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Mar 28 2008, 08:50 AM
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![]() It's no good captain i canny reach!!! Group: Eurobricks Fellows Posts: 756 Joined: 13-February 05 From: Calabasas, California Member No.: 226
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Space Skulls Reviewed by Dunamis
Set 10192 956 Pieces $99.95 from The LEGO Store (Glendale, CA) Build time 3.0 hours If there is one thing that really chaps the hide of the Star Justice (set 10191, reviewed here ->10191 Review ) commanders it is those rotten, down and dirty scoundrels, the Space Skulls! Nothing strikes fear in the average Classic Space citizen like seeing one of the 3vil Skullships bearing down on the family picnic to cause havoc and general mayhem. For my second review in three days I’m quite excited to review the 3vil Space Skulls creator set designed by Mark Sandlin. I think LEGO has done a great job in letting some of the best and brightest from the community add to the lineup of great sets we have for this year. So, let’s see what those baddies have been up to lately… The Box: Again, a standard creator type compact box with the familiar style. I was incorrect in my earlier review of 10191 when I said the back of the box was the same as the 10192 set. In fact, they are different (but very similar). Inside, we have 11 bags, two manuals and one sticker sheet. The Manuals: The manuals are slightly shorter than the 10191 set, checking in at 28 and 48 long. Strangely absent are inspiration photos for other Space Skull vehicles that could be made from this set. However, from discussions on this board it sounds like these will be coming in the future. Nothing new to report on the manuals as they provide the LEGO standard of high quality and features we expect. - Piece callouts - Models divided into sections - Large images - Page numbers Parts inventory: Random manual image: The Pieces: I love the color scheme Mark chose for the 3vil faction. You will immediately notice a lot of red, black and white pieces of all types. Of particular interest is all of the black articulating arm segments (I might have just made up that term) that make up the tentacles on the skullships. There must be over 100 of them. Also, you will notice quite a few trans-red pieces and lots of little pieces in general. Yes, we have already beat to death the fact that we do get a sticker sheet. The stickers have a clear background so that you can apply them to (almost) any color tile or torso. To me, they feel different than the usual LEGO sticker so maybe these will be better quality. These stickers are applied to tiles and minifig torsos. Here are a couple of examples of a control panel tiles: Here is a 2x1 sized control panel sticker that gets applied on a 4x1 tile. It might be interesting to know the decision process on why a 4x1 sized sticker could not be made (since it goes on a 4x1 sized tile). Just curious. Here is a Space Skull logo on a modified slope tile (I think that is what this piece is): And some skull stickers on 2x2 tiles: It is worth noting that we do get some printed pieces (actually a lot of the 2x2 round tiles) as seen below: The Minifigs: In this set, we get four 3vil Space Skull baddies: And when we apply the ever-so-simple stickers we get these dudes: Doh! Son of a #$^@, I screwed up the second guy on the left! Don’t try to pull it back off and re-align it because it’s on there! Oh well. Notice that we get a commander-type guy and three minions. Perhaps that is 3vil Grand Admiral Sandlin? Or perhaps it is this guy: ![]() Another burning question is why do undead 3vil skeleton guys need helmets with visors? These things keep me up at night… Bottom line is we get four minifigs (with helmets and visors) but you need to be careful applying the stickers. There were no additional minions (like the robots in 10191). The Build: The build is nicely paced and with the helpful instructions, feel free to jump to whichever vehicle you want to build first. There were no issues or gotchas. Building the large skull is quite a treat. There are some fantastic SNOT techniques in there that you have to experience to appreciate. The photos won’t really do it justice: Here are more SNOT techniques: Some parts of the build were a bit odd in that there were steps where you take three 2x1 trans-red plates and stack them together to essentially make a brick. I can only assume this is LEGO telling Mark it is cheaper to include three plates than one brick. See below: Then, you get to stack the just-made bricks to make a larger ‘window’: Not sure about that one… Here is what is left over: The Design: This well-designed theme is fun and has lots of detail. Here are some examples: Laser cannon: Rockets and beam weapons: Adjustable thrusters: Here are the four ships: Tentacle Skull Drone (I’m making up these names by the way…) Skull Interceptor I love the landing gear on this ship and that the bottom set of teeth act as front landing gear. These teeth also fold up to bite (see photo). In addition, the head opens up for the pilot (this is where the crooked sticker guy goes.) Skull Gunship Skull Commander This thing is much bigger than it looks. It is also very sturdy and the tentacles articulate well. It is solidly built and my favorite of the four. Here is the fleet: And both sets together: Overall Thoughts: A really cool set that compliments the Star Justice set nicely. Both themes fit well together and offer a lot of playability. These vehicles are very well designed and are very swooshable. Doesn’t have as many accessories as 10191 (air tanks, etc.) and is lacking additional sub-minifigs (i.e. the robots from 10191). Leaves you feeling like there should be a little more for the price. The detail is outstanding and really brings out the feel of the 3vil Skull theme. You have to appreciate what Mark has done to get four great vehicles with this amount of detail while staying inside the constraints of LEGO Digital Designer. I get the feeling we will never know the number of changes he had to make to cut costs here and there. I’d love to see what his original plans were. Given the price would I buy it again? Of course! Not only for the unique vehicles (I have nothing else like them on my shelf) but also to support the AFOL community and the LDD plan. I hope to see more of Mark’s designs and hopefully some alternate models. Final Rating: 82% Build 10/10 (Excellent – Very well done, sturdy, playable. Several SNOT techniques used.) Minifigs 7/10 (Only four minifigs, no sub-minifig theme) Design 10/10 (Excellent – really brings you into the 3vil skull theme. Nice functionality.) Parts 7/10 (Lots of trans-red and tentacle arms. Small parts galore.) Price 7/10 (OK parts-price ratio. Lots and lots of small or the same parts. Still feels overpriced.) I did catch myself comparing this set to 10191. I kind of felt like I had two as they are somewhat complimentary. Keep in mind they both stand on their own very well, but are even better together. As usual, please provide your input, comments, complaints, etc. -------------------- So much LEGO, so little time...
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Mar 28 2008, 09:17 AM
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![]() You Are Not Alone! Group: Global Moderator Posts: 7431 Joined: 31-December 07 From: Singapore, Asia Member No.: 2351
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Wow, great review! Thanks for the effort u had done for us in these 3 days! Now, i will have a clearer picture on this set too. The skull spaceship really looks nice and unqiue. The cons is just the stickers, other than that, it's really very cool to have!
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Mar 28 2008, 10:13 AM
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![]() Pirate lover Group: Eurobricks Counts Posts: 1134 Joined: 13-October 07 From: Belgium Member No.: 2084
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Thank you very much, nice review and pictures. Personally, I think this set is better without the skull stickers on the spaceskullships.
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Mar 28 2008, 10:30 AM
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![]() Has serious Xmas Raffle hangover Group: Eurobricks Fellows Posts: 2861 Joined: 4-January 05 From: ABS all the way! Member No.: 148
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Thanks dunamis for yet another heavy review
The set looks well constructed with a lot of nice technices used. But this is not my cup of RB. I don´t fancy the tentacle look on the ships. But the stickered skulls are cool! copmike -------------------- |
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Mar 28 2008, 10:56 AM
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![]() Purist Tasmanian bat Group: Eurobricks Fellows Posts: 5135 Joined: 27-August 07 From: Tasmania, Australia Member No.: 1917
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Thankyou a heap for this review Dunamis, i simply love this set, and hope I can get it! It has better parts than the Star Justice I think, though they are both excellent. anyone know the price in AU? I hope not too much, I'd hate to miss out on this fantastic set.
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Mar 28 2008, 11:12 AM
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![]() Eurovision !! Group: Eurobricks Knights Posts: 724 Joined: 11-March 06 From: greece-cyprus Member No.: 689 |
thanx for a great review!
i love the solid design in this set. nothing looks fragile thow there are a lot of small pieces. lots and lots of smart techniques! i hope someday to be able and afford this set along with star justice. this line is the first space line i consider in years (since i am mostly into city) i also would like to see more of the preliminary design for both these sets. |
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Mar 28 2008, 11:30 AM
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![]() Group: Eurobricks Citizen Posts: 278 Joined: 26-June 06 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 832 |
Thank you very much, nice review and pictures. Personally, I think this set is better without the skull stickers on the spaceskullships. I think you're right. When your whole ship is the shape of a skull, a skull sticker seems a little redundant!Thanks for the reviews Dunamis. I love these sets and I can't wait to get hold of them! -------------------- Shameless Self-Promotion - Flickr Gallery, Lego Factory Gallery, Lego Collection, Latest Mocs - Cars, Caravans... and a Dalek?!, Military Mocs, Latest purchase - 6187 Road Construction Set,
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Mar 28 2008, 01:18 PM
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![]() Group: Eurobricks Vassals Posts: 52 Joined: 27-February 08 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Member No.: 2815 |
Thanks for the review!
Some parts of the build were a bit odd in that there were steps where you take three 2x1 trans-red plates and stack them together to essentially make a brick. I can only assume this is LEGO telling Mark it is cheaper to include three plates than one brick. Well, unfortunately in this instance, it was the only trans-red element I could use. I really didn't want to have to put solid red brick in there or try to SNOT the 1x2 plates on somehow and lose the transparent effect. I wanted to preserve as much of the trans-red look as possible, so this is what I decided to go with. I would much rather have had some 1x2 brick or even some trans red thin walls. Just as an FYI, these trans neon green 2x2 rounds are not necessary to the design of the fighter. LEGO added them so the model would pass the heat test. Personally, I suggest removing them since the model stands up just fine on the landing gear. Just don't put it in the oven.
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Mar 28 2008, 01:26 PM
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![]() Pirate lover Group: Eurobricks Counts Posts: 1134 Joined: 13-October 07 From: Belgium Member No.: 2084
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I think you're right. When your whole ship is the shape of a skull, a skull sticker seems a little redundant! Thanks for the reviews Dunamis. I love these sets and I can't wait to get hold of them! Yeah, the design of those skullships are awesome! But it's a bit silly and unnecesary to put a skull sticker on a skull. I like the stickers for MOCs. But the skullships without them look just fine. Me wantz them. -------------------- |
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Mar 28 2008, 02:13 PM
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![]() Group: Eurobricks Counts Posts: 1031 Joined: 20-October 06 From: Dublin, Ireland Member No.: 1040 |
Great review dunamis. Some interesting pieces in this set :)
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Mar 28 2008, 02:21 PM
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![]() Group: Eurobricks Citizen Posts: 157 Joined: 19-December 07 From: USofAplace Member No.: 2303
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No, too many good sets coming out at the same time, I can't decide! Thanks for the review, very informative and interesting.
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Mar 28 2008, 02:24 PM
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![]() Member Title Just Got Smurfed Again! Group: Eurobricks Fellows Posts: 1268 Joined: 25-October 05 From: Far From Home Member No.: 518
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All reservations I previously had about this set are gone. I guess I just needed to see some "real world" pictures. It looks fun as hell
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Mar 28 2008, 04:28 PM
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![]() Group: Eurobricks Counts Posts: 1081 Joined: 2-January 08 From: The Original OC!! Member No.: 2375 |
Thanks for the (nicely done) review!! I'm definitely getting this set!! That opening jaw on the ship was the clincher for me...
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Mar 28 2008, 04:47 PM
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![]() It's no good captain i canny reach!!! Group: Eurobricks Fellows Posts: 756 Joined: 13-February 05 From: Calabasas, California Member No.: 226
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Thanks for the review! Well, unfortunately in this instance, it was the only trans-red element I could use. I really didn't want to have to put solid red brick in there or try to SNOT the 1x2 plates on somehow and lose the transparent effect. I wanted to preserve as much of the trans-red look as possible, so this is what I decided to go with. I would much rather have had some 1x2 brick or even some trans red thin walls. Thanks for the reply. This makes a lot of sense and thanks for sharing the design decision with us. I'm fascinated with the whole design to making it a retail set process. Although I suspect that once you go through that process (especially with your own creations) the process becomes somewhat less fascinating... QUOTE Just as an FYI, these trans neon green 2x2 rounds are not necessary to the design of the fighter. LEGO added them so the model would pass the heat test. Personally, I suggest removing them since the model stands up just fine on the landing gear. Just don't put it in the oven. Noted! Thanks for sharing that as well. I was wondering what those were for and you are right, they are not needed. -------------------- So much LEGO, so little time...
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Mar 28 2008, 06:35 PM
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![]() Academy Teacher Group: Eurobricks Dukes Posts: 3236 Joined: 27-May 07 From: Michigan- Mobilize! Member No.: 1621
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Thanks again! I don't think I will get this set, as it is costly, and I would rather have the classic space set.
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