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WIP Phantom MkII Z's never quite finished goes back to WIP

#1 User is online   ZCerberus 


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Posted 26 October 2009 - 05:09 PM

The Phantom has always been the pride and joy of Admiral Buress’s fleet. It, however, never photographed well because it was just too black. I lightened it up by making the decks reddish brown- but overall it was still just too colorless.

Here is a link to the old girl... The Phantom

It had a good shape and size- but it was just too darn black to pick up any details. Though black is still a major color- I decided to do some things to enhance the look of the ship…

The changes:

1. Less black- more dark red!

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2. Bigger gun ports!

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3. Better placement of capstan (and it works better too), deck opening moved to below long boat rack.

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4. Deck tiling!

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5. New bow

new headrails- though I wish they were gold- better shape and better color transition (I think) though I am going to have make some changes to this again... see # 7 below

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6. New stern

I think I am going to go with a more classic look here... Technically the quarter deck should start just in front of the main mast and not just in front of the mizzen, but I am going for looks and not accuracy. I haven't started work on the cabin- but it will likely follow a slightly different color scheme... maybe more reddish brown? Not quite sure yet.

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7. Wider.

The whole shebang is going to be 4 studs wider than it was previously. I decide this while working on the middle of the three sections, after I redid the bow. This means the bow is now also going to be getting a make over again. The bow will also likely have to be 2-4 studs longer as well. I think this will mean another gun on the forecastle.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 05:22 PM

Awesome improvements Z! I agree the ship was too black first, but it did fit with the name Phantom. :pir-classic:
The dark red stripe on the hull is a big improvement and adds a lot of realism, the tiled deck is also very nice. The custom rigging is still nice and I'm still in awe of it's size.
The headrails are rather small compared to the large ship. They look quite fragile.
Furthermore I'd like to wish you luck updating your massive vessel! :pir-sweet:

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 06:02 PM

I hadn't seen the old ship before. Big improvement with the color change. I can't wait to see it all finished. Seems like large ships are coming out of the woodwork right now!
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 06:20 PM

The color scheme is really great, I really like the dark red. Yet another build to closely watch indeed.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:35 PM

That is imense. Is the hull all custom made? It looks like there are no usual LEGO hull pieces. I like this idea.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:49 PM

Ahh I see you used the same technique for the headrails that I first introduced on the Achille :pir-wink:
They look quite good.
The cholourscheme is a major improvement although I would have used the standard red, but regarding the discussion that came up about the scheme i use on the "Superbe", I really don't want to criticise yours. It does look good for sure. :pir-classic:

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:04 PM

View PostPerfectionist, on Oct 26 2009, 02:49 PM, said:

The cholourscheme is a major improvement although I would have used the standard red, but regarding the discussion that came up about the scheme i use on the "Superbe", I really don't want to criticise yours. It does look good for sure.


Well the original scheme was black with a little red- and the red did pop- but I needed a LOT of tiles to do the snot walls on the ship... I had a whole bunch of the dark red tiles from the pick-a-brick wall at the Mall of America. Plus I think Dark Red is my favorite color- I almost wish I had more d. red and less black- but that just isn't possible. I hope with some good lighting the ship will look great with a dark red/black/gold scheme.

On the Superbe- I like the color scheme- any other comments I will make in that thread.


View PostPerfectionist, on Oct 26 2009, 02:49 PM, said:

Ahh I see you used the same technique for the headrails that I first introduced on the Achille :pir-wink:


I don't specirfically remember that ship... I originally wanted to use some copper tubing up there but it was a little too short. Then Brickbeard's Bounty went on sale at TRU so I had extra black tubing and wen with this design.

Is yours also black? I really wish I could have done it in gold or dark red- I assume Achille is on the forum for me to take a look at.

View PostBig Cam, on Oct 26 2009, 02:35 PM, said:

That is imense. Is the hull all custom made? It looks like there are no usual LEGO hull pieces.


Those of us who have tried to make ships without using the prefabbed Lego hulls like to call them "brick-built" hulls.

The Lego hulls are only 16 studs wide (and only 12 if using the smaller ones) and the Phantom is about twice as wide as that, standard hulls just wouldn't hack it!
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 01:07 AM

This is a ship that truly deserves the adjective "fantabulous", and I mean that sincerely. I actually became a bit terrified at its scope when I realized that that was the large AT-ST :pir-oh3:

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 10:28 AM

Wow, impressive. What I like the most are the tiled deck and its size. Color is perfect. I will be around to check this in further steps of building!

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 01:37 PM

View PostMilan, on Oct 27 2009, 05:28 AM, said:

Wow, impressive. What I like the most are the tiled deck and its size. Color is perfect. I will be around to check this in further steps of building!


That's actually a MOC AT-ST. It is a lot bigger than the system AT-STs but it is smaller than the UCS one.
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:13 PM

Fantasic moc, thats really brilliant!
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:37 PM

this is awsome!!! MY ship, The Mad Dutchman is built on the standard hulls and it really is too thin, you've inspired me to careen her for an overhaul!

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 12:14 AM

This ship is magnificent, just like all your work. I can't wait to see the finished product. :pir-classic:
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 04:29 PM

Arrr! There be good comments ahead! :pir-tongue:

Almost every ship I've found thus far along Classic-Pirates.com is at the highest standard expected on EB, and this ship is certainly no exception. Make all of your enemies bow down to you.
However, when I first saw it I was awestruck by it's sheer size! Never have I seen such a large ship. Yet you say on the thread title it's a work in progress. Does this mean there will be a bigger version or just some slight detail changes?
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Posted 02 November 2009 - 03:30 PM

View Poststarwarsfanatic, on Nov 1 2009, 10:29 AM, said:

Does this mean there will be a bigger version or just some slight detail changes?



The length is about right- it mostly just needs details (like a stern) and the bow will be about 4 studs longer when I get around to fixing that!

How about that stern... well I am working on it... not sure if I like the black and gold. I wish I could go with another color- but I am not sure I know what color to use... I also wish I had a bunch of pearl gold 1x1 plates...hmmm...


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As you can see the slide outs need some work too. I think there is going to be a little sky light where the giant hole is up top- I also need to finish the back quarter with some slops- I wish I had gold slopes- but it will likely be all black :(

I could use a little help with trying to pick new colors for the cabin.

The samari sword sword is there solely to make that portion less black- I will likely replace it if I can find a better gold piece (assuming the gold stays as is)
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