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Which would you buy - The Caribbean Clipper or Red Beard Runner?


37 replies to this topic  – Started by Big T , Feb 21 2008 09:32 AM

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Which of these ships would you BUY?

  1. Caribbean Clipper (40 votes [58.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.82%

  2. Red Beard Runner (28 votes [41.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.18%

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#1 Big T

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 09:32 AM

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Which would you buy - The Caribbean Clipper or Red Beard Runner?


Ok, I've been interested in LEGO Pirates for a long time now, but in Australia (as I'm sure some of you can relate) finding them these days are a pain, especially at a good price. Well at this stage there are two on ebay I'm sizing up, but can only really afford to buy one of them. So basically it's a choice between the Carribean Clipper, and the Red Beard Runner. I'm leaning towards the Clipper, but I'm basing this off pics, and those who own them may be able to help me decide. Which is the better one, and preferably say why so I have something to go by.

Thank you for your help guys

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 09:57 AM

I'm not a big fan of the Caribbean Clipper and I have two of those built, sitting on my shelf.  I have a Red Beard Runner still in the box so I can't compare them side by side.  But if I were to purchase either of them I'd go for the Red Beard Runner...

Other factors you might consider are whether the sets are complete and what condition the pieces are in.  Also, do you care about whether the box or instructions are included?   These can significantly add to final price.


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Posted 21 February 2008 - 10:31 AM

No hard decision in my opinion.

I would prefer the Red Beard Runner. I bought this ship a few month ago. It has such nice details, there´s a monkey and a shark and the figs are also nice. The Red Beard is bigger (?), has more pieces and the overall looking is better.

The only negative thing could be the price...

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 08:13 PM

It looks a little to me like you're looking for any kind of ship; in this case, I wouldn't recommend the CC as it can be very expensive, as it is a collectors item and also quite rare, as Imperial Soldier collectors snap these up. These can reach nearly £40 in price, so you would be better off buying the BSB for a similar amount, if you browse a little and are quite patient.
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-Looking at these two ships, the CC seems much better built, but it lacks the overall effect of the RBR; instead it looks rather like half a BSB. The RBR has 2 hull sections (the only ship to do so) but seems much larger and fuller than the CC. It also has a wider variety of pieces, such as the white "rib" pieces.

It would seem this question is asking to differentiate between Classic pirates and Playable pirates - the CC has no action features but a more reallistic and toned look, whereas the RBR is designed to terrorise the high seas; it is more swashbuckling than the CC...it fits in with the Islander, Armada and later pirates sets well, hence the collapsing mast and stern.

Ideally I would opt for a different ship, but of the two, I would choose the RBR because it is more "complete" and has more MOCing capabilities. For the same price, you get more. Way more!  X-D
However I would buy a CC, but only as an afterthought... ;-)

Edited by SlyOwl, 21 February 2008 - 09:46 PM.

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#5 Mister Phes

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 08:20 PM

We could add a poll to this thread for a visual representation of opinion


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Posted 22 February 2008 - 08:43 PM

I'd go with the Red Beard Runner, personally...in fact, I did myself.

The Red Beard Runner was my second pirate ship, and I loved it so much that I bought another one on eBay a couple years ago ($70, MISB!!!!).  It's one of the few ships that you can still find for the original retail price (at least in the US, not sure about Australia).
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Posted 23 February 2008 - 06:55 AM

Thanks for the comment guys, seems like you all think the Red Beard Runner is the better choice. If it stays within my price range I reckon I'll finally pick up my first ship.

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 07:14 AM

I highly recommend the Caribbean Clipper(CC) , for its classic collectible figs, great ship design, excellent figurehead, shooting cannons, and overall beauty  *wub*

The redbeard runner is flimsy, juniorized with lots of collapsing crap and the sails are too high making it look wierd. All that plus the annoying skull on the sail make that set a very bad choice for a first ship   :-X

Thats just my opinion though  ;-)  

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 04:34 PM

I'd definetly go with the clipper, blue figs, old school windows, brown hull instead of red...should i go on? :-D
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Posted 27 February 2008 - 02:08 AM

It really depends on how much you are willing to spend but the redbeard runner has more pieces  so if you wanted to modify, it would be the better option.

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It really depends on how much you are willing to spend but the redbeard runner has more pieces  so if you wanted to modify, it would be the better option.

sorry i meant the Caribbean Cliper. I wasn't thinking about what I was writing. 8-|

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Posted 27 February 2008 - 02:53 PM

Since we haven't had a poll topic lately I've turned this thread into a poll.

So for those who have posted, you can also cast a vote as well!


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Posted 27 February 2008 - 03:18 PM

I voted for the Red Beard Runner. Reasons? See my post above  *sweet*


Thanks Mr. Phes for the poll.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:14 PM

Oh you're quite welcome Legocastlegirl!

My Red Beard Runner arrived today so I'm in the process of building it.


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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:51 PM

The runner has more play focus. I don't think its as sturdy a ship as the clipper. Though I have to admit I'm very biased in favor of the clipper for sentimental reasons. I do think the clipper would be better, if it had another small sail on the back.

The runner has some nice parts, which can only be had in that set though.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 07:11 PM

i don't think that's a fair poll. you need caribbean clipper for different reasons from a RBR. i would compare RBR with a BSB and SES as they are all pirate ships of similar size and caliber. in that comparison, i think BSB trumps all. the color scheme and design is better than the other two.

i would compare caribbean clipper with imperial flagship. and in that match, i would say IF over CC. I like the sleeker design and it just seems more visually stunning than the CC.

if you need to strictly compare RBR with CC, then... RBR is better for play value. it is a bigger ship with more features than the CC. as for a nice display model, i think CC has better color coordination. from afar, RBR looks like a mish-mash of colors. also, nothing beats men in uniforms. :-P

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 07:15 PM

View PostCaptain green hair, on Feb 23 2008, 04:34 PM, said:

I'd definetly go with the clipper, blue figs, old school windows, brown hull instead of red...should i go on? :-D


More or less agreed, and Imperials are so much cooler than rag-tag pirates!  :-P  Also I do not like the RBR sail's, they look rather odd with a big Skull and Cross bones on them.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 07:32 PM

View Postnatelite, on Mar 3 2008, 07:11 PM, said:

i don't think that's a fair poll. you need caribbean clipper for different reasons from a RBR. i would compare RBR with a BSB and SES as they are all pirate ships of similar size and caliber. in that comparison, i think BSB trumps all. the color scheme and design is better than the other two.
I'm afraid I completely disagree with you here :-$ The RBR is a maverick ship; it's the only one with 2 hull sections and 3 cannons *wacko* In this instance, Big T asked which he should buy, given that they're a similar price. Also, the SES pwns the BSB! By a bit. X-D

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 08:27 PM

I wonder if Big T's choice for comparison is that he has found them for sale at similar prices.

That would explain the apparent discrepancy.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 12:36 AM

Actually the reason I had listed them was because they were the ONLY ships I could find for sale in Australia at the time, but as it turned out I had to use my funds for the life outside of Lego (always the case) and as such my dreams of owning a lego ship will have to wait a little. If you want to lock it, feel free, but it may still get some discussion out.

Thanks for Phes for making it a poll to, and for everybody who were willing to help out me out. Admittedly I would prefer finding the Imperial Flagship or one of the other 'big two' in the BSB and SES, but they tend to be quite a price in Aus, or missing a lot pieces. I shall keep my eyes open though

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:58 PM

View PostBig T, on Mar 4 2008, 12:36 AM, said:

If you want to lock it, feel free...
I think not, this has been frontpaged on Classic Pirates! *y*

View PostBig T, on Mar 4 2008, 12:36 AM, said:

Admittedly I would prefer finding the Imperial Flagship or one of the other 'big two' in the BSB and SES, but they tend to be quite a price in Aus, or missing a lot pieces. I shall keep my eyes open though
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:08 PM

RBR due to the size of it.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:12 PM

View PostSlyOwl, on Mar 5 2008, 07:58 AM, said:

I think not, this has been frontpaged on Classic Pirates! *y*
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View PostBig T, on Mar 4 2008, 11:36 AM, said:

Actually the reason I had listed them was because they were the ONLY ships I could find for sale in Australia at the time
I won a Red Beard Runner lately - could it have been the one you were watching?

View PostBig T, on Mar 4 2008, 11:36 AM, said:

If you want to lock it, feel free, but it may still get some discussion out. Thanks for Phes for making it a poll to, and for everybody who were willing to help out me out.
We needed a monthly poll and this topic seemed worthy.  The discussion has been GREAT but it seems the voting department has been a bit quiet.  Though it's better to have discussion than just poll votes so no complaints from me!

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:14 PM

You'll have to be diligent and you can find good deals. I agree with the suggestion to buy incomplete sets. You can usually replace the missing parts from your spare-parts collection or, if not, bricklink. You'll probably still save money.

I'm declining to vote, as I'm torn between the two.

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 08:52 AM

View PostMister Phes, on Mar 5 2008, 08:12 AM, said:

You're a champion!
I won a Red Beard Runner lately - could it have been the one you were watching?
We needed a monthly poll and this topic seemed worthy.  The discussion has been GREAT but it seems the voting department has been a bit quiet.  Though it's better to have discussion than just poll votes so no complaints from me!

Vote in the poll everyone!!!

I reckon it was the one I was watching. Did it come with a couple of extra pirate minifigs? If so I'm happy to hear even though my money had to go elsewhere, it went to a good home!

I hate scouring ebay for lego pirate stuff, because half the stuff that comes up isn't lego. Especially those cheap Black Seas Barracuda wannabe ships...

Although not buying one then may have paid off, because there are two Barracuda's on the Aussie ebay at the moment! Better check my wallet!

And sweet! A poll made by little ol me getting on the front page?

Edited by Big T, 05 March 2008 - 08:55 AM.


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Posted 05 March 2008 - 08:41 PM

I'd say the Carribean Clipper. Sure, Read Beard Runner LOOKS absolutely badass, and has more "play" features, and more figures, buuuut...

The Clipper looks more "professional". Also, it comes with those hard as heck to get ahold of Bluecoats, which make for good British Navy figures. Also, it looks to be more sturdy as well. Sets with gimmicks are fun, but they can fall apart. I had many a hunt looking for booby trap parts with my old Adventurers sets.



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