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  1. I'm sorry I can't seem to decide just how cool it is (7 votes [10.14%])

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  2. soooooo cool (5 votes [7.25%])

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  3. Outstanding (22 votes [31.88%])

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  4. Truly amazing, best idea ever! (20 votes [28.99%])

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  5. I truly can't live life without it! (15 votes [21.74%])

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#1 I Scream Clone

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:32 AM

Castle Community Build
Hi to all Castle enthusiasts, welcome to the Eurobricks Community Castle Build.
Basically we are constructing a walled city with everyday life featured on the inside of these Castle walls. Some of the most creative minds from Eurobricks are involved in what should be a great team exercise. Feel free to sign up or simply comment on any aspect of this project. After all its my your group build  :laugh:

69 Modules and counting!

Guidelines:
You may join at anytime, just post here and we will see you into a team
-Must be keen on Community discussion to build a Castle together
-Should have at least enough light grey to build the wall of your castle section to specifications, see bottom of post for wall dimensions.
-Love to MOC (though this is a given) and give and take constructive criticism too
-Follow the size restrictions per entry as per the castle layout below (thanks to Thrash)
-Be willing to build your modules within a few months of signing up for one of the choices (some people are busy, we understand that)
-Registration is open to any member, regardless of no. of posts etc. Hey we even have a Mod or too signed up!
-Obey all the relevant Forum rules as set out by Eurobricks.
-Images no larger than 800 x 600 please, and maximum of 5 per module unless you post smaller images like Sandy.
-If you have an idea of another structure that would be good to have in the EBCCB, let us know and we can add it to the list.
-More than one person may build a module, we will have a vote off to decide which is prefered. Eventually we will probably have multiples of each anyway.
-Please post your pictures in your team thread, though you may post one pic in the discussion topic.
-Thrash will handle the thumbnail pics, but please post a link to your gallery.
-Most importantly, have fun


Im loving all the great entries so far guys and gals.


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Community Build Index:
Team Alpha Group Build Topic
Team Beta Group Build Topic


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Phase 2

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Final Complete Design (external castle wall)
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Internal wall modules on sides of Keep and back-to-back wall modules.
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Keep Hallway design basics
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Rooftop design
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Props to Thrash for all the Architect stuff too! :thumbup:

This is the standard for exterior castle wall, please adhere as close to this as possible. Some detailing etc is allowed, however placement on the baseplate and technic pins at 1, 6 and 11 high are necessary.

Roofing may be any colour type you like as each structure is different in the walled city  :grin:

D1. Money Changer
D2. Fish Monger/Thieves Guild
D3. Tavern
D4. Dock
D5. Out-house
D6. Brothel w/ Alley Way
D7. Opium Den
D8. Witch's Hut
D9. Gambling Den
D10. Guard Post
D11. Alchemist
D12. Barbershop
I1. Tanner
I2. Mason's Guild
I3. Siege Factory
I4. Carpenter
I5. Silversmith
I6. Glazier
I7. Lumberjack Lodge
I8.
I9. Poleturner
I10. Blacksmith
I11. Fletcher
I12.
I13. Dyer
I14. Tapestry Weaver
I15. Guard Post
I16. Chandler
I17. Cooper
C1. Adventurer's Guild
C2. Doctor
C3. Tournament Grounds
C4. Animal Pen
C5. Butcher
C6. Cadger's Menagerie
C7. Wizard's Guild
C8. Amphitheater
C9. Actor's Guild
C10. Vegetable Patch
C11. Apothecary
C12. Mystery Play
C13. Chapel
C14. Monastary
C15. Graveyard
C16. Guard Post
C17. Bakery
C18. Jester's Joke Shop
C19. Jeweler
M1. Armory
M2. Stables
M3. Wall Repairs
M4. Oil Smelter
M5. Barracks
M6. Wall under Siege
M7. Fighters Guild
M8. Fighting Arena
M9. Archery Range
M10. Training Ground
M11. Elvin Archer's Barracks
G1. Church
G2. Tax Collector
G3. Crownie Secret Service Tower
G4. Falconry Mew
G5. Gate from Military w/ Guard Post
G6. Troll Embassy
G7. Skeleton Embassy
G8. Wolfpack Embassy
G9. Black Falcon Embassy
G10. Forestmen's Treehouse
G11. Dungeon
G12. Torture Chamber
G13. Alley-way
G14. Dwarven Embassy
G15. Bank
G16. Gate from Civilian
G17. Memorial

O1. Main Gatehouse
O2. Back Gatehouse
O3. Siege Camp

K1. Courtyard
K2. Gatehouse (2 stories) and drawbridge
K3. Servant's Quarters
K4. Buttery
K5. Kitchen
K6. Entrance Hall w/ Great Staircase (2 stories)
K7. Wine Cellar
K8. Library
K9. Guest Chambers
K10. Guest Chambers
K11. Lying In Chamber
K12. Garderobe
K13. Royal Armory
K14. War Room
K15. Knight's Quarters
K16. Stairwell (2 stories)
K17. Dining Hall
K18. Princess' Chamber
K19. Prince's Chamber
K20. Queen's Chamber
K21. King's Chamber
K22. Chamberlain's Quarters
K23. Throne Room
K24. Royal Jail
K25. Royal Torture Chamber w/ Staircase to Roof (2 stories)
K26. Treasury
K27. Wizard Tower
K28. Illuminator's Room
K29. Jester's Quarters
R1. NW Tower
R2. Platform 1
R3. Platform 2
R4. Platform 3
R5. SE Tower
R6. Platform 4
R7. Platform 5
R8. Platform 6
R9. SW Tower
R10. Platform 7

Options
  Acrobat, Architect
  Armorer, Artist, Astrologer
  Barrister, Bookbinder
  Bowyer, Bricklayer
  Candlemaker, Carpenter, Cartographer
  Clothier, Diplomat
  Engineer, Engraver
  Farmer, Fisherman, Forester
  Fortune-Teller, Furrier, Gardener
  Grain Merchant, Gravedigger
  Herald, Herbalist, Hunter
  Interpreter,
  Jeweler, Leatherworker, Locksmith
  Messenger, Miner, Minstrel
  Navigator, Painter
  Peddler,
  Politician, Potter, Rat Catcher
  Sailor, Scribe, Servant
  Shipwright, Shoemaker, Spy
  Storyteller, Weaver

Here are the first two teams drawn randomly from a hat. Next to each name will be your build preference. I would like to see all discussion taking place in this topic. New members are assigned as they come in to even the group numbers.

Dragonator (Group Alpha Leader)
Erdbeeries1
Stol
Pickerel
Wouwie
Adam
Quarryman
Guss
Dan Church
Lalande
jifel
Legoking
Pedro
Jimbutcher
Josh
Matn
castlestrike666
Agersborg
Zepher
Waterbrick Down
*Jerry Man*
Lt. De Martinet


ISC (Group Beta Leader)
Sandy
Stash2sixx
Thrash
Captain Green Hair
LasseD
randomparrot
Skipper24
Buttons
Glorious Shadow
Dennimator
Genaral armendariz
Arawos
3d Brickthing
CastleLord
darkagent
Cap'n Blackmoor
Newright
stenertje
Etzel
Sir Dillon


Cheers
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Team Alpha MOC's

Stol, livin next door to Thrash
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Erdbeereis, Beta boy!
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Lalande, Every Castle needs a Queen
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jifel, dissappeared, come back
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Guss, Eyepatches in Medieval times?
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Josh, not rude at all
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Matn, we want more
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Castlestrike666, keep em coming
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JimButcher, the dark side
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Waterbrick Down, off and running
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*Jerry Man*
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Lt. De Martinet
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Pedro
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:48 PM

Team Beta MOCs

ISC, Team Leader and Supreme Overlord CCB Commander

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Thrash, unstoppable

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Sandy, Champion

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LasseD, outside the square

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Dennimator, ooohh, shiny

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darkagent, BL on speed dial

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stenertje

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:53 PM

This sounds like a great idea, ISC! I may even volunteer! I've been wanting to build a Blacksmith's forge for a long time...

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:54 PM

[Raises hand]
Count me in for the first run :thumbup:
A 16x16 size sounds good to me.
Are we going to make this "attachable" like the rules defined for other modular builds?
I'm thinking in same dimensions as the dimensions of for example space stations on Classic-Space or Castle modules on Classic-Castle?
I'm an all Fantasy kind of guy, so if the general mood is that this is to be historically correct, then I'll take my leave (no offense meant and none will be taken).
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:58 PM

View PostKimT, on Oct 9 2008, 08:54 AM, said:

[Raises hand]
Count me in for the first run :thumbup:
A 16x16 size sounds good to me.
Are we going to make this "attachable" like the rules defined for other modular builds?
I'm thinking in same dimensions as the dimensions of for example space stations on Classic-Space or Castle modules on Classic-Castle?
I'm an all Fantasy kind of guy, so if the general mood is that this is to be historically correct, then I'll take my leave (no offense meant and none will be taken).
Great idea ISC :classic:

Well lets face it all Lego is fantasy based, and historically correct sounds like a lot of work  :laugh:
Probably best to make them modular to some extent.
Perhaps each topic is put out to the community first to determine what attributes each build has to have. Example Blacksmith cottage must have fire place, anvil, quench etc.

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:59 PM

I like this idea. Count me in for this, although I would like to know a bit more about whatever standards for linearity there are.

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:01 PM

That sounds great, count me in! Though i'm not sure what to exactly buld yet, i'd very much like to be in.

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:01 PM

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What I am proposing is for 3 to 5 people to put there hands up to build a portion of a Castle. For example the first challenge could be a corner tower or blacksmith forge etc. Say they each get maximum of a month to build and submit their MOC and then the community decides which of the three they like. Then the next 3 to 5 volunteers can build the next part.

This is such a great idea, ISC, but if we contend and build something (and "win"), are we supposed to actually attach it in real-life afterwards? Or only by posting pics?
I mean that, after the contest is over, shouldn't we in some or other way, put these builded parts together in one large castle?

I think that would be neat, especcialy considering the many different building styles that would be used.

I will await more intel before I will consider posting my entry for a builders position, since I already have too few time rebuilding my original Lego sets and my Napo-army....

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:08 PM

I think this'll outgrow the initial idea of 3 to 5 members.
Perhaps a rearrangement might prove useful:
Here's what I suggest as an idea for a community build.
We subdivide different things to be build on 16x16 baseplates (towers, walls, gates, blacksmith, stables and so forth)
Each thing get a discussion topic and a post your finished MOC topic.
In the end of the period, a poll for each thing is made, deciding which on to add to the Community MOC.
I'll gladly be the one making and maintaining an index gathering all the strings.

How does that sound?


View Postzorro3999, on Oct 8 2008, 10:01 PM, said:

This is such a great idea, ISC, but if we contend and build something (and "win"), are we supposed to actually attach it in real-life afterwards? Or only by posting pics?
I mean that, after the contest is over, shouldn't we in some or other way, put these builded parts together in one large castle?

I think that would be neat, especcialy considering the many different building styles that would be used.

I will await more intel before I will consider posting my entry for a builders position, since I already have too few time rebuilding my original Lego sets and my Napo-army....

:thumbup: for those that contend and for the Clonescreamer !
Perhaps someone with an accesive amount of pieces could remake each model and make a photo session on it?

View PostI Scream Clone, on Oct 8 2008, 09:58 PM, said:

Well lets face it all Lego is fantasy based, and historically correct sounds like a lot of work  :laugh:
Probably best to make them modular to some extent.
Perhaps each topic is put out to the community first to determine what attributes each build has to have. Example Blacksmith cottage must have fire place, anvil, quench etc.
That's a splendid idea. Which would suit perfectly in the discussion topics
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:10 PM

That does sound very good KimT, i was thinking about the same. First we should have a discussion/poll which things exactly are needed or wanted for the castle and then create extra threads for each "castle part" that should be built with polls added which decide what creations will make it to the final castle.

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:11 PM

View PostKimT, on Oct 9 2008, 09:06 AM, said:

I think this'll outgrow the initial idea of 3 to 5 members.
Perhaps a rearrangement might prove useful:
Here's what I suggest as an idea for a community build.
We subdivide different things to be build on 16x16 baseplates (towers, walls, gates, blacksmith, stables and so forth)
Each thing get a discussion topic and a post your finished MOC topic.
In the end of the period, a poll for each thing is made, deciding which on to add to the Community MOC.
I'll gladly be the one making and maintaining an index gathering all the strings.

How does that sound?



Perhaps someone with an accesive amount of pieces could remake each model and make a photo session on it?

Now we are getting somewhere  :thumbup: I wasn't sure how big it was going to get, but agree that subdividing would be more fruitful as well as quicker to get all sections built.
There is also Zorro's question about combining each build later, and I think if you are happy with your final build you could then reverse engineer to make instructions for others by disassembling it 10 -15 pieces per photo too. Just a thought. :classic:

Also I will start to put a list into my first post of interested people, and we could PM you when its up and running.

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:13 PM

Sounds good to me KimT, it has more of a community feel to it, and its not far from the original idea!

As for my participitation, I will certainly vote and be merry, I may put my name in the buidling hat and crank something out, it would be great fun but I would have to order parts and such, so we will see where my money supply is at.  Is there a due date for when people have to be signed up by?

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:16 PM

View Postmetalandi, on Oct 8 2008, 10:10 PM, said:

That does sound very good KimT, i was thinking about the same. First we should have a discussion/poll which things exactly are needed or wanted for the castle and then create extra threads for each "castle part" that should be built with polls added which decide what creations will make it to the final castle.
I am not sure a poll is needed.
We ought to just discuss and agree what is to be part of any given module. - Mostly those intending on participating would have an opinion and therefore reaching a mutual agreement on the included things would be better than forcing someone to add things he/she disagrees with.


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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:18 PM

View PostKimT, on Oct 9 2008, 12:13 AM, said:

I am not sure a poll is needed.
We ought to just discuss and agree what is to be part of any given module. - Mostly those intending on participating would have an opinion and therefore reaching a mutual agreement on the included things would be better than forcing someone to add things he/she disagrees with.

Dear all,

I would like to contribute as well, but I'm currently a bit "overstretched" financially and timewise by my own MOCs.
But my current castle consist out of modules of 20x20 and 16x16. So I could contribute something design wise?
Although I'm not sure if I want to destroy them in favour of re-engineering.  :sceptic:
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:23 PM

View PostKimT, on Oct 8 2008, 10:16 PM, said:

I am not sure a poll is needed.
We ought to just discuss and agree what is to be part of any given module. - Mostly those intending on participating would have an opinion and therefore reaching a mutual agreement on the included things would be better than forcing someone to add things he/she disagrees with.


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Yes i agree now, that would be better.

So, my first question would be, how these creations rawly should look. Should they bey be complete rooms with 4 walls, doors and a roof, or just the interior and say, 2 walls? that's the thing which intersts me the most at the moment. :classic:

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:33 PM

I think we should make an attachable rule.
For example:
Each module is to be built on a 16x16 baseplate.
A 2x2 brick with a technic pin hole shall be placed on two opposing sides of the baseplate, leaving 7 studs free for building on each side of the brick.
Another 2x2 brick with a technic pin hole is to be placed 5 bricks higher and directly above the first placed 2x2 brick with a technic pin hole. Making it a total height of 6 bricks from the baseplate counting both 2x2 bricks and the space between.
No overhang is allowed over the sides of the 16x16 baseplate where the 2x2 bricks with technic pin holes are placed.
That should allow a lot of imagination and ideas to still be carried out.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:37 PM

Sounds good, after all that is the standard on most castle sets, so it works pretty well  :classic:

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:42 PM

Sounds like a good solution to me. I just rawly built what you described, so it is clear for everybody where to put the hole brcks and how high t should be. I hope i did understand it right myself too :tongue:

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:45 PM

View Postmetalandi, on Oct 8 2008, 10:42 PM, said:

Sounds like a good solution to me. I just rawly built what you described, so it is clear for everybody where to put the hole brcks and how high t should be. I hope i did understand it right myself too :tongue:

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Close, but no cigar :tongue:
I meant the technic hole bricks should be in the bottom (as in the pic)
And another as brick no6 counting from the bottom. A flip of the 2 bricks in the top is needed for the pic to be correct.
This is NOT a rule yet, just an idea we're discussing.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:46 PM

I'll add my name to the list, it'll be a nice little challenge, if I can ever bring myself to pull apart my almost complete castle MOC. Although if it's not starting for a while, then that'll give me a chance to do a few bricklink orders. :grin:

Oh, and metalandi, I think you've got the top two bricks around the wrong way...

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Just one brick taller.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:50 PM

You are right, my mistake. :tongue:

So what is left is, how to build the sides, and if there should be a roof or not. I think it could be difficult to build a roof that fits to all other castle parts in the end, as everybody might have his own thoughts on that. If a roof is being built i think the best would be to make it modular style so you are able to access the room from above (like the green grocer roof and floors for example). What do you think?

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:57 PM

Perhaps we should agree on how wide it's allowed to be in the ends?
For example look at my posted pic a few posts back.
The width is 4 studs, if we agree on a common width, then it would be easier making the modules fit each other.
Also a max heigth on the last 1-2 studs from the sides and inwards might be useful.
For example:
The first 2 studs (counting from the 1x2 bricks with technic pin holes) may not be taller than 10 bricks.

This would leave the issue of wether or not a catwalk is intended.
If a catwalk is intended are we then allowed to "cut" it? One could built the catwalk 1 or 2 studs in on the baseplate and then stop or "cut" it with a roof or tower.
Would that be ok?
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#25 metalandi

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 11:05 PM

The first part is pretty clear to me, but what do you mean with catwalk?



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