle still is rather silent. Yesterday she has only spoken up to defend herself, while she today only talked once, with no real point in it.

She also was the last one to vote with the reson of gaining evidence from the conviction.

-Rupert has spoken quite often in the meantime, explain his former absence with being busy. Doesn't mean he can't be scum, but I wouldn't say we have anaything against him.

-Irena has also spoken more often now. But am I the only one to find it fishy that she didn't want a conviction yesterday?

-Dragana has today spoken up once, this time not completely chit-chatty.

-Amy seems like she felt very sure her father was loyal, although she admits he acted scummy. Also she wants my Dad to be on the list, just because he voted second. She apperantly is convinced Fuchsia is loyal, which may be because of herself missing on the list, as Rupert and Tammo have pointed out.

-Also me or Tammo might look suspect, as we both had been accused by Henry. Yet I don't believe Tammo would have killed him, for the sme reason I wouldn't have done so.

-Fuchsia might be suspect as well, if she works together with Amyand forgot her on purpose. She has been talking fairly rarely, but at least she has got us a list with some suspects. Which really bugs me is her voting statement:

She thought Sammy to be suspect, because he based his voted on the list, which she considered not to be real evidence. She also criticized Sammy's suggestion of investigating the ones on the list, which I believe is a good idea, as those are our main suspects. Yet all we had back then were the ones who had been quite, and if Sammy wouldn't have drawn suspicion on him and nothing else came up, I would also have voted for someone on the list. At the same time Fuchsia also states that a conviction has to be done, although she's not convinced of the evidence against Sammy, which is contradictionary in my eyes.

What do you think?

Amy's trust in Fuchsia seems to be placed without much reason. It's almost like they might be communicating privately...

It is this outspoken trust which has me uneasy. I don't know how we can trust anyone - I certainly don't trust anyone but myself.

Oh come on. I listed the specific things she said that made me look on her in a trusting manner. I noted them down here. I'm not saying she's a confirmed townie, just that from the way she's been behaving, she seems the towniest to me. You guys are taking my observations way too seriously. Everyone should make their own decisions about people, look at what they've said and how they've helped us.

There are people who are coming out with some sound arguments, who may seem more loyal, but we know that is just how the non-loyals will try to act.

This is true, and I've taken that into consideration. I take that into consideration with everyone I review. To catch a traitor, you must think like a traitor.

While it's true they'd be likely to blend in and go unnoticed, it's also a possibility that they could be trying to lead and control under the guise of a townie. Be alert, people.

Again, I understand why people are suspicious of me, but I don't think we should vote for me. Of the people you mentioned, Amy seems to be the most suspicious, because of her absence yesterday, being left off of suspicion lists, and leaving people off of her suspicion lists.

"I don't think we should vote for me." I don't see anyone who wouldn't think the same way. No one wants to be voted out. I'm sure daddy didn't want to be voted out either...

I've apologised for my absence yesterday, there's nothing I can do about it now other than be as active and helpful as I can, when I can. Being left off Fuchsia's quiet people list is hardly my fault. I admit I only spoke up twice yesterday morning, but their timing and substance could have been enough for Fuchsia to subconsciously leave me off the list. I don't know, I'm no mentalist...

As for leaving Jacob off my list, that was an accident, I accidentally overlooked him. I had just read through like 7 pages of notes, cut me some slack.

Wwwwoops, it seems I recited all of Petra's commentary without adding anything myself. Remember folks, preview your posts words before posting saying them.

I don't actually think I had anything to say to that. I was reviewing your statement and didn't need to add anything, but I recited it anyway. Silly me.

[Tamamono]

Oh come on. I listed the specific things she said that made me look on her in a trusting manner. I noted them down here. I'm not saying she's a confirmed townie, just that from the way she's been behaving, she seems the towniest to me. You guys are taking my observations way too seriously. Everyone should make their own decisions about people, look at what they've said and how they've helped us.

Even if you are Loyal, coming out and saying 'I think this person is good because of this, that, and the other thing' is not a good thing to do. Do you want to make it easier for the Not Loyals?

"I don't think we should vote for me." I don't see anyone who wouldn't think the same way. No one wants to be voted out. I'm sure daddy didn't want to be voted out either...

I've apologised for my absence yesterday, there's nothing I can do about it now other than be as active and helpful as I can, when I can. Being left off Fuchsia's quiet people list is hardly my fault. I admit I only spoke up twice yesterday morning, but their timing and substance could have been enough for Fuchsia to subconsciously leave me off the list. I don't know, I'm no mentalist...

As for leaving Jacob off my list, that was an accident, I accidentally overlooked him. I had just read through like 7 pages of notes, cut me some slack.

While leaving Jacob off the list may be a simple mistake on your part, one would have to be ignoring what's right in front of their face to not notice that you and Fuchsia seem to have an unprecedented connection. Just think about it: first she leaves you off the list, and then you start going off about what a 'great townie' she is. Looking back at her posts words now, her 'great townie' behavior could easily be a clever ruse.

[Fugazi]

Being left off Fuchsia's quiet people list is hardly my fault. I admit I only spoke up twice yesterday morning, but their timing and substance could have been enough for Fuchsia to subconsciously leave me off the list. I don't know, I'm no mentalist...

Actually the reason why you weren't on my list was that you had spoken twice, while Richelle and Rupert had only spoken once by that time, simple as that. Besides, it wasn't exclusively a list of quiet people, but a list of people I thought were suspicious for different reasons -- and Harry's wild accusations probably had the opposite effect on me.

[CorneliusMurdock]

Fishy that I didn't want us to randomly kill someone, expecting that in all probability it would be a loyal townie?

I don't think it was all that random, our suspicions were just wrong. As long as we have no solid information and none of the scum slip up the bare odds are that we'll lynch a townie. There are just more townies than scum, otherwise we townies would all have perished already. But neither can we sit idly by and do nothing while they pick us off at night. We have to vote for someone, making an educated guess, in the hopes that we'll catch scum. There's no other way to play this unless we want to give up and wait for death.

If you have any suggestions or ideas about who we should be looking at, Irena, it would be helpful. Help us win this thing.

I've had time to peruse my notes from yesterday and have not found any hints as to who might be scum. If nothing presents itself soon, I think we should go for someone that doesn't seem to be helping at this point. My gut feeling would be Irena.

[Dragonator]

We're allowed to vote now, and I suggest we start doing so quickly. I am rather suspicious of Amy, Richelle, Dragina, and Irena. Amy because of the list situation, and the other three for being quiet/unhelpful. I would like to reach a conclusion about who to vote for today, but frankly, I'm stumped. I would like to hear more opinions on these suspicions before I vote.

Can't say I've heard you say anything particularly noteworthy Jacob, so no need to be a hypocrite.

Since Jacob is being unappreciative of my pie, I'll do what the rest of you seem so hesitant to do and get the ball rolling. We are running out of time, and standing around repeating what everyone else has said isn't getting us anywhere. At this moment, looking over what you've all said, I tend to agree that Amy has made some irregular comments, and is a dumb child with no future anyway, so I am going to vote: Amy Spalkowa (iamded). Sorry Irena, but at least she was adopted.

Of course, feel free to suggest someone else if you have any substantive objections. I will be in the kitchen where I belong.

[Tamamono]

I've had time to peruse my notes from yesterday and have not found any hints as to who might be scum. If nothing presents itself soon, I think we should go for someone that doesn't seem to be helping at this point. My gut feeling would be Irena.

With anyone we convict there is a chance that they will turn out to be town. If we convict an active and helpful member of the family and he or she turns out to be Loyal, then we will have lost someone exceptionally valuable. However, the scum might be taking this into account and acting accordingly; we can never be too careful.

Can't say I've heard you say anything particularly noteworthy Jacob, so no need to be a hypocrite.

Since Jacob is being unappreciative of my pie, I'll do what the rest of you seem so hesitant to do and get the ball rolling. We are running out of time, and standing around repeating what everyone else has said isn't getting us anywhere. At this moment, looking over what you've all said, I tend to agree that Amy has made some irregular comments, and is a dumb child with no future anyway, so I am going to vote: Amy Spalkowa (iamded). Sorry Irena, but at least she was adopted.

Of course, feel free to suggest someone else if you have any substantive objections. I will be in the kitchen where I belong.

That's true, repeating what everyone else has said isn't helping at all. If we are to catch the Not Loyals, we have to act on our best suspicions. I suppose Amy is our best option for today, although I'm slightly more inclined to vote for Fuchsia, as my gut is telling me that she's a Not Loyal. However, if Amy turns out to be scum, then there's a pretty good chance that Fuchsia is too. I'm not going to vote just yet, but I'll be going over my notes and what was said yesterday, and I'll be back with my decision soon.

[JimBee]

Can't say I've heard you say anything particularly noteworthy Jacob, so no need to be a hypocrite.

Really? I beg to differ. At least I've tried to help and deduce what we've got to work with rather than standing around chatting about pie.

vote: Amy Spalkowa (iamded).

That's more like it. However, I'm not fully convinced of her guilt quite yet. I will go over what's been said so far one more time.

[Peanuts]

Oh come on. I listed the specific things she said that made me look on her in a trusting manner. I noted them down here. I'm not saying she's a confirmed townie, just that from the way she's been behaving, she seems the towniest to me. You guys are taking my observations way too seriously. Everyone should make their own decisions about people, look at what they've said and how they've helped us.

I had read it before, but thoses posts speeches didn't sound like a good reason to trust her. The first one is just a sarcastical comment about others disdaining the job she's doing and the second one is her voting statement, which seemed a bit flaw to me, but well.

Also, you said you would have defended Sammy if you had been there yesterday, blaming the ones who had jumped on the bandwagon. Once again, what made you think he was loyal? You admitted that he acted scummy.

Btw, I'm not sure what your opinion about my Dad is? No accusation intended, I'm really asking, 'cause I'm a bit confused. He seems to be suspect to some people.

While leaving Jacob off the list may be a simple mistake on your part, one would have to be ignoring what's right in front of their face to not notice that you and Fuchsia seem to have an unprecedented connection. Just think about it: first she leaves you off the list, and then you start going off about what a 'great townie' she is. Looking back at her posts words now, her 'great townie' behavior could easily be a clever ruse.

Once again, I'm wondering: Is there something about Dad I missed, or is it simply the fact he doesn't really talk that often?

I think you're going a bit far. It is strange Amy is so sure Fuchsia's town, and I don't really believe in Fuchsia's excuse for not taking Amy to the list, just because she talked twice that day. And I wouldn't say Fuchsia was that much of a graet townie.

Thinking about it, she just brought up three ideas how to act, of which two were both pretty helpful for the not loyals, and composed a list of four people who hadn't helped us at all till then. It was certainly of avail, but talking of her as "great townie" is a bit much, isn't it?

Can't say I've heard you say anything particularly noteworthy Jacob, so no need to be a hypocrite.

Since Jacob is being unappreciative of my pie, I'll do what the rest of you seem so hesitant to do and get the ball rolling. We are running out of time, and standing around repeating what everyone else has said isn't getting us anywhere. At this moment, looking over what you've all said, I tend to agree that Amy has made some irregular comments, and is a dumb child with no future anyway, so I am going to vote: Amy Spalkowa (iamded). Sorry Irena, but at least she was adopted.

Of course, feel free to suggest someone else if you have any substantive objections. I will be in the kitchen where I belong.

Yes, I don't think we'll gain much more today. I'm still not fully convinced of Amy's guilt, but she is our best option in my eyes.

I'll also vote: Amy Spalkowa/Iamded. Let#s hope she'll turn out to be illoyal, I'd hate to kill a townie.