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[Bricksan]

I have not heard anything in the way of sets for 2012, the only thing I have heard is the theme is only going to be in 2011 but can't confirm that 100%.

[Cammo]

Too bad... I was starting to collect LEGO again after 12 years and this was my first licensed theme ever. I guess I'll have to start collecting the original Pirates Theme. Too bad I'll end up with yellows and fleshies.

[MightyMegs]

[Cpt. Tristan]

149 pages!!! I find it funny to look at all of the first posts about speculating whether or not its going to come out. But the Black Pearl definitely is coming out, its already in a German toy store. After all, how could they not make the Black Pearl? It's a classic! German Toy Shop

[dr jones]

Cpt. Tristan, on 24 August 2011 - 10:03 PM, said:

149 pages!!! I find it funny to look at all of the first posts about speculating whether or not its going to come out. But the Black Pearl definitely is coming out, its already in a German toy store. After all, how could they not make the Black Pearl? It's a classic! German Toy Shop

Sorry to break it to you, but we kinda already knew the Pearl was coming. And we've seen pics as far back as June or so.

[Zeya]

Cpt. Tristan, on 24 August 2011 - 10:03 PM, said:

149 pages!!! I find it funny to look at all of the first posts about speculating whether or not its going to come out. But the Black Pearl definitely is coming out, its already in a German toy store. After all, how could they not make the Black Pearl? It's a classic! German Toy Shop

Hmm that link says that the set will be available on October 24th. Translation below.

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Black Pearl - Pirates of LEGO, Pirats of the Caribbean, from age 8, 840 parts, included: Jack Sparrow, Joshua Gibbs, Davy Jones, William Turner, bootstrap Bill, pirate with Hammer's head after 13 years has returned Davy Jones to bring Jack Sparrow aboard the Flying Dutchman. But Maccus, bootstrap Bill, Jack and his friends will and Joshamee give up so quickly, as they face the tentacles of their enemy's. The set contains 6 minifigures: Jack Sparrow, will Turner, Joshamee Gibbs, Davy Jones, Maccus and bootstrap Bill. Defeat Davy Jones and his crew aboard the Black Pearl! Contents: • contains the minifigures of Jack Sparrow, will Turner, Joshamee Gibbs, Davy Jones, Maccus and bootstrap Bill • which cabin of the ship is open and is the view of the internal free • with large black sailing and working cannons 9-16 years attention! Suitable for children under 3 years because small parts can be swallowed. Choking! AVAILABLE FROM 24.10.2011! Respect. Not for children under the age of three. Contains small parts that can be swallowed and long line. Choking and the risk of Strangulation!.

[Cpt. Tristan]

dr jones, on 24 August 2011 - 10:27 PM, said:

Sorry to break it to you, but we kinda already knew the Pearl was coming. And we've seen pics as far back as June or so.

lol I know, I'm just posting that for anyone who doesn't know and look at this topic and wonder if its coming. And when I was talking about the first posts, I meant like the first page, when everyone was speculating whether the actual THEME was going to be released.

[Deadna]

Personaly, I don't like the new Pirates Of The Caribbean sets because:
A: The Lego group discontinued Lego Pirates so they could make Lego Pirates Of The Caribbean
B: Look at Lego Star Wars teh Clone Wars! That should've left a ouple of months ago!
My though is CN is funding Lego so they keep making Clone Wars.
I guess my worry is that Lego won't stop makin Lego Pirates Of The Caribbean and so they won't EVER make Lego Pirates AGAIN!

[Sebeus I]

Deadna, on 25 August 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

I guess my worry is that Lego won't stop makin Lego Pirates Of The Caribbean and so they won't EVER make Lego Pirates AGAIN!

They'll stop with POTC at some point, look at Indiana Jones or Prince of Persia
Personnaly I think the Black Pearl will be the last set in the POTC line.
I'm worried that it will take a long time before there will be a new Pirate theme, a very long time you might as well say there won't be one until prooved wrong  

[Cammo]

I'm hoping for just one more wave. I would love a Tia Dalma, Cutler Beckett, Sao Feng, Cotton, Pintel & Ragetti minifigs. Don't care in which sets they arrive.  

[The_Chosen_1]

Deadna, on 25 August 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

Look at Lego Star Wars teh Clone Wars! That should've left a couple of months ago!
My though is CN is funding Lego so they keep making Clone Wars.

A bit off topic, but you're kidding right?  Star Wars is Lego's biggest seller, with The Clone Wars series having a HUGE following in the 6-14 year old boys demographic.  Lego Clone Wars isn't going away anytime soon.


I personally hope PotC will stick around for at least one more wave, but my gut feeling tells me that the Black Pearl will be the last set of the line.  It's a shame, there's still so much ground to cover.  There hasn't been a single set from At World's End.

[Weil]

The_Chosen_1, on 25 August 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

Star Wars is Lego's biggest seller

Nope, City/town is Lego's biggest global seller though Star Wars is also a highly successful theme and consistently one of the best sellers.

Deadna, on 25 August 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

I guess my worry is that Lego won't stop makin Lego Pirates Of The Caribbean and so they won't EVER make Lego Pirates AGAIN!

Sebeus Iniwum, on 25 August 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

They'll stop with POTC at some point, look at Indiana Jones or Prince of Persia
Personnaly I think the Black Pearl will be the last set in the POTC line.
I'm worried that it will take a long time before there will be a new Pirate theme, a very long time you might as well say there won't be one until prooved wrong  

I think it's more of a question of 'when' than 'if' classic pirates will return. The 4th Pirates of the Caribbean film wasn't a big success and the future of the franchise in general looks uncertain, while at the release of the film a PotC Lego theme definitely looked like a money spinner I think it's already clear it will be short lived since as far as I'm aware it already hasn't done as well as hoped and I would think its safe to say with the decline of the franchise sales can only go down from here.

Comparisons to Star Wars are pretty limited since the overall size of the PotC merchandise market is a speck compared to the size of the Star Wars merchandise market. The Indiana Jones Lego line has a much better comparison with the PotC line and look what's happened there - they discontinued the license and bought out a new unlicensed theme along same lines in the form of Pharaoh’s Quest.

Lego have quite openly said that a few years back they were getting it all wrong in trying to move away from their core product resulting in them selling off their theme parks and licensing out all the video games. They're now moving back to focusing on lego bricks and their core themes - City, Castle, Space and Pirates.

The classic pirate line made way for an opportunity they had with the PotC line but with the PotC line now on its way out (Probably either finishing with the pearl or perhaps with 1 more wave afterward) then I think its quite realistic to hope for the return of classic pirates in say 2013.

This is of course all speculative - I have no idea what lego will do really but these are my reasoned thoughts.

[Cpt. Tristan]

Deadna, on 25 August 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

Look at Lego Star Wars teh Clone Wars! That should've left a ouple of months ago!
My though is CN is funding Lego so they keep making Clone Wars.

Well the Clone Wars is even better than PotC for sales because:

1. Because its a show, they can make new episodes to inspire new sets.
2. Lego is generally marketed for kids, kids love the clone wars.
3. Star Wars has always been a big success for kids and adults, so both will want a piece of the clone wars line.
4. PotC isn't really for younger kids, so a lot of them don't even know what the sets are about.
5. CN probably is funding Lego

[The_Chosen_1]

Weil, on 26 August 2011 - 01:35 AM, said:

Nope, City/town is Lego's biggest global seller though Star Wars is also a highly successful theme and consistently one of the best sellers.

Thanks for catching me-- I was only thinking of licensed themes.

[MCNwakeboard]

Weil, on 26 August 2011 - 01:35 AM, said:

The 4th Pirates of the Caribbean film wasn't a big success and the future of the franchise in general looks uncertain, while at the release of the film a PotC Lego theme definitely looked like a money spinner I think it's already clear it will be short lived since as far as I'm aware it already hasn't done as well as hoped and I would think its safe to say with the decline of the franchise sales can only go down from here.

I think Pirates 4 actually did very well. It is number 8th on the most revenue grossing film worldwide. (I'm sure higher ticket prices help)
http://www.filmsite.org/boxoffice.html

It sounds like Pirates 5 would be in production if Depp was ready.
http://www.hollywood...d-disney-185357

I agree that we may not see more POTC sets anytime soon since it was a movie tie-in, but in my opinion the POTC have sold well. (at least better than other Disney franchise sets (Prince of Persia, Toy Story, Cars 2)
Queen Anne's Revenge was one the top sellers list for a while on Lego.com

[Weil]

MCNwakeboard, on 26 August 2011 - 03:51 AM, said:

I think Pirates 4 actually did very well. It is number 8th on the most revenue grossing film worldwide. (I'm sure higher ticket prices help)
http://www.filmsite.org/boxoffice.html

My bad, thought I'd heard otherwise. Actually looks like it is likely they'll be a 5th film in 2013 too which makes classic lego pirates future quite a bit more uncertain.  

[Lego-Freak]

I've just found a better picture of Davy Jones on the same site that brought us the last BP pics:

https://exoneit.de/d...054&kat_id=7251 (The picture can't be deeplinked due to its size)

The set itself may be a little underwhelming, but Jones certainly isn't  

[Cammo]

Thanks for sharing. Too bad it's black & white but now we have a close-up of the tentacle-beard and pincer. Still two months until the review though :P

[The_Chosen_1]

Great to see that it's not just a re-use of Blackbeard's beard piece, as was rumored some time ago.

[Israel_B]

Black Pearl just showed up for pre-order on amazon Japan. Needless to say I was all over that like I was a man back from a six month voyage and it was "pleasurable company". Ship date is Nov 1.

[buddy]

Brickset has just added a new PotC polybag set to its database, it is set no. 30133 and it is just a Jack Sparrow minifigure. Its picture is from keithkram, a Brickset member who also has a store on Bricklink where you can buy this polybag set from, link. Here is a picture of it   :



~buddy~

[Zeya]

It's very similar to the old tricorne Jack Sparrow ("Captain Jack Sparrow"). To me, it looks like the head is the same, but his torso/leg printing has a blue coat over everything (but under the belt). The older Jack minifig with a tricorne has a brown coat on. So it's as if they've just turned the old brown coat into a blue coat.   What do you guys think? Can you spot any other differences here?

[MstrOfPppts]

It's all known parts, just different placement. In sets we used to get either Jack with his hat and his brown coat on, or Jack with no hat and his blue shirt on. Then what it seems in Black Pearl Jack will come in his brown coat with no hat (since it's from the 2nd movie) and then we get the last combination of parts: the one in the blue shirt with the hat. Everything seems to be same parts, except if the head has a new back print.

[KristofBD]

Weil, on 26 August 2011 - 04:14 AM, said:

My bad, thought I'd heard otherwise. Actually looks like it is likely they'll be a 5th film in 2013 too which makes classic lego pirates future quite a bit more uncertain.  

It seems that the movie did not do well in the US, but this decrease was more than compensated by gains from the rest of the world.  Now, the question is how important is the US market to LEGO?

[Piranha]

what is different about that Jack, you can make him if you have Jack w/hat and w/o hat versions.

Unless his face has a different reverse, still not worth the $30 IMO though.