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[Francis Marion]

a) Imperial Flagship- 79.99 USD
b) Caribbean Clipper- 69.99 USD
c) Black Seas Barracuda- 79.99 USD (No Instructions) 15.50 instructions on BL
d) Red Beard Runner- 59.99 USD

Which is the best deal in all of your opinion. I'm leaning towards BSB.

[QuartermasterRobert]

Black Seas Barracuda for the definite win. Forget buying the manual, you can read it online on at least 2 different websites for sure, for FREE.

[Mister Phes]

What condition is A, B and D in?

You'll really need to provide more information if you want an accurate answer.

Are these sets MISB? (I.e. never been opened)
Or have been they used?
If so, are they complete?
What condition are the pieces in?
Is the box included?

[Commander Red Hat]

Mister Phes, on Mar 11 2008, 10:12 AM, said:

What condition is A, B and D in?

You'll really need to provide more information if you want an accurate answer.

Are these sets MISB? (I.e. never been opened)
Or have been they used?
If so, are they complete?
What condition are the pieces in?
Is the box included?

I agree, maybe some links to the auctions would help to....
But if you ask it from this information? I say get the Barracuda *sweet*

[Joey Lock]

The BSB is a very good starter ship. Infact Its the only ship I got yet

Heres the instructions Master Robert was talking about: Click
Where are you getting these? I checked on BrickLink and there all around $169? Do you meen the Clone version?
Like Phes said we need more Info please  *sweet*

[QuartermasterRobert]

Joey Lock, on Mar 11 2008, 09:19 AM, said:

The BSB is a very good starter ship. Infact Its the only ship I got yet

Heres the instructions Master Robert was talking about: Click
Where are you getting these? I checked on BrickLink and there all around $169? Do you meen the Clone version?
Like Phes said we need more Info please  *sweet*

.... that ship doesn't look too bad, sans bootleg minifigures. But since I'm more interested in making my own figs, can't complain since they're pirates. Well, they come with those damn modern age rifles instead of muskets. What's the catch?

[Phred]

I'd say the BSB then the RBR.

BSB comes with 8 figs and four cannons with those sweet brown wheels *sweet*

and the RBR comes with one less mid-secton and on less cannon (without brown wheels) and 6 figs (i think).

It's probably a normal price for an IFS, but i'd get the BSB before the IFS if they're the same price *y*

P

[Joey Lock]

QuartermasterRobert, on Mar 11 2008, 06:12 PM, said:

.... that ship doesn't look too bad, sans bootleg minifigures. But since I'm more interested in making my own figs, can't complain since they're pirates. Well, they come with those damn modern age rifles instead of muskets. What's the catch?

I got that set, its exactly the same and more the same when you moc it. I took bits of the crew such as the tris and put them on original lego torsos.
Well with the Muskets you gotta have something in the set to prove its not a Copyrighted set havent you? If it was muskets they might be sued for copying.

Edited by Joey Lock, 11 March 2008 - 08:49 PM.

[Cardinal Brick]

While I agree with the others that we ned more information to make a good suggestion my gut suggests BSB

[Francis Marion]

Joey Lock, on Mar 11 2008, 06:19 AM, said:

The BSB is a very good starter ship. Infact Its the only ship I got yet

Heres the instructions Master Robert was talking about: Click
Where are you getting these? I checked on BrickLink and there all around $169? Do you meen the Clone version?
Like Phes said we need more Info please  *sweet*

I don't mean the clone version... It's the real thing, but missing pieces. I, however, want to make it into my first vessel and MOC. Thanks for the instructions and the links to the auctions are below. If any of you take them...

BSB
http://cgi.ebay.com/...cTODAY.m238.lVI

IFS
http://cgi.ebay.com/...7QQcmdZViewItem

and I can't find the others, they must have been bought already...

[Mister Phes]

Francis Marion, on Mar 12 2008, 12:26 PM, said:

Black Seas Barracuda Auction

It's hard to say as the set is only 85% complete and the listing doesn't specify which pieces are missing.  If you want to use the pieces for MOCing purposes then you probably don't need a box either.  Large boxes can sometimes increase the value of sets by about $20.

Francis Marion, on Mar 12 2008, 12:26 PM, said:

Imperial Flag Ship Auction

I'd say this was a reasonable price for a complete Imperial Flagship, on the proviso:
a) You don't have one
b) You want to build it as an Imperial Flagship.  If you wanted to MOC with it then I'd say it's too much just for pieces.

Francis Marion, on Mar 12 2008, 12:26 PM, said:

and I can't find the others, they must have been bought already...

They've all been bought now so that's the end of that!

[Captain Zuloo]

Francis Marion, on Mar 11 2008, 04:49 PM, said:

a) Imperial Flagship- 79.99 USD
b) Caribbean Clipper- 69.99 USD
c) Black Seas Barracuda- 79.99 USD (No Instructions) 15.50 instructions on BL
d) Red Beard Runner- 59.99 USD

Which is the best deal in all of your opinion. I'm leaning towards BSB.

Yep.BSB is a winner. Google Frames Voor LEGO Systems and you'll find the instructions on that site.
Regards, Captain Zuloo.  :-$

[Mister Phes]

Mister Phes, on Mar 12 2008, 02:13 PM, said:

They've all been bought now so that's the end of that!

My mistake - it appears the Imperial Flagship auction is still ongoing.

[gogobig]

Francis Marion, on Mar 11 2008, 02:19 AM, said:

a) Imperial Flagship- 79.99 USD
b) Caribbean Clipper- 69.99 USD
c) Black Seas Barracuda- 79.99 USD (No Instructions) 15.50 instructions on BL
d) Red Beard Runner- 59.99 USD

Which is the best deal in all of your opinion. I'm leaning towards BSB.

Black Seas Barracude is a great buy if you can catch it under hundere. As for the instructions, peeron.com offeres them there for free, so if you have a printer (color) you can get them much cheaper that way.

[Francis Marion]

Mister Phes, on Mar 11 2008, 08:13 PM, said:

It's hard to say as the set is only 85% complete and the listing doesn't specify which pieces are missing.  If you want to use the pieces for MOCing purposes then you probably don't need a box either.  Large boxes can sometimes increase the value of sets by about $20.

It came in the mail today... I'm only on about step four or five and there are already many pieces I've realized are missing. Also, the minifigs are largely incorrect and I can't seem to find all of the cannons. Also, I have no pirate set-building or MOCing experience to build a decent ship. My first dissapoinment on eBay was this one ship. It definitely was 80 USD (+20 shipping) depressingly spent.

[Steam Engineer]

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It definitely was 80 USD (+20 shipping) depressingly spent.

I would'nt worry to much about it mate, it happends, scary thing about it is you could have probably bought all the pieces for it from bricklink, built it exactly how its ment to be using the manual from peeron for a hell of alot less, i know because i'm currently working on a modded version of that ship & its nowhere near cost me that amount & mines double the size, different scheme & some slight changes but the original look is there  *sweet*

Nick  :'-)

[OnHiatus]

Francis Marion, on Mar 19 2008, 01:14 PM, said:

It came in the mail today... I'm only on about step four or five and there are already many pieces I've realized are missing. Also, the minifigs are largely incorrect and I can't seem to find all of the cannons. Also, I have no pirate set-building or MOCing experience to build a decent ship. My first dissapoinment on eBay was this one ship. It definitely was 80 USD (+20 shipping) depressingly spent.

Hey
I'm sorry to hear about that. I recently deregistered from ebay because of so much of this happening. can you make a claim on ebay because it was significantly not as described? Get an inventory list from bricklink and mark off all the pieces that are or aren't in what you got. My guess is it won't be near 85% complete and that is significantly different from what was described.
Don't count any extra pieces that may be included if they don't form part of the ship as they're useless to you building the ship.

[OnHiatus]

Francis Marion, on Mar 19 2008, 01:14 PM, said:

It came in the mail today... I'm only on about step four or five and there are already many pieces I've realized are missing. Also, the minifigs are largely incorrect and I can't seem to find all of the cannons. Also, I have no pirate set-building or MOCing experience to build a decent ship. My first dissapoinment on eBay was this one ship. It definitely was 80 USD (+20 shipping) depressingly spent.

I just had a look on bricklink and there are 876 parts to this set, so 85% is 745 pieces. Given this seller reckons they can estimate within 5% I'd say anything less than 80% means it is significantly less than described. From the pic, I'd say there's no way you're near 80% complete (701 pieces).

Good luck, and hey, you'll find far more scrupulous people here and on bricklink than ebay.

Edited by hewman, 19 March 2008 - 06:39 AM.

[Landlubber]

There's no misrepresentation in that auction listing. The seller has estimated 85% complete but hows he to know without instructions. There's a picture there of what is included and pictures do form part of descriptions.

I wouldn't be too dissapointed. You've got all the sails (which look to be in pretty good condition), all the hull pieces, 4 lots of rigging and most of those white shutter windows. The minifigs for this ship aren't anything special, they're all pretty common. The price was probably a little high but these are the risks you take when buying a set which is described as having missing parts.

Do an inventory list and get the rest of the parts off Bricklink. It's a great set and well worth it. I have about 6 of them, can't help myself when I see one at a reasonable price.

[Nikola Bathory]

I hope that this is the right place to post this topic. If not, sorry!
So: a guy is selling an Eldorado Fortress for 75 Euro. No box. Instructions included.
I don't own this set and I think it's great... But what would you say?

[Chenben]

I think it's expensive. I had a eldorado fortress few month ago for 35 euros like you without box but instructions included.

[Mister Phes]

I'd say 75 Euros is also quite expensive for an Eldorado Fortress.  If it had a pristine box and instructions then I'd say maybe, but only if you were a die hard collector that appreciated those extras.

Realistically I'd say 60 Euros is the maximum you'd want to pay.  If you're buying from Europe you probably could get for around 30-40 Euros from Belgium, France, Germany if you're prepared to spend time shopping around.

[Nikola Bathory]

Thanks for helping!
After a short bargain with the seller, he agreed on 60 euro.
So, within the next several days I will own an Eldorado Fortress!!    

[Mister Phes]

Well done!  You should be very pleased with your Eldorado Fortress - it is 100% complete right?

[Cardinal Brick]

That’s a better price I hope you enjoy your fortress!