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#1 Chromeknight

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 04:33 AM

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Crusing brickset and I noticed that there will be more HP sets in october including
a new Hogwarts express

http://www.brickset....ail/?Set=4841-1

Now I don't want to start a bunch of speculation, since I know nothing more than
indicated by BrickSet.

If someone does have solid information (not speculation or vain wishing it uses EN
wheels) then let's hear it. Otherwise it's fine of the topic lies quiet for a few months...

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 04:57 AM

View PostChromeknight, on Jan 16 2010, 11:33 PM, said:

Crusing brickset and I noticed that there will be more HP sets in october including
a new Hogwarts express

http://www.brickset....ail/?Set=4841-1

Now I don't want to start a bunch of speculation, since I know nothing more than
indicated by BrickSet.

If someone does have solid information (not speculation or vain wishing it uses EN
wheels) then let's hear it. Otherwise it's fine of the topic lies quiet for a few months...

Look into the licensed sub-forum and you'll see that there is a whole discussion on this topic.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 05:02 AM

I don't have any hope for this one, after seeing that hideous excuse for a "Western Train" from the Toy Story line.  :sick:

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 05:05 AM

View PostLegoliner Pilot, on Jan 16 2010, 11:02 PM, said:

I don't have any hope for this one, after seeing that hideous excuse for a "Western Train" from the Toy Story line.  :sick:

You are aware, aren't you, that the Toy Story train is based off a child's toy train from a cartoon-ish movie where everything is stylized anyway?

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 05:11 AM

View PostSavaTheAggie, on Jan 17 2010, 01:05 AM, said:

You are aware, aren't you, that the Toy Story train is based off a child's toy train from a cartoon-ish movie where everything is stylized anyway?

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Yes I am. This is the 501st time someone has told me that actually. It doesn't revoke my opinion, does it? Of course I wasn't expecting something like your absolutely wonderful steam locomotives (really  :wub: them! :oh:), but I  was expecting something other than short wagons and out of whack proportions.

IMO, the whole thing is ruined because of it being to scale of those... um... Maxifigs with those ugly heads that IMO aren't even minifgures?

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 05:11 AM

The HP Train is mentioned in the following licensed topic (as mentioned above):  Harry Potter 2010 Discussion Thread.

I was tempted to close this topic, but as this is a train, and we have our our Train forum, I'll go ahead and leave it open if anyone wants to discuss.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 05:49 AM

View PostTheBrickster, on Jan 17 2010, 05:11 PM, said:

The HP Train is mentioned in the following licensed topic (as mentioned above):  Harry Potter 2010 Discussion Thread.

I was tempted to close this topic, but as this is a train, and we have our our Train forum, I'll go ahead and leave it open if anyone wants to discuss.
I modded the original HP train by adding a train motor and train wheels plus extra carriages. I am thinking of turning an Emerald Night into one by changing the green for red. If this new HP train is OK I might mod that too  :classic:

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 05:57 AM

View PostAllanSmith, on Jan 17 2010, 03:49 PM, said:

I am thinking of turning an Emerald Night into one by changing the green for red.
How will you go about aquiring red 2 x 4 round slope bricks?

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 03:05 PM

Hopefully it'll be more realistic looking than the last one!

Maybe on a par with Emerald Night?

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 04:18 PM

As long as it looks vaguely like the real loco, GWR "Hall" class no. 5972 Olton Hall, and uses PF to drive the loco's wheels I'll be happy. if some of the details look a bit odd I can always tweak them like I've done with 10194. Ideally I'd love alternative stickers to name the model Olton Hall, but that'd probably require Lego getting permission from its owners, West Coast Railways.

For some reason I can imagine Lego deciding to keep the boiler diameter the same as the previous model. Fitting a PF motor could as such be tricky. I just hope that they don't reuse that awful printed smokebox door from the old model. I know printing is preferable to stickers, but it was terrible! The headboard was too big and the number was incorrectly positioned as a result. The number was also the wrong size and font. Yes, I'm being pedantic when it's just intended to be a toy, but what can I say? My other trains are mega-detailed 00 scale models!

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 11:03 PM

Too bad...

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However I am disappointed to report that Hogwarts Express does NOT use the new train wheels and looks just as bad as the last one which really is a shame.
(from Brickset)

So, no train wheels, no motor and no nice train parts, just a little more of the expensive licence stuff.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 12:42 AM

Too bad, they could have made such a nice set with the new wheels  :sad:

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 11:18 AM

Perhaps we should remind ourselves of the old motorised version:

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Great for 9V fans - motor, track, wheels & buffers...

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 05:51 PM

I agree, but as it seems this new version will be without all that, and more like this one:

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OK, I can live without proper train wheels (I have a lot of those), but if the design will be  as bad as this one...

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 06:39 PM

Missed opportunity. I was looking forward to a red sister for the Emerald Night but this looks like a theme park train, not a steam train.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:06 PM

View PostCwetqo, on Jan 27 2010, 07:51 PM, said:

OK, I can live without proper train wheels (I have a lot of those), but if the design will be  as bad as this one...

I'm not getting it... the H.E. in the two pictures look almost the same except for the train wheels and the missing glass windows. Of course the one in the picture you posted doesn't have the tender! But the design seems almost identical... what am I not seeing?  :tongue:

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:08 PM

Isn't it enough? With those wheels train looks childish, without tender it can be hardly called train and I havent even noticed the windows. I'm not a great fan of motorized version either, but it's at least a good part pack

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:27 PM

I don't want to crush your spirits or anything, but this speculation about no big drivers has not been confirmed by LEGO, so don't look at it as fact! Wait until we see official photos, then start complaining about it.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:49 AM

From this post on Brickset:

"Huw @ Brickset" said:

I went to the London Toy Fair today specifically to visit the LEGO stand.
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However I am disappointed to report that Hogwarts Express does NOT use the new train wheels and looks just as bad as the last one...
An eye-witness report from the toy-fair is good enough for me...
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:23 AM

View PostDuq, on Jan 28 2010, 12:49 PM, said:

An eye-witness report from the toy-fair is good enough for me...
Perhaps, but I'll be waiting until an official announcement to decide what  I think of the set.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 01:33 PM

View PostCaptain Zuloo, on Jan 28 2010, 03:23 AM, said:

Perhaps, but I'll be waiting until an official announcement to decide what  I think of the set.

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 04:47 PM

If anyone wants to see pictures of the new train, you can view them here:
http://toyfair2010.f...o.php/photo/796

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 05:01 PM

Great find Darth Legolas!

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 05:01 PM

It's all worked out now SuperChris, we both get our 10-seconds of fame! :tongue:

The train is very nice in my opinion, it's very unchanged, the front is better, but the cabin in the back lost some and gained some, so it equals out. The detailing on the tender is very good. :thumbup:

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 05:12 PM

I didn't find it, just took the link from the other thread because I know some train tech's don't visit that thread. Sorry for not giving credit  :grin:!



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