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#51 Admiral Bejaune

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 03:09 AM

Here are some better quality photos. There is much, much more rigging to be done, as well as making her sails, so there is a lot to do before she is complete. Enjoy!  Feedback is much appreciated.

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 08:18 AM

Wow Admiral! What a stunning update! :pir-wub:
She looks great, awesome lines and her masts start turning out really well!
This is certainly becoming one of the best ships I've ever seen.
Great job so far, and good luck with the rigging process! :thumbup:

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 05:16 PM

She looks absolutely beautiful buddy!  :thumbup:
I especially like the sleek look she has, I do need to discuss 1 or 2 things on MSN with you.  :pir-wink:
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 05:31 PM

Looks very sleek!

I very much like the overal shape of the hull and the look of the masts.

And I like the simple color scheme of these US frigates.

No doubt, this one is frontpage material once finished.

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 06:00 PM

Amazing update Admiral!
Her masts are starting to look great, the black rigging looks really authentic  :thumbup:
Her bow looks great as well!!
Keep those updates coming Admiral  :pir-wub:
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Posted 08 April 2010 - 12:21 AM

That is a beauty you got there! I love the rigging - as Errorist said, it looks authentic.  :pir-classic:
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Posted 08 April 2010 - 12:56 AM

Hey there, Admiral!

That's certainly a beauty, you got there. I especially like the very sleek and elegant appeareance achieved through the lenght of 7 midsections and comparatively small horizontal curving.
The jumperplates also are a nice touch for the protection beams.  :thumbup:
Your Bell is also nice, I might try that as well on my frigates.

One thing I don't like so much is the dark tan headrails. Certainly dark tan is  great colour, but IMO it seems a bit misplaced there. Personally I'd prefer white.
I'm not so sure of the MOC cannons on the upper gundeck: didn't most frigates at that time (and esspecially the US ones) have carronades?
Well consider this a question of taste...

But - most importantly - the rigging with that lovely black string looks excellent! Anyone got an idea where to get such nice string in Germany? I have looked around a lot, but haven't found that good one...

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 02:51 AM

View PostPerfectionist, on Apr 7 2010, 05:56 PM, said:

But - most importantly - the rigging with that lovely black string looks excellent! Anyone got an idea where to get such nice string in Germany? I have looked around a lot, but haven't found that good one...

Same here...

I've been looking around for string only slightly thinner than that. Any idea what brand it is?

Oh yeah, and the ship is looking great too! I might reccomend making the lower mast completely white and lose the stripes...

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 01:26 PM

View Postthe_green_avenger, on Apr 8 2010, 03:51 AM, said:

Oh yeah, and the ship is looking great too! I might reccomend making the lower mast completely white and lose the stripes...

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Those "Stripes are iron rings or something wich holded the mast together, The mast wasnt usually in 1 piece, iron "rings" holded it together. I cannot transelate the anserw how the mast were maked, but i guess someone knows how they were maked, in sweden they used that technique so i say: Keep those black bricks on the mast, it adds a relistic looks at me

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 01:34 AM

View PostCaptain Becker, on Apr 8 2010, 06:26 AM, said:

Those "Stripes are iron rings or something wich holded the mast together, The mast wasnt usually in 1 piece, iron "rings" holded it together. I cannot transelate the anserw how the mast were maked, but i guess someone knows how they were maked, in sweden they used that technique so i say: Keep those black bricks on the mast, it adds a relistic looks at me

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I know that iron rings were used, but they were not near that thick. On the Beagle I used 2x2 black plates (not rounded) to represent iron rings and it looks really good.

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 07:31 PM

Nice Boat (pity it has to be american but hey we beat Napoleon and they DIDN'T).By the way how many guns :cannon: ?
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Posted 09 April 2010 - 11:28 PM

View Postikensall, on Apr 9 2010, 02:31 PM, said:

Nice Boat (pity it has to be american but hey we beat Napoleon and they DIDN'T).By the way how many guns :cannon: ?

Why is that a pity?  And she has 50 guns.
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Posted 09 April 2010 - 11:34 PM

View PostAdmiral Bejaune, on Apr 9 2010, 04:28 PM, said:

And she has 50 guns.

all of a sudden this ship seems slightly larger...  :pir-tongue:

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View Postthe_green_avenger, on Apr 9 2010, 06:34 PM, said:

all of a sudden this ship seems slightly larger...  :pir-tongue:

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If you would READ the first post I made I stated that she had 54 guns. :wink:
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 12:28 AM

View PostAdmiral Bejaune, on Apr 9 2010, 05:25 PM, said:

If you would READ the first post I made I stated that she had 54 guns. :wink:

It's been a month and a half since you posted that... I forget things...

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View Postthe_green_avenger, on Apr 10 2010, 01:28 AM, said:

It's been a month and a half since you posted that... I forget things...

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It has also been on the frontpage for the last 2-3 days. Unless if you didn't read that..
So is she going to have 50 or 54 guns? (and also carronades?)
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 10:31 AM

You've managed to squeeze 28 guns on just 7 midsections, which is incredible! However the "real" 6  American heavy Frigates had 30 guns and 32 gunports on the gundeck. So I can't imagine you'll manage to fit 54 guns, which would be realistic. 50 seems more doable; and it's still enormous for a frigate!

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 12:00 AM

View PostAdmiral Croissant, on Apr 10 2010, 04:44 AM, said:

So is she going to have 50 or 54 guns? (and also carronades?)
No Just long guns.. No carronades.  The Uss President's, as well as the Constitutions first armament did not have carronades, but just all long guns.  The long guns on the spar decks where replaced with carronade later on.  So I am making her armament like it was when it was first built. (That is also why her headrails are not like the current Constitutions headrails, and her stern has a bit more ornate look.  The headrails and stern design changed later in her career.)

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You've managed to squeeze 28 guns on just 7 midsections, which is incredible! However the "real" 6  American heavy Frigates had 30 guns and 32 gunports on the gundeck. So I can't imagine you'll manage to fit 54 guns, which would be realistic. 50 seems more doable; and it's still enormous for a frigate!
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Yea Im quite proud of fitting 28 guns on her gundeck (with four stud spacing), as well as the 22 guns on her upper deck.  I am aware of how much more armed the Us frigates REALLY were, but I think this is close enough for being built on prefabs (7 Mids is the max in my book), and the Number is 50 guns, not 54.

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 08:28 AM

Where did you get that rope?  It looks just like the LEGO rope.  That stuff is excellent, it's.. miniature rope, really!  I haven't seen it anywhere besides LEGO sets.

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 04:40 PM

View PostSkulls_Eye_Schooner_Sailor, on Apr 17 2010, 01:28 AM, said:

Where did you get that rope?  It looks just like the LEGO rope.  That stuff is excellent, it's.. miniature rope, really!  I haven't seen it anywhere besides LEGO sets.

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View Postthe_green_avenger, on Apr 17 2010, 11:40 AM, said:

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look for nylon string...

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Wow, really?  I can't believe Hobby Lobby didn't have it!  Thanks!  Nice ship so far, by the way... got to be tough with no hull sections, but at least you have a keel!

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View PostSkulls_Eye_Schooner_Sailor, on Apr 21 2010, 07:19 AM, said:

Wow, really?  I can't believe Hobby Lobby didn't have it!  Thanks!  Nice ship so far, by the way... got to be tough with no hull sections, but at least you have a keel!

were you talking to me or bejuane?
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Posted 22 April 2010 - 03:01 AM

I guess both.  You about the string and him about the ship. :pir-tongue: I keep forgetting it isn't your ship.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:54 AM

with the making of this ship, does this mean that the Sang Royale has been demolished? please say no. PLEASE!
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View Postplokoon 4 life!, on 23 September 2010 - 03:54 AM, said:

with the making of this ship, does this mean that the Sang Royale has been demolished? please say no. PLEASE!

No. Sang Royale has not been demolished.  Expect an update on the USS President soon.
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