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#1 simonskluk

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 02:58 PM

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Hi there, can any one point me in the right direction for these, i have seen them on ebay, they are brilliant quality but would like to produce my own here in edinburgh - can anyone help?

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 11:10 PM

View Postsimonskluk, on Jan 11 2010, 05:58 PM, said:

Hi there, can any one point me in the right direction for these, i have seen them on ebay, they are brilliant quality but would like to produce my own here in edinburgh - can anyone help?

Hi there. It might help if you posted an image or a link to which stickers or decals you are referring to.  Generally however a well stocked arts and crafts store, stationery store or even an IT store with a good selection of printing supplies, will be able to provide you with either clear, or white decal sheets for which ever type of printer you have at home.  I think there is a Staples and Office Depot in Edinburgh, but smaller stores usually have them too. Print your decals on cheap, regular paper first until you get the size right. The decal sheets are rather expensive.
Hope that helps!

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#3 simonskluk

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 11:51 PM

Oh thats great thanks, i thought it would only be possible with litho or screen printiing - can you get clear stuff thats sticky?

thanks si

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:03 AM

Can't find a link now but I remember there was someone who sold sheets of train stickers on eBay. They were screen-printed; white on clear, and they were reprints of various stickers from the 80's.
No idea what happened to him.
Printing stickers on a white base can be done with a colour laser printer. Printing on clear is much harder...
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 03:38 PM

Ministickers.nl is one site selling all sorts of (train) stickers. I've bought some train stickers from them and the quality was excellent.

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:16 PM

View PostDuq, on Jan 12 2010, 02:03 AM, said:

Printing stickers on a white base can be done with a colour laser printer. Printing on clear is much harder...
White or transparent sticker paper is available for laser or inktjet. Printing looks fine, the only difference between them is that the transparent is really expensive (about 2,5€ per paper).


View Postvgo, on Jan 12 2010, 04:38 PM, said:

Wow, cool site  :classic:

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:47 PM

I had the decal sheets for an inkjet printer and the printing quality was quite ok (I should add this was many years ago and since then printers and sheets have no doubt improved). But like Aawsum said and I also previously mentioned, they (especially clear), are quite expensive.
You can also get regular sticker sheets, pre-cut or un-cut from manufacturers like Avery which you will also find in the stores I mentioned a previous post. Microsoft Word usually has many of the Avery label templates stored in its label printing function.
I am really looking forward to seeing what you will be using these for!

And that is a cool site! I have added that to my favorites.  :classic:

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#8 SavaTheAggie

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 09:33 PM

I can't help with any ideas on clear stickers.  I've been using photo sticker paper for years for my trains, seems to work out pretty well for me.  I just use my father's nice inkjet and photoshop.  Sure it takes a little doing to match LEGO colors, and I don't always get it right, but I've done it enough times now that I've got it down to an art.

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:21 PM

View Postaawsum, on Jan 12 2010, 08:16 PM, said:

White or transparent sticker paper is available for laser or inktjet. Printing looks fine, the only difference between them is that the transparent is really expensive (about 2,5€ per paper).
Two problems with transparent stickers:
The printed colours are slightly translucent, making it hard to use them on dark colours.
Laser and inkjet printers don't have white ink...
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 02:06 PM

View PostSavaTheAggie, on Jan 12 2010, 04:33 PM, said:

I can't help with any ideas on clear stickers.  I've been using photo sticker paper for years for my trains, seems to work out pretty well for me.  I just use my father's nice inkjet and photoshop.  Sure it takes a little doing to match LEGO colors, and I don't always get it right, but I've done it enough times now that I've got it down to an art.

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Cant you just go to bricklink? They have the exact colors.. I think.. o_O just download that little image and use the dropper tool to copy the color?  :wink:

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#11 simonskluk

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 06:06 PM

View Postvgo, on Jan 12 2010, 03:38 PM, said:

Ministickers.nl is one site selling all sorts of (train) stickers. I've bought some train stickers from them and the quality was excellent.

Thats a brilliant site - should sort me out, thanks for all the help
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 10:03 PM

View PostRyan_T, on Jan 14 2010, 08:06 AM, said:

Cant you just go to bricklink? They have the exact colors.. I think.. o_O just download that little image and use the dropper tool to copy the color?  :wink:

If only it were that simple.  Sure, I can match LEGO colors digitally, but the way a printer interprets color data is nearly unique between printer models.  One printer may print green lighter, one may print yellow with more orange.  This is why clear stickers are preferred by many, but I just go with the method that doesn't require me to buy a specialized printer to get the results I want.

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 11:56 PM

View PostSavaTheAggie, on Jan 14 2010, 10:03 PM, said:

... the way a printer interprets color data is nearly unique between printer models.  One printer may print green lighter, one may print yellow with more orange...
...and that's before you take different materials into consideration...
If you do test runs on paper to match the colour, chances are it's going to look different again when you use the actual sticker.
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Posted 18 January 2010 - 04:38 AM

This is a good topic!  

I have had good success printing on Clear Gloss Inkjet labels from onlinelabels.com.  I used these labels on my Eurostar and ICE 3 models, and the quality is excellent.  Laser labels are also available.  The nice thing with onlinelabels.com is that you can buy any number of sheets, say 10 or 20, and the cost is not all that unreasonable.  I could not find such a product in my local office supply store, so their solution worked well.  The sheets can also be ordered in a whole bunch of different label patterns, but I found the full page label to be convenient.

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Two problems with transparent stickers:
The printed colours are slightly translucent, making it hard to use them on dark colours.
Laser and inkjet printers don't have white ink...
I agree that the colours are slightly translucent -- both of my applications were on white bricks, which worked great, but for darker colours you might have to experiment with more colour saturation.  And yes, the lack of white ink is the biggest challenge, since in many cases one would like to put a translucent sticker with white lettering (for example) on dark bricks.

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Can't find a link now but I remember there was someone who sold sheets of train stickers on eBay. They were screen-printed; white on clear, and they were reprints of various stickers from the 80's.
I had discussions with this seller one time (I don't know where he went either!), and I seem to recall he used an Everest thermal printer to print white on clear.  They have now become part of Rimage, which only seems to make printers for CDs and DVDs.  Of course one could use clear CD labels (if they make such a thing) and then cut them out, but this is getting to be a pretty specialist (and expensive) product... perhaps there are other printer manufacturers too?

The website ministickers.nl looks very interesting -- thanks for the link!

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 08:56 AM

Hi,

label printers like the Brother P-Touch ( http://www.brother-u...DUCTID=PT2430PC ) offer a great variety of tape to be printed on. even "white on clear" seems to work. This might a good solution for smaller stickers not larger then the width of the tape.


Years ago (2000/2001) I was happy to find a copying service agency in Aachen (Germany) which had a copying maschine with white toner instead of black toner. And I was happy to find a clear, head resistance sticker sheet in A4 size. You can see the result on on my BR 101 engine:

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#16 simonskluk

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 06:22 PM

I have the brother printer and though the resolution is low, its not too bad and you can do white on clear. If you want to print larger stickers, using the brother program, you can spread an image across tape widths and then line them up when you stick them - its pretty accurate. i was hoping for a higher resolution output, but it seems its done by litho printing or screen printing as far as i can find out.....



View PostHoMa, on Jan 18 2010, 08:56 AM, said:

Hi,

label printers like the Brother P-Touch ( http://www.brother-u...DUCTID=PT2430PC ) offer a great variety of tape to be printed on. even "white on clear" seems to work. This might a good solution for smaller stickers not larger then the width of the tape.


Years ago (2000/2001) I was happy to find a copying service agency in Aachen (Germany) which had a copying maschine with white toner instead of black toner. And I was happy to find a clear, head resistance sticker sheet in A4 size. You can see the result on on my BR 101 engine:

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:16 AM

does anybody have a jpeg or tiff of the lego sticker to print out? like the train logo with the arrows? the mail decal with the horns. and the RC side decals, with the weight etc....



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