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2506 - Skull Truck - Theme: Ninjago

2506_skull_truck.png

Errors:

Missing some prints and stickers

The side pannel assemblies do not attach to the truck (this may not be a glitch, as they don't actually seem to use a standard connection in the real life kit)

LXF (LDD 4.3)

2521 - Lightning Dragon Battle - Theme: Ninjago

2521_lightning_dragon_battle.png

Errors:

Missing all prints and stickers

Missing string 4297719

Minifig does not fit into spinner

LXF (LDD 4.3)

2254 - Mountain Shrine - Theme: Ninjago

2254_mountain_shrine.png

Errors:

Missing all prints and stickers

Part 4117070 will not attach to 4619707

Part 4551360 will not attach to part 4632572

Minifig will not fit into spinner

The punching bag and spike ball assemblies can not be placed on their mounting poles because they do not use any traditional connections

LXF (LDD 4.3)

Edited by Zarkan

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2506 - Skull Truck - Theme: Ninjago

Errors:

The side pannel assemblies do not attach to the truck (this may not be a glitch, as they don't actually seem to use a standard connection in the real life kit)

If you temporarily put a 4274 in the holes of the 2444, you should be able to hang the side panels in place.

Also, the spikes on the wheels are turned the wrong side up. Flip them over.

2254 - Mountain Shrine - Theme: Ninjago

Errors:

1) Part 4117070 will not attach to 4619707; former part replaced with standard minifig head

2) Part 4551360 will not attach to part 4632572; added extra 1x1 round plate underneath former part to allow for connection

1) Good find. Please do however remove the minifig-head in your model, and put a 1x1 round brick on the ground instead - so that the part content is correct.

2) It seems it's an illegal design from TLG, since the scorpion will collide into some other bricks if using physical bricks. But still, I'd say it's a borderline case. In your LDD model though, please remove the 1x1 round plate you used (leaving the scorpions floating in the air). It's important that models are reproduced as accurately as possible, using no more, no less parts then is in the set (there are exceptions though, for example brick-built substitutions). If you don't want the scorpions floating in mid air, you can put them on the ground instead.

PS: Did you read my PM about one of your earlier Ninjago posts missing (due to the EB database glitch)?

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PS: Did you read my PM about one of your earlier Ninjago posts missing (due to the EB database glitch)?

Oh, I should have miss it!

What was the set id? I have to check if I inserted it in the database!

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2506 - Skull Truck - Theme: Ninjago

Errors:

Missing some prints and stickers

The side pannel assemblies do not attach to the truck (this may not be a glitch, as they don't actually seem to use a standard connection in the real life kit)

LXF (LDD 4.3)

I can see in the thumbnail that you used the wrong helmet for Lord Garmadon. While this helmet (98128 in Titanium Metallic) would be correct in the 2012 sets, in the 2011 sets Lord Garmadon used part 30175 in Silver Metallic. Additionally, don't forget that the flames in the back of the truck can be dual-colored-- the base should be Transparent Red while the tips should be Transparent Bright Orange.

Finally, the two spheres in Lightning Dragon Battle should be colored Transparent Blue, not the azure color you used. To be fair, the actual color they use is labeled "multicombination", which means it's a blend of two colors-- in this case, probably Transparent Blue and Bright Blue, or possibly two different transparent blue colors, but on LDD this is not possible, and it might be better to just use Transparent Blue since that's the color I know for certain.

Edited by Aanchir

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On 12/8/2012 at 4:23 PM, Superkalle said:

Yeah, I noticed that too now. It seems the chain links have small gaps between them that all add up. It's actually somewhat of "bug", since this won't allow you to use the chain as you could in a real model.

Hmm, this might account for the problems I had with the chains in 5976 River Expedition as well, since the instructions show that the chains should be able to stretch that far and still be loose rather than stretched tight, yet it does not work this way in LEGO Digital Designer.

7416 - Emperor's Ship - Theme: Adventurers / Orient Expedition
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7416_emperor_ship.png

[7416 LXF]

Errors:
- Missing/incorrect decorations
- 30219 Bar 16L with Hollow Stud, Towball, and Slit (Windsurfer Mast) has been substituted with 6076 Mast 10M W/Ball
- sail7416 Cloth Sail Junk with Green Oriental Dragon Pattern is not included

7418 - Scorpion Palace (A Model) - Theme: Adventurers / Orient Expedition
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7418_scorpion_palace.png

[7418 LXF]

Errors:
- Missing/incorrect decorations
- 42688 Outer Cable 264Mm, Black has been substituted with 57274 Outer Cable 256MM, which is inflexible and cannot be properly attached to rest of the model
- 2586 Battle Shield cannot be dual-colored Black and Chrome Gold
- 14226 String 11M W. 2 Knobs has been substituted with 63141 String W. Coupl. Points 20M
- 30158 Rucksack W. Film Hinge cannot be placed on 4623 Plate W. Hook
- 43898 Parabolic Reflector 24X6,4 cannot be attached to 3794 Plate 1X2 W. 1 Knob

- 44511 Tower Roof 8 x 12 x 10 Onion Dome has been substituted with a custom assembly
- 71509 Rubber Band Ø13 Mm Internal has been substituted with 85543 V-Belt 15, White, which is inflexible and cannot be placed on the model

And with that, I do believe, with the exception of those Kabaya sets without instructions, the entire Adventurers theme is now indexed!

EDIT 12/16/13: Updated 7416 to LDD 4.3.8.
EDIT 1/31/14: Updated 7418 to LDD 4.3.8, corrected brick error in 7416.
EDIT 11/27/14: Updated 7418 to Brick Version 1564.2.
EDIT 1/26/15: Updated 7416 to Brick Version 1564.2.
EDIT 3/26/16: Updated 7418 to LDD 4.3.9.

Edited by PeabodySam
Fixing post-update post formatting.

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60009 - Helicopter Arrest - Theme: City / Police (2013)

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60009.png

arrow-down-1.png LXF-File [LDD 4.3.5]

Notes:

- no stickers

- wrong torsos (all minifigures)

- wrong heads for gangsters and one policeman (left blank)

- part 30061 replaced by 4218

- part 11212 replaced by plate 2x3 and plate 1x3

- one garage door element could not be assembled

Edited by PsyKater

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You are fast ;) I have already updated both the image and the lxf-file. The heli had some problems to fly I guess.

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I can see in the thumbnail that you used the wrong helmet for Lord Garmadon. While this helmet (98128 in Titanium Metallic) would be correct in the 2012 sets, in the 2011 sets Lord Garmadon used part 30175 in Silver Metallic. Additionally, don't forget that the flames in the back of the truck can be dual-colored-- the base should be Transparent Red while the tips should be Transparent Bright Orange.

Finally, the two spheres in Lightning Dragon Battle should be colored Transparent Blue, not the azure color you used. To be fair, the actual color they use is labeled "multicombination", which means it's a blend of two colors-- in this case, probably Transparent Blue and Bright Blue, or possibly two different transparent blue colors, but on LDD this is not possible, and it might be better to just use Transparent Blue since that's the color I know for certain.

Thanks! You're incredibly knowledgable as always, Aanchir. :wink:

If you temporarily put a 4274 in the holes of the 2444, you should be able to hang the side panels in place.

I already tried that with no success, but just to be sure, I did so again. No dice.

PS: Did you read my PM about one of your earlier Ninjago posts missing (due to the EB database glitch)?

Yes, and I'm not sure why, but for some reason the posts still appear for me and are even editable. :look:

Edited by Zarkan

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I already tried that with no success, but just to be sure, I did so again. No dice.

You're right - off course it won't fit - I mistook it for a 2717 :blush:

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A sailor went to sea, sea, sea to see what he could see, see, see...

And all that he could see, see, see was an Ogel Mutant Squid, a Rogue Knight Battleship, and a River Heist!

8968 - River Heist - Theme: Agents / Agents 2.0
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8968_river_heist.png

[8968 LXF]

Errors:
- Missing/incorrect decorations
- 76254 Outer Cable 184MM is inflexible and cannot be attached to both 32192 Angle Element 135 Deg. [4] bricks
- Warm Gold, Drum Lacq is not included in LDD and has been substituted with Warm Gold

4796 - Ogel Mutant Squid - Theme: Alpha Team / Mission Deep Sea
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4796_ogel_mutant_squid.png

[4796 LXF]

Errors:
- Missing/incorrect decorations
- 32506 Voodoo Claw is not included in LDD and has been substituted with a custom assembly
- Chrome Gold is not included in LDD and has been substituted with Warm Gold

8821 - Rogue Knight Battleship - Theme: Castle / Knights' Kingdom II
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8821_rogue_knight_battleship.png

[8821 LXF]

Notes:
- "Pearl Light Gray" bricks are colored Cool Silver in this LXF, as Cool Silver was the color used at the time of this set's release. Later production runs of this set, however, might have used Silver instead.

Errors:
- Missing/incorrect decorations
- 2958 Technic, Disk 3 x 3 is not included in LDD and has been substituted with 47576 Wheel 17.6 W/Cross
- 32174 Link For Ball is not included in LDD and has been substituted with 60176 Ball Cup 10.2

- 57004 Wing W. Holes Ø 4,84 296/191 is not included in LDD and has been substituted with 51342 Wing w. holes Ø 4,84, which cannot be dual-colored Cool Silver and Flame Yellowish Orange
- 54175 Shell ظ 4.85 "No. 3" is not included in LDD and has been substituted with a custom assembly
- Cool Silver, Diffuse is not included in LDD and has been substituted with Cool Silver, Drum Lacq
- "Speckle DBGray-Silver" is not included in LDD and has been substituted with Cool Silver, Drum Lacq

According to BrickLink, 8821 Rogue Knight Battleship has way too many variations of silver in it. Thank goodness for the Peeron Color List and Aanchir's LDD color chart!

EDIT: Weird, something got messed up in the formatting. It should be fixed, now.
EDIT 12/11/12: Made a couple minor corrections to 8968 and 8821. How come I never notice these minor errors until after I upload them?
EDIT 12/14/12: Made a few more corrections, as pointed out by Aanchir.
EDIT 1/2/13: Made a color correction to 4796.
EDIT 12/16/13: Updated 4796 to LDD 4.3.8.
EDIT 1/31/14: Updated 8821 to LDD 4.3.8.
EDIT 5/9/14: Updated 8821 to LDD 4.3.8, Brick Version 1392.
EDIT 12/7/14: Updated 8968 to LDD 4.3.8, Brick Version 1564.2.
EDIT 3/15/16: Updated 8968 to LDD 4.3.9.

Edited by PeabodySam
Fixing post-update post formatting.

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4796 - Ogel Mutant Squid - Theme: Alpha Team / Mission Deep Sea

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4796 LXF

Errors:

- Missing/incorrect decorations

- 32506 Bionicle Claw with Axle is not included in LDD and has been substituted with a custom assembly

- Chrome Gold is not included in LDD and has been substituted with Warm Gold

Chrome Gold is actually 310 Metallized Gold.

8821 - Rogue Knight Battleship - Theme: Castle / Knights' Kingdom II

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8821 LXF

Errors:

- Missing/incorrect decorations

- 2958 Technic, Disk 3 x 3 is not included in LDD and has been substituted with 47576 Wheel 17.6 W/Cross

- 32174 Technic, Axle Connector 2 x 3 with Ball Socket, Open Sides is not included in LDD and has been substituted with 60176 Ball Cup 10.2

- 51342 Wing w. holes 4,84 cannot be dual-colored Metalized Silver and Bright Yellow

- 54175 Large Figure Armor, Shoulder - Spiky is not included in LDD and has been substituted with a custom assembly

- Speckle Black-Silver is not included in LDD and has been substituted with Silver Metallic

- Speckle DBGray-Silver is not included in LDD and has been substituted with Silver Metallic

According to BrickLink, 8821 Rogue Knight Battleship has way too many variations of silver in it. Thank goodness for the Peeron Color List and Aanchir's LDD color chart!

EDIT: Weird, something got messed up in the formatting. It should be fixed, now.

EDIT: Made a couple minor corrections to 8968 and 8821. How come I never notice these minor errors until after I upload them?

Bricklink's inventory of the Rogue Knight Battleship is not all that reliable... it says Metallic Silver is used for the wings, when in fact parts blended with metallic silver do not and can not exist (Metallic Silver, a.k.a. 298 Cool Silver Drum Lacquered, is a surface treatment, not a plastic color). The wings are actually Flame Yellowish Orange blended with 296 Cool Silver. All the Pearl Light Gray parts in the set should probably be 296 Cool Silver, actually, since that was the silver color at the time-- unless the set is from a later production run in which case they should all be 131 Silver.

The 3x3 disk is actually on LDD-- it uses the alternate part number 2723 and is in the Gears category.

Something that might be helpful to builders in this topic is that Brickset now has parts inventories sourced from service.LEGO.com-- just check the "Parts" tab on any set's page. They're not 100% complete, but they can be a good place to check if you're unsure about the exact color of a piece-- though even they aren't flawless, particularly in years where colors were in transition, like 2005 and 2006. A plus to Brickset's inventories is that they use official LEGO color names.

Edited by Aanchir

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Thanks for the pointers, Aanchir. I was aware that Brickset's database uses the official color names, but I found that too many set inventories were incomplete to make any practical use for them... and here I was, thinking that I had finally found BrickLink to be a reliable source in conjunction with the Peeron color chart...

Also, what about the silver wheels in 7297 Dino Track Transport and 7476 Iron Predator? Brickset lists them as Silver, and BrickLink suggests likewise, but if my memory serves me well (although it often does not), 2005 was the last year of one version of silver, with Cool Silver starting in 2006... and if Silver is the post-2006 silver, then what does that make the pre-2006 silver? Oh, I'm getting myself boggled...

Well, I guess that means I'll be going back and doing some corrections, and not just to the two sets you referred to, but also to the Adventures Amazon sets including "Chrome Gold" elements. Hopefully, one more set ought to be a fine compensation prize for you guys:

1355 - Temple of Gloom - Theme: Studios
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1355_temple_of_gloom.png

[1355 LXF]

Errors:
- Incorrect minifigure decorations
- 4859 Wedge, Plate 3 x 4 without Stud Notches has been substituted with 48183 Plate 3X4 W/Angle

And now, I'm off to fix the colors in my previous entries...

EDIT 2/1/14: Updated to LDD 4.3.8.

Edited by PeabodySam
Fixing post-update post formatting.

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7416 - Emperor's Ship - Theme: Adventurers / Orient Expedition

7418 - Scorpion Palace - Theme: Adventurers / Orient Expedition

Where did these sets spring up from? :tongue:

Remember to don't edit posts to add new sets, the risk is that I don't see that and the sets will be not added to the index.

1355 - Temple of Gloom - Theme: Studios

The post is regular, but the image is oversized for such a small set.

I call upon you to reduce the size of the thumbnail for small sets.

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Where did these sets spring up from? :tongue:

Remember to don't edit posts to add new sets, the risk is that I don't see that and the sets will be not added to the index.

The post is regular, but the image is oversized for such a small set.

I call upon you to reduce the size of the thumbnail for small sets.

They were... there... the whole time? I promise you that no sets have been added to edited posts after your first warning about River Expedition (which was the only time I edited in a set). Besides, that post isn't even edited.

Done. Just for future reference, what would you say is the "cutoff" that defines a small set (256x256 pixel thumbnails) from a large set (512x512 pixel thumbnails)? For 1355 Temple of Gloom, I was unsure, since it was over 50 bricks (which, until now, was the "cutoff" that I was using as a rule of thumb).

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They were... there... the whole time? I promise you that no sets have been added to edited posts after your first warning about River Expedition (which was the only time I edited in a set). Besides, that post isn't even edited.

It seems I was wrong then. That's strange, because I didn't found the entries in the database. Could be a database fault, some kind of error happened saving data.

Very strange, anyway, but the important thing is that I noticed the problem and inserted the sets. :tongue:

Done. Just for future reference, what would you say is the "cutoff" that defines a small set (256x256 pixel thumbnails) from a large set (512x512 pixel thumbnails)? For 1355 Temple of Gloom, I was unsure, since it was over 50 bricks (which, until now, was the "cutoff" that I was using as a rule of thumb).

The measures are provided only as a guideline (except the upper limit of 512x512px, that is categorical).

The size of the thumbnail should be assigned simply with common sense (reported to the 512px for big sets). I think that the image should be enough big to be noticed and the subject should be clearly visible, for the rest... as small as possible.

Your resize for the set 1355 is very good (a little bigger image would be good anyway), while I think your image for the set 4796 is too big still.

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Thanks for the pointers, Aanchir. I was aware that Brickset's database uses the official color names, but I found that too many set inventories were incomplete to make any practical use for them... and here I was, thinking that I had finally found BrickLink to be a reliable source in conjunction with the Peeron color chart...

Also, what about the silver wheels in 7297 Dino Track Transport and 7476 Iron Predator? Brickset lists them as Silver, and BrickLink suggests likewise, but if my memory serves me well (although it often does not), 2005 was the last year of one version of silver, with Cool Silver starting in 2006... and if Silver is the post-2006 silver, then what does that make the pre-2006 silver? Oh, I'm getting myself boggled...

The history of silver elements is a complicated one. Basically, a rule of thumb is that Cool Silver was hardly used in any years other than 2006. It was introduced in 2006 to replace 131 Silver, but apparently it had even more consistency problems than the previous color did, and 131 Silver became the standard again in 2007.

The LEGO customer service database, from which Brickset derives its data, often lists parts from later production runs rather than the initial production runs, hence why so many 2006 sets have Silver parts listed in their inventories where the earlier production runs would have used Cool Silver. Similarly, there are a number of 2005 set inventories that list 297 Warm Gold in their inventories where the original production runs of those sets used 147 Metallic Sand Yellow or 189 Reddish Gold.

Obviously there is no foolproof way of getting the colors of sets right. Most of the time the most reliable method depends on knowing what the colors look like in real life and owning the sets in question. And even this can be unreliable in the cases of transparent colors, the more obscure of which can be difficult to differentiate from their more common counterparts, and metallic colors, which have historically had a great deal of inconsistency. In the particular case of Cool Silver vs. Silver, Cool Silver parts tend to be lighter in color, but of course since it was inconsistencies in Silver that caused Cool Silver to be introduced in the first place, this is not always a hard and fast rule.

Then again, because of its short lifespan, Cool Silver is probably one of the least important colors to get right 100% of the time. 2006 sets can conceivably be built with either Cool Silver or regular Silver and still be considered "accurate". As long as you're not using Cool Silver or Silver Metallic in, say, 2002 sets, you shouldn't have too many problems.

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Alright. I've resized 4796 Ogel Mutant Squid to a smaller size, and I'll do my best to keep your guidelines in mind in the future.

I'm afraid I've still got some questions about the many colors of silver (LDD includes Silver, Metallic Light Grey, Silver Flip/Flop, Cool Silver, Cool silver drum lacq, Metalized Silver, and Silver Metallic, and these aren't even all of the variations of silver produced by LEGO!), but I don't think this topic is the best place to continue asking these questions. It certainly does not help that LEGO sites seem to be notoriously bad at identifying the correct version of silver, and comparing the pieces in real life can only get you so far if you don't know the corresponding names.

For two of these next few Alpha Team sets, I took the liberty of adding an alternate LXF for the set's "Alpha Mode" version, which would not be considered an alternate model and so is not given a separate entry. The "Alpha Mode" of 4744 Tundra Tracker, the "Magma Drill", proved trickier to replicate in LDD and so is not included, but I'm sure that someone with too much time on his/her hands can figure out how to make it.  EDIT: I've now added a new LXF file for the "Magma Drill" configuration.

4742 - Chill Speeder - Theme: Alpha Team / Mission Deep Freeze
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4742_chill_speeder.png

[4742 LXF] (alternate LXF for X-1 Snowbot Defender)

Errors:
- Missing/incorrect decorations
- 30397 Drawbar 1X5 is not included in LDD and has been substituted with a custom assembly

4743 - Ice Blade - Theme: Alpha Team / Mission Deep Freeze
[bricklink] [brickset]

4743_ice_blade.png

[4743 LXF] (alternate LXF for IC-2 Helicopter)

Errors:
- Missing/incorrect decorations
- 30407 Flap 2X8 Friction/Fork bricks cannot be angled at 90 degrees
- 30397 Drawbar 1X5 is not included in LDD and has been substituted with a custom assembly
- 44034 Bionicle Weapon Quake Breaker / All-Terrain Track is not included in LDD and has been substituted with 44032 Skate
- 30064 Whip Aerial - Tr has been substituted with 3957 Stick/Aerial

4744 - Tundra Tracker - Theme: Alpha Team / Mission Deep Freeze
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http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/SJPlego/LDDSets/AlphaTeam/MissionDeepFreeze/4744_tundra_tracker.png

[4744 LXF] (alternate LXF for Magma Drill)

Errors:
- Missing/incorrect decorations
- Radia cannot be placed inside the ice block due to collision errors
- 30397 Drawbar 1X5 is not included in LDD and has been substituted with a custom assembly
- 47847 Wall Element 2X4X6, Iceberg cannot be dually-colored White and Tr.Fluore. Blue

EDIT 12/27/12: Color correction in 4744.
EDIT 7/12/13: Updated 4744 to LDD 4.3.6.
EDIT 1/31/14: Updated 4743 to LDD 4.3.8.
EDIT 10/18/14: Updated 4743 to Brick Version 1564.1.
EDIT 12/15/16: Updated 4744 to LDD 4.3.10 and added Magma Drill LXF.

Edited by PeabodySam
Fixed typo.

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79000 Riddles for the Ring (LDD 4.3.5 - The Hobbit)

LXF File

riddles_for_the_ring.png

ERRORS:

Replaced parts 10048 with 87991, 10053 with 95053, 11010 with 85861, and Gollum with brick-built solution

Incorrect/missing prints

79001 Escape from Mirkwood Spiders (LDD 4.3.5 - The Hobbit)

LXF File

escape_from_mirkwood_spiders2.png

ERRORS:

Missing part 12547

Replaced parts 10055pb01 with 40239, 11908 with 88283 and 95673 with 95053

Incorrect/missing prints

79002 Attack of the Wargs (LDD 4.3.5 - The Hobbit)

LXF File

attack_of_the_wargs.png

ERRORS:

Replaced parts 10052 with 6132, 10066pb01 with 93230; 11212 with brick-built solution, 11421pb01 with 87999; 11429pb01, wargpb01 and wargpb02 with 98496; 11908 with 90396; and 95673 with 95053

Incorrect/missing prints

Part 64647 cannot connect to 4081 (p26)

79003 An Unexpected Gathering (LDD 4.3.5 - The Hobbit - Duplicate)

LXF File

an_unexpected_gathering.png

ERRORS:

Replaced parts 3680 with 4150, 10048 with 87991, 10052 with 6132, 11211 and Balin's hair with brick-built solutions, 11833 with 60474, Bofur's hat with 30113, Bombur's beard with 60750, and Dwalin's beard with 93223

Incorrect/missing prints and stickers

79004 Barrel Escape (LDD 4.3.5 - The Hobbit)

LXF File

barrel_escape.png

ERRORS:

Replaced parts 10048 with 87991, 10053 with 95053, 10055pb01 with 40239, 11010 with 85861, 11156 with 30173, and 11423pb01 and 11900 with brick-built solutions

Replaced Speckle Black-Silver with Titanium Metallic

Incorrect/missing prints

Collision error between parts 11423pb01 and bb559 (p4)

Part 3960 cannot connect to 30139 (p27)

Collision error between parts 3794 and 40243 (p55)

79010 The Goblin King Battle (LDD 4.3.5 - The Hobbit)

LXF File

the_goblin_king_battle.png

ERRORS:

Replaced parts 10061 with 60673, 10062 with 60641, 10063 with 60672, 10064 with 60640, 11425pb01 with 60671, Dori's hair with 93217, Goblin head with 62537, and Nori's hair with brick-built solution

Replaced Speckle Black-Silver with Titanium Metallic

Incorrect/missing prints and stickers

Part 48729 cannot connect to 4489

Collision error between parts 4341 and 75937 (Book 3, p38)

Part 92338 cannot connect to 32016 or 32034 (Book 3, p57)

Edited by ADHO15

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@Johan J

You only have to report the fix, you don't need to post the set again! :grin:

I edit your post to show you how to do. :wink:

PS: about the use of the attachment function of the forum, we prefer to don't use it in this case.

A brickshelf gallery is reliable enough and allow you to share and deeplink both images and lxf files.

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