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#1 jusutus

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 07:58 PM

Hello everyone,

I'm new on this forum and wanted to ask you guys a few tips for improving my Crane Truck.

I'm planning on adding a fifth axle on the rear, double wheels on the three rear axles and a scaffold.

I have pretty much figured out how to build the fifth axle, but where could I get eight wheels for my project? The size is 62.4x20. I've checked out the eBay and couldn't find any wheels for a decent price.
I live in Finland so the delivery cost are a bit of an issue if ordering overseas (like the USA).

Does someone have an idea how to adjust the height of the fifth axle? Like with a damper, similar to the solution on the front wheel of the 8480 Space Shuttle.
I will make it usable by hand - not by a motor or pneumatics.

I would also appreciate if someone knows where to get more of the large red panels on the 8258, next to the battery box. I'm planning to build the scaffold out of them.

Thanks for any info!

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#2 TechnicJuan

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 08:01 PM

There is someone who has a bunch of mods for this set. I will try and find them for you.

#3 Milan

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 09:25 PM

Here is the best set of modification so far, IMO:

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#4 DLuders

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 01:57 AM

Using Peeron.com , one can type in the set number (8258) and get the parts numbers you want (from http://peeron.com/inv/sets/8258-1 ):

#64782 -- Technic Panel 1 x 5 x 11

#85652 -- Wheel 62.4 x 20 S Type II with Short Axlehole

#32019 -- Tyre 62.4 x 20 S

Then, using Bricklink.com , you can type in the part numbers to find sellers worldwide that have the parts.  There are virtual Bricklink stores in Germany that have what you want.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 02:14 AM

View PostMilan, on Dec 12 2009, 07:25 AM, said:

Here is the best set of modification so far, IMO:

Click me!
Thanks! I'm downloading them now.... :grin:





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#6 Parax

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 01:01 PM

View Postjusutus, on Dec 11 2009, 07:58 PM, said:

but where could I get eight wheels for my project?

If only someone had put in a lot of effort to create some sort of website to Link people to Bricks.. hey hang on a minute!
www.bricklink.com <<  if you dont know this is the most useful site on the net, possibly more useful that www.lego.com!!

The service is usually very good - just check the shops terms before you buy - some sellers add tax and fees ontop of listed prices. shipping to finland won't be a problem in most cases. there are probably sellers in Finland anyway! just create an account and you will get a little icon next to the sellers name indicating if he will ship to you.

Hubs:
http://www.bricklink...D...&colorID=86
Tires:
http://www.bricklink...D...&colorID=11

It is true that Lego make more rubber tires than any other company on the planet!

Edited by Parax, 12 December 2009 - 01:02 PM.


#7 Milan

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 01:16 PM

View PostParax, on Dec 12 2009, 02:01 PM, said:

www.bricklink.com <<  if you dont know this is the most useful site on the net, possibly more useful that www.lego.com!!

It is extremely useful for me, much much more useful than lego.com

jusutus, if you want to add more exlusive look to the model, you can use these:
Metallic Wheels

I have 10 of them, and they are perfect!
Take a look at them in my old tractor truck:
Wheels on truck

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#8 Jetro

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 04:29 PM

View PostMilan, on Dec 11 2009, 10:25 PM, said:

Here is the best set of modification so far, IMO:

Click me!
You can also get them in PDF format from Han's site: http://www.designer-...difications.htm

#9 DLuders

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:49 PM

View PostJetro, on Dec 12 2009, 08:29 AM, said:

You can also get them in PDF format from Han's site: http://www.designer-...difications.htm
I downloaded the files from Han's website, but they have a strange file extension of "RAR" that cannot be opened by WinZip or Adobe Acrobat Reader.  How can you open these two Zipped files?

#10 Cavey

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 02:36 AM

file extension RAR needs WINRAR to open

#11 jusutus

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Posted 14 December 2009 - 11:55 PM

View PostTechnicJuan, on Dec 11 2009, 10:01 PM, said:

There is someone who has a bunch of mods for this set. I will try and find them for you.
Thanks - I had already seen that and am going to add at least some of these in the future!

View PostParax, on Dec 12 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

www.bricklink.com <<  if you dont know this is the most useful site on the net, possibly more useful that www.lego.com!!
Thanks, this was a stranger to me! Looks like I'll be spending my next three hours browsing the parts I need...

View PostMilan, on Dec 12 2009, 03:16 PM, said:

jusutus, if you want to add more exlusive look to the model, you can use these:
Metallic Wheels
Looks nice, but I'm going to keep the "old" wheels since I'd have to purchase 16 of the metallic wheels - not too cheap, eh? :/

#12 Milan

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 12:03 AM

View Postjusutus, on Dec 15 2009, 12:55 AM, said:

Looks nice, but I'm going to keep the "old" wheels since I'd have to purchase 16 of the metallic wheels - not too cheap, eh? :/

Well, according to your first post you would need only 10 of the metallic wheels...the rest of the wheels are not visible so they can be in grey :classic:
But, it will look great even without that new wheels :thumbup:
I agree that they are very expensive!
Looking forward to see your MODification!
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#13 jusutus

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 12:09 AM

View PostMilan, on Dec 15 2009, 02:03 AM, said:

Well, according to your first post you would need only 10 of the metallic wheels...the rest of the wheels are not visible so they can be in grey :classic:
True, but since I'm a bit of a perfectionist - all the wheels must look the same! Posted Image

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 12:14 AM

View Postjusutus, on Dec 15 2009, 01:09 AM, said:

True, but since I'm a bit of a perfectionist - all the wheels must look the same! Posted Image

So am I :tongue:
I am glad that we think in the same (and expensive :hmpf_bad: ) manner!
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Posted 15 December 2009 - 01:02 AM

View Postjusutus, on Dec 14 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

True, but since I'm a bit of a perfectionist - all the wheels must look the same! Posted Image

If you are really a perfectionist, you will notice that the 8258 wheels have a slightly shorter hub than the older version which looked almost identical, so you can really only use wheels from another 8258 set.  :tongue:

I love Han's revisions, but for the dual rear axles, I think I like this one even better because it adds dual rear differentials as well.
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#16 Jetro

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 11:06 PM

Hadn't seen that one yet. Thanks for the link!

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Posted 17 December 2009 - 06:08 AM

View Postjusutus, on Dec 14 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

True, but since I'm a bit of a perfectionist - all the wheels must look the same! Posted Image


Actually, if you really want to be a perfectionist and copy real vehicles, then Milan's sugjestion of useing standard grey wheels for the inside rear wheels are more like the real thing. Real trucks with dual rear wheels that have custom/chrome rims, never have matching inside wheels unless the wheel diameter has been changed.  Since there not seen, it would be a waste of money. Some aftermarket wheels for dual rear wheeled trucks don't even have provisions of swapping them to the inside for tire rotation mantainence.
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