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Comprehensive 10025 to 10022 Conversion List


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#1 fyparr

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 08:00 AM

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Having recently purchased the entire Sante Fe line in MISB condition, I thought I would use it as a reference to compile some lists that may be helpful to the community (and your wallet).  Following is the list originally complied by Dfenz in 2007 for converting 3 sets of 10025 to the 3 versions of 10022. I have modified it to read left to right, in the order you would add the parts to a BrickLink wanted list (type part number, select color, and then enter quantity).  I have also cross checked and cross referenced this list against my sets and BrickLink inventories, and have discovered several discrepancies, noted with an asterisk (*).  Also, the -1, -2, and -3 imply 10022-1, 10022-2, 10022-3.

The Original List

Part #, Color, Qty, Description
4459 Black 4 Technic, pin
4449 Brown 1 Minifig, utensil briefcase
4079 Brown 13 Minifig, utensil seat 2x2
3666 Dark Grey 6 Plate 1x6
3460 Dark Grey 9 Plate 1x8
2420 Dark Grey 3 Plate 2x2 corner
3020 Dark Grey 3 Plate 2x4
3031 Dark Grey 6 Plate 4x4
30357 Dark Grey 2 Plate, round corner 3x3
2921 Light Grey 6 Brick, modified 1x1 with handle
4070 Light Grey 6 Brick, modified 1x1 with headlight
6081 Light Grey 12 Brick, modified 2x4x1 1/3 curved top
3063 Light Grey 12 Brick, round corner 2x2 macaroni
4864b Light Grey 9 Panel 1x2x2 open studs
3023 Light Grey 5* Plate 1x2
3666 Light Grey 16 Plate 1x6
3022 Light Grey 11 Plate 2x2
4081b Light Grey 2 Plate, modified 1x1 with clip light
2817 Light Grey 4 Plate, modified 2x2 with hole
3040 Light Grey 2 Slope 45 2x1
3700 Light Grey 1 Technic, Brick 1x2 with hole
2877 Pearl LG 68* Brick, modified 1x2 with grill (78 in -1, 64 in -2, 76 in -3)
3899 Red 4 Minifig, utensil cup
3063 Trans-Clear 4 Brick, round corner 2x2 macaroni
4864b Trans-Clear 35* Panel 1x2x2 open studs (20 in -1, 17 in -2, 16 in -3)
4073 Trans-Green 2 Plate, round 1x1 Plate
4073 Trans-Red 1 Plate, round 1x1 Plate
4073 Trans-Yellow 2* Plate, round 1x1 Plate(4 in -1, 3 in -2, 4 in -3)
2362b White 4 Panel 1x2x3 open studs
3022 White 2 Plate 2x2
3021 White 7 Plate 2x3
3020 White 9 Plate 2x4
3660 White 2 Slope, inverted 45 2x2
6936 White 2 Tap 1x2 with dual handles
32000 White 8 Technic, Brick 1x2 with holes
3069b White 12 Tile 1x2 with groove
2431 White 4 Tile 1x4

*Discrepancies:
3023 Light Grey 5 Plate 1x2 (*one leftover from 10022-2 conversion)
-Dfenz was correct in stating you need 5, but I wanted to clarify how he got that number: You will need 3 for 10022-1, and 3 for 10022-3, however, you will have one leftover from converting a 10025 into 10022-2, bringing the total down to 5.

2877 Pearl LG 68* Brick, modified 1x2 with grill (78 in -1, 64 in -2, 76 in -3)
-Dfenz originally listed 46 needed, a difference of 22 from what I figured (78+64+76=218 - 150 [50 per set of 10025] = 68.  After checking my lists and inventories, it appears that he was counting 22 that were left over from assembling a 10025 into a baggage car.  Hence, if you already own a 10025 in baggage car form (on top of the 3 sets you bought to make your 10022) you will only need to purchase 46 more pearl light gray bricks, otherwise its 68.

4864b Trans-Clear 35* Panel 1x2x2 open studs (20 in -1, 17 in -2, 16 in -3)
-originally listed 29 needed, a difference of 6 from what I figured (20+17+16=53 – 18 [6 per set of 10025] = 35.  Again, he was counting 6 you would have left over from 10025 in baggage car form.  The same baggage car that is donating the 22 pearl bricks to your 10022s will also be donating the 6 left over trans-clear panels.  If you don’t own this car, then you will need 35.

4073 Trans-Yellow 2* Plate, round 1x1 Plate(4 in -1, 3 in -2, 4 in -3)
-originally listed 4 needed, but because of extras in the 10025s (3 total per set) you will only need 2. (4+3+4=11 – 9 [3 per 10025] = 2 needed.

The Left-Over List

I have seen some posts asking what parts you will have left over after assembling the 5 different models of the Sante Fe line.  After I built my sets, I bagged and inventoried the leftover parts, which provided me with the following list.  This may not be that handy, but by doing this I was able to check it against the BrickLink inventory, and figure out what parts are used in each of the 3 variations of 10022 (which will bring me to the final list further down the page).  A side note: you should also have 6 left over light grey 2 x 6 plates because you were smart and replaced those plates on the bottom of the cars with tiles, to clear the tracks and keep your train motors happy  :wink:

10025-1 (#606 Baggage Car)

Part#, Color, Qty, Description
4865 Brown 2 Panel 1 x 2 x 1
3021 Dark Gray 1 Plate 2 x 3
2431 Dark Gray 2 Tile 1 x 4
4162 Dark Gray 2 Tile 1 x 8
3005 Light Gray 4 Brick 1 x 1
2877 Pearl LG 22 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grill
4864b Trans-Clear 6 Panel 1 x 2 x 2 - Open Studs
4073 Trans-Yellow 1 Plate, Round 1 x 1
3004 White 2 Brick 1 x 2
3023 White 1 Plate 1 x 2
3069p01White 4 Tile, Decorated 1 x 2 w/Letter, Address and Stamp Pattern
3899 Yellow 1 Minifig, Utensil Cup

10025-2 (#1928 Mail Car)

Part#, Color, Qty, Description
4181 Light Gray 2 Train, Door 1 x 4 x 5 Left
4182 Light Gray 2 Train, Door 1 x 4 x 5 Right
4183 Trans-Clear 4 Glass for Train Door
4073 Trans-Yellow 1 Plate, Round 1 x 1

10022-1 (#503 Dining Car)

Part#, Color, Qty, Description
4735 Black 4 Bar 1 x 3 with Clip and Stud Receptacle (Robot Arm)
4459 Black 5 Technic, Pin WITH Friction Ridges Lengthwise
4449 Brown 1 Minifig, Utensil Briefcase
4079 Brown 1 Minifig, Utensil Seat 2 x 2
3023 Dark Gray 1 Plate 1 x 2
3022 Dark Gray 1 Plate 2 x 2
2420 Dark Gray 4 Plate 2 x 2 Corner
30357 Dark Gray 2 Plate, Round Corner 3 x 3
2921 Light Gray 2 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Handle
4070 Light Gray 4 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
3023 Light Gray 2 Plate 1 x 2
3666 Light Gray 1 Plate 1 x 6
4081b Light Gray 2 Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Type 2 (thick ring)
2817 Light Gray 4 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Holes
3040 Light Gray 2 Slope 45 2 x 1
3700 Light Gray 1 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Hole
4181 Light Gray 1 Train, Door 1 x 4 x 5 Left
4182 Light Gray 1 Train, Door 1 x 4 x 5 Right
3063 Trans-Clear 4 Brick, Round Corner 2 x 2 Macaroni
4183 Trans-Clear 2 Glass for Train Door
4073 Trans-Green 3 Plate, Round 1 x 1
4073 Trans-Red 2 Plate, Round 1 x 1
4073 Trans-Yellow 2 Plate, Round 1 x 1
2362b White 4 Panel 1 x 2 x 3 - Open Studs
3020 White 2 Plate 2 x 4
3069b White 8 Tile 1 x 2 with Groove
2431 White 2 Tile 1 x 4

10022-2 (#2417 Observation Car)

Part#, Color, Qty, Description
4735 Black 4 Bar 1 x 3 with Clip and Stud Receptacle (Robot Arm)
4459 Black 4 Technic, Pin WITH Friction Ridges Lengthwise
2377 Black 1 Window 1 x 2 x 2 Plane
30136 Dark Gray 3 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 Log
6091 Dark Gray 2 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 x 1 1/3 with Curved Top
3022 Dark Gray 1 Plate 2 x 2
2420 Dark Gray 2 Plate 2 x 2 Corner
3795 Dark Gray 1 Plate 2 x 6
3069b Dark Gray 1 Tile 1 x 2 with Groove
4162 Dark Gray 2 Tile 1 x 8
3005 Light Gray 8 Brick 1 x 1
3245b Light Gray 1 Brick 1 x 2 x 2 with Inside Axleholder
2921 Light Gray 4 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Handle
4070 Light Gray 2 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 with Headlight
6215 Light Gray 2 Brick, Modified 2 x 3 with Curved Top
3023 Light Gray 6 Plate 1 x 2
2817 Light Gray 4 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Holes
2877 Pearl LG 14 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grill
4864b Trans-Clear 3 Panel 1 x 2 x 2 - Open Studs
4073 Trans-Green 1 Plate, Round 1 x 1
4862 Trans-Lt Blue 1 Glass for Window 1 x 2 x 2 Plane
4073 Trans-Red 1 Plate, Round 1 x 1
4073 Trans-Yellow 3 Plate, Round 1 x 1
2362b White 4 Panel 1 x 2 x 3 - Open Studs
3022 White 1 Plate 2 x 2
3021 White 2 Plate 2 x 3
3020 White 1 Plate 2 x 4
3660 White 1 Slope, Inverted 45 2 x 2
6936 White 1 Tap 1 x 2 with Dual Handles
32000 White 4 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Holes
3069b White 7 Tile 1 x 2 with Groove
2431 White 3 Tile 1 x 4

10022-3 (#66 Sleeping Car)

Part#, Color, Qty, Description
4459 Black 1 Technic, Pin WITH Friction Ridges Lengthwise
4449 Brown 1 Minifig, Utensil Briefcase
4079 Brown 1 Minifig, Utensil Seat 2 x 2
3023 Dark Gray 1 Plate 1 x 2
3022 Dark Gray 2 Plate 2 x 2
2420 Dark Gray 3 Plate 2 x 2 Corner
30357 Dark Gray 2 Plate, Round Corner 3 x 3
2431 Dark Gray 1 Tile 1 x 4
3063 Light Gray 6 Brick, Round Corner 2 x 2 Macaroni
3023 Light Gray 2 Plate 1 x 2
3710 Light Gray 1 Plate 1 x 4
3666 Light Gray 1 Plate 1 x 6
3022 Light Gray 1 Plate 2 x 2
4081b Light Gray 2 Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Light - Type 2 (thick ring)
3040 Light Gray 2 Slope 45 2 x 1
3700 Light Gray 1 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Hole
2877 Pearl LG 2 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grill
3899 Red 2 Minifig, Utensil Cup
3063 Trans-Clear 4 Brick, Round Corner 2 x 2 Macaroni
4864b Trans-Clear 4 Panel 1 x 2 x 2 - Open Studs
4073 Trans-Green 3 Plate, Round 1 x 1
4073 Trans-Red 2 Plate, Round 1 x 1
4073 Trans-Yellow 2 Plate, Round 1 x 1

Converting 10025 into 1 of the 3 versions of 10022

This list is intended for someone who owns the entire line and wants to add another 10022-1 Dining Car #503 or 10022-3 Sleeping Car #66 to their train by converting a 10025 into their desired car, without buying the whole original list or forking out big bucks for another 10022 (I did not mention the Observation Car here because it is obviously the last car in the series, and having two observation cars wouldn’t make much sense).  This list is also handy for those who may own one or two 10022s, and wants to complete their Sante Fe line the cost effective way.  By combining Dfenz’s original list with the inventories of which parts are in each 10022, I was able to determine a list of which parts are needed for each specific 10022 model.

Parts needed to convert one 10025 into 10022-1 (#503 Dining Car)

Part#, Color, Qty, Description
4079 Brown 4 Minifig, utensil seat 2x2
3666 Dark Grey 2 Plate 1x6
3460 Dark Grey 3 Plate 1x8
3020 Dark Grey 1 Plate 2x4
3031 Dark Grey 2 Plate 4x4
2921 Light Grey 2 Brick, modified 1x1 with handle
6081 Light Grey 4 Brick, modified 2x4x1 1/3 curved top
3063 Light Grey 6 Brick, round corner 2x2 macaroni
4864b Light Grey 3 Panel 1x2x2 open studs
3023 Light Grey 3 Plate 1x2
3666 Light Grey 5 Plate 1x6
3022 Light Grey 4 Plate 2x2
2877 Pearl LG 28 Brick, modified 1x2 with grill
3899 Red 2 Minifig, utensil cup
4864b Trans-Clear 14 Panel 1x2x2 open studs
4073 Trans-Yellow 1 Plate, round 1x1 Plate
3022 White 1 Plate 2x2
3021 White 3 Plate 2x3
3020 White 2 Plate 2x4
3660 White 1 Slope, inverted 45 2x2
6936 White 1 Tap 1x2 with dual handles
32000 White 4 Technic, Brick 1x2 with holes
3069b White 1 Tile 1x2 with groove
2431 White 1 Tile 1x4

Parts needed to convert one 10025 into 10022-2 (#2417 Observation Car)

Part#, Color, Qty, Description
4449 Brown 1 Minifig, utensil briefcase
4079 Brown 5 Minifig, utensil seat 2x2
3666 Dark Grey 2 Plate 1x6
3460 Dark Grey 3 Plate 1x8
2420 Dark Grey 2 Plate 2x2 corner
3020 Dark Grey 1 Plate 2x4
3031 Dark Grey 2 Plate 4x4
30357 Dark Grey 2 Plate, round corner 3x3
4070 Light Grey 2 Brick, modified 1x1 with headlight
6081 Light Grey 4 Brick, modified 2x4x1 1/3 curved top
3063 Light Grey 6 Brick, round corner 2x2 macaroni
4864b Light Grey 3 Panel 1x2x2 open studs
3666 Light Grey 6 Plate 1x6
3022 Light Grey 4 Plate 2x2
4081b Light Grey 2 Plate, modified 1x1 with clip light
3040 Light Grey 2 Slope 45 2x1
3700 Light Grey 1 Technic, Brick 1x2 with hole
2877 Pearl LG 14 Brick, modified 1x2 with grill
3899 Red 2 Minifig, utensil cup
3063 Trans-Clear 4 Brick, round corner 2x2 macaroni
4864b Trans-Clear 11 Panel 1x2x2 open studs
4073 Trans-Green 2 Plate, round 1x1 Plate
4073 Trans-Red 1 Plate, round 1x1 Plate
3021 White 1 Plate 2x3
3020 White 3 Plate 2x4
3069b White 2 Tile 1x2 with groove

Parts needed to convert one 10025 into 10022-3 (#66 Sleeping Car)

Part#, Color, Qty, Description
4459 Black 4 Technic, pin
4079 Brown 4 Minifig, utensil seat 2x2
3666 Dark Grey 2 Plate 1x6
3460 Dark Grey 3 Plate 1x8
2420 Dark Grey 1 Plate 2x2 corner
3020 Dark Grey 1 Plate 2x4
3031 Dark Grey 2 Plate 4x4
2921 Light Grey 4 Brick, modified 1x1 with handle
4070 Light Grey 4 Brick, modified 1x1 with headlight
6081 Light Grey 4 Brick, modified 2x4x1 1/3 curved top
4864b Light Grey 3 Panel 1x2x2 open studs
3023 Light Grey 3 Plate 1x2
3666 Light Grey 5 Plate 1x6
3022 Light Grey 3 Plate 2x2
2817 Light Grey 4 Plate, modified 2x2 with holes
2877 Pearl LG 26 Brick, modified 1x2 with grill
4864b Trans-Clear 10 Panel 1x2x2 open studs
4073 Trans-Yellow 1 Plate, round 1x1 Plate
2362b White 4 Panel 1x2x3 open studs
3022 White 1 Plate 2x2
3021 White 3 Plate 2x3
3020 White 4 Plate 2x4
3660 White 1 Slope, inverted 45 2x2
6936 White 1 Tap 1x2 with dual handles
32000 White 4 Technic, Brick 1x2 with holes
3069b White 9 Tile 1x2 with groove
2431 White 3 Tile 1x4


I could take this process one step further and see how many parts it would take to make another one of the wagons with the left over parts from all 5 sets (as SavaTheAggie has pointed out in Dfenz’s original thread here). However, this would be a little more time consuming, as there are more variables and possibilities.

Hopefully this is correct, has made sense, and will be of great help to you in collecting one of Lego’s finest train collections.

Frank
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 08:28 PM

Thank you very much for doing this work, Frank! :thumbup:

Two years ago I used DFenz "instructions" to modify my 10025's, I believe your list is very helpful for those who still think of converting their cars.
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