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#1 Anio

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 05:48 PM

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Hi !

I would like to build a micro ISD. For the wings :
- it must have studs outside.
- the hypotenuse of the wing may be in the middle or on the side. It makes no difference to me.

Here is Hidaka's ISD : http://www.brickshel...ery.cgi?f=63846
It is quite similar to what I would like to do.

The main (and probable the only) problem I experience it to join the 4 wings. :/

How do you think Hidaka managed to do this ?
Did he use rubbers ?

Thanks for your help !  :blush:

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 06:03 PM

View PostAnio, on 15 July 2010 - 05:48 PM, said:

Hi !

I would like to build a micro ISD. For the wings :
- it must have studs outside.
- the hypotenuse of the wing may be in the middle or on the side. It makes no difference to me.

Here is Hidaka's ISD : http://www.brickshel...ery.cgi?f=63846
It is quite similar to what I would like to do.

The main (and probable the only) problem I experience it to join the 4 wings. :/

How do you think Hidaka managed to do this ?
Did he use rubbers ?

Thanks for your help !  :blush:


i would build it with 1x2 plate with hinge on side and those little hinge bars with a stud on the end and attach the wings with a 1x1 brick with studs on sides.

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 06:50 PM

I would have used illegal connections; see my Interdictor:
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Clips will work wonders here. :classic:

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 07:05 PM

Most likely some illegal connection.
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 07:04 AM

Yeah a bit of illegal connections using the clips just like brickdoctor's, I have done such unorthodox techniques as well and it gets the job done.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 09:46 AM

View PostKielDaMan, on 16 July 2010 - 07:04 AM, said:

Yeah a bit of illegal connections using the clips just like brickdoctor's, I have done such unorthodox techniques as well and it gets the job done.
As I'm a purist, I don't like to use illegal builds (I don't have use it yet in any MOC).
I will try to find a way to build it only with legal builds.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 02:45 PM

So. I worked several hours on my micro ISD, and I reached this conclusion : it is impossible to build it with 4 wings without using illegal builds.
Or maybe it is possible, but I'm not skilled enough.  :sceptic:

So, I built it in a very simple way.
Sure, my mini ISD is not impressive. O_o
But IMO, the shape is quite good. And of course, there is no illegal builds. :)
It also has the right scale compared to my executor.

At the moment, there are many odd colors. In the future, it will be LBG only.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 04:16 PM

View PostAnio, on 16 July 2010 - 02:45 PM, said:

At the moment, there are many odd colors. In the future, it will be LBG only.

I think it looks quite good and some color variation is nice. Starships are seldom one color. To make the difference less severe, perhaps regular grey and bley.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 05:32 PM

Does an illegal connection even count as a non-purist technique? I was under the impression that a purist build simply used on non-modified LEGO parts.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 06:01 PM

Everybody can have his own definition.
As far I'm concerned :
- no modified parts
- no glue
- no illegal builds
- no old colors such as light gray or dark gray (sometime I make exception, but it is very rare)
- no old parts such as hinge 4275 or 4276 (these parts are not used anymore in today's sets)

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 06:15 PM

View PostAnio, on 16 July 2010 - 06:01 PM, said:

Everybody can have his own definition.
As far I'm concerned :
- no modified parts
- no glue
- no illegal builds
- no old colors such as light gray or dark gray (sometime I make exception, but it is very rare)
- no old parts such as hinge 4275 or 4276 (these parts are not used anymore in today's sets)
I see...
So your view of 'Purist' is something that could meet the strength and manufacturing requirements of current LEGO sets?

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 06:35 PM

View PostBrickdoctor, on 16 July 2010 - 06:15 PM, said:

meet the strength and manufacturing requirements of current LEGO sets?
Yes. That is exactly my goal when I build a MOC.  :classic:

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:09 PM

View PostAnio, on 16 July 2010 - 06:35 PM, said:

Yes. That is exactly my goal when I build a MOC.  :classic:
Okay. I assume clips and bars didn't work/was too fragile?

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:24 PM

View PostBrickdoctor, on 16 July 2010 - 08:09 PM, said:

Okay. I assume clips and bars didn't work/was too fragile?
Yes, it is not very strong.
But the main problem was that I didn't even manage to join the 4 wings perfectly.  :wacko:
So, I concluded that I had to build my ISD in another way.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 09:13 PM

I think your version turned out perfect. The scale, and the angle of the slopes and wedges look to be better proportioned anyway. Great job! Cant wait to see the Executor!

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 11:51 PM

View PostAnio, on 16 July 2010 - 08:24 PM, said:

Yes, it is not very strong.
But the main problem was that I didn't even manage to join the 4 wings perfectly.  :wacko:
So, I concluded that I had to build my ISD in another way.
Okay. I tried it out a few months back and got the wings to fit, but the assembly falls apart when you breathe on it. :cry_sad:
Making it a little bigger, this is the best I've ever been able to do, even with illegal connections:
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Well. Now, back to the Executor. It will be more interesting. Posted Image
We can't wait. :sweet:

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:26 AM

Very nice model !
You captured the shape very well !  :thumbup:

Thought, it is a little too big for my Executor.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:37 AM

View PostAnio, on 16 July 2010 - 06:01 PM, said:

Everybody can have his own definition.
As far I'm concerned :
- no modified parts
- no glue
- no illegal builds
- no old colors such as light gray or dark gray (sometime I make exception, but it is very rare)
- no old parts such as hinge 4275 or 4276 (these parts are not used anymore in today's sets)

I agree with everything but last 2 bullets. I think you are being too harsh on those discontinued parts. :p illegal? cmon now!

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:41 AM

View PostEnilder, on 17 July 2010 - 12:37 AM, said:

I agree with everything but last 2 bullets. I think you are being too harsh on those discontinued parts. :p illegal? cmon now!
Me too, but if he want's to meet TLC's set requirements....

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:55 AM

Well I personally hope you'll take a shot at the fearsome executer! :classic:


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