Super Chief vs. BNSF
Posted 07 May 2005 - 06:47 PM
A face-off between two of Lego's most detailed train engines. Which do you think is a better model?
The Santa Fe Super Chief (or) the Burlington Northern Santa Fe locomotive
Posted 07 May 2005 - 10:02 PM
Between the 2, I only have the Super Chief which is for me (till now) the best train Engine that Lego ever made ;)
The Burlington looks also amazing ;) Cannot wait to get mine.
EDIT: after watching pics of the Burlington, I voted for the Super Chief because of its shape and colors ;)
Posted 08 May 2005 - 05:49 AM
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 12:12 PM
As far as the BNSF engine is concerned, I believe it represents a General Motors Electro-Motive Division EMD GP-38 four-axle loc - an engine widely popular towards the end of the 60s. It did never even come close to the popularity of Atchinson, Topeka & Santa Fe Super Chief, which was also built by General Motors more or less during the same period, however The Super Chief was so immensely popular not only because it defined "streamlined America", an era of design history which we all look back to and marvel at, but also because it was one of the best engines of its day and so was used to transport hundreds of Holywood stars across America.
The EMD GP-38 (the BNSF train), a.k.a. the Geep, was never even aiming at becoming a legendary train, hence its more "typical" form - it did however provide great reliability at a relatively low cost of operation. In my mind, I've always imagined the GP-38 diligently hauling cattle, pulpwood or coal across America while the Super Chief makes its way between Los Angeles and Chicago like a railway supermodel. So there you have it, the Super Chief's appeal is understandably bigger than that of the GP-38 - not only because of its design, but also because of its huge role in American railway history. But that doesn't mean the BNSF train isn't worth having...
Now, I personally would love to own both, but so far have only found the Super Chief at a reasonable price - fortunately, like most of you, it is also my favourite between these two. So I'm currently looking at a few possibilities and if I'm lucky I might post a hands-on review of a trains fan who never owned a LEGO train but somehow managed to get his paws on the Super Chief. If not... I'll just keep on dreaming. But I'll do my best to own both these models sooner rather than later (especially with them becoming increasingly hard to find and expensive) - just like any other LEGO train fan out there.
Edit: Checked my facts. The BNSF train is actually an EMD GP-38, and not a "U-boat" GE U-class as I had first thought.
Edited by TheOtters, 13 May 2009 - 12:11 AM.
Posted 12 May 2009 - 02:14 PM
Yes, here it is: Triple Train Engine Face-Off
Great train facts that you've shared re. these two superb engines, Otters! While the Santa Fe Super Chief is a superb model in every way, I must say that I love the colors of the BNSF, and having used orange and dark green, two newer colors in the official Lego palette, the BNSF just looks fantastic. I still lean toward the Super Chief, but it's a close decision for me. I'm going to have to break them out and line them up side-by-side to compare. Perhaps I'll share some shots on EB.
Posted 12 May 2009 - 09:13 PM
Thanks mate, and you can stick to Bobby... My better half doesn't write in the forum, she just sticks to reading every now and then
As for the Super Chief - fingers crossed, I WILL be reviewing that one in a few weeks' time!!! It's all in the hands of the European postal services right now...
Speaking of which, has anyone of you tried fitting the Super Chief and/or the BNSF GP-38 with PF motors and lights? How does it look, does it take a lot of rearrangement, is it even possible... or should I just go and buy a regular 9V motor for my first LEGO train?
Edited by TheOtters, 12 May 2009 - 10:25 PM.
Posted 12 May 2009 - 10:31 PM
I chose the Super Chief, but "just" because of the fantastic cars you get with set 10022 and 10025. The BNSF only comes with the loco, in my opnion it would have outrun the Santa Fe if it had come with cars as well. The colors are so much better on the BNSF than the Santa Fe, whose cars are grey, very grey.
The way I got to my Santa Fe was, when I browsed a local toy store. They had three 10020 SF locos and a couple of 10025 cars waiting on the shelves to get bought. I couldn´t resist - they still were at the old price tag: 39,99€!
At bricklink I bought all the missing bricks to build the 10022 cars from the 10025 ones. This was the first and (propably) last time I bought in the U.S. This particular parcel got stuck at customs.
It finally went all perfectly but that were some sleepless nights...
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 11:23 PM
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 12:22 PM
Unlike the Super chief, it will be arriving via a friend sometime later on during the summer (July/ August), but when we get both we'll do a review with a side-by-side comparison. I know both of these sets are getting a bit old, but coupled together with the Emerald Night they're hands down the best locos LEGO has ever produced, so I hope such a review will still be worth a look...
Posted 18 May 2009 - 12:35 PM
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Posted 20 May 2009 - 05:40 AM
The overall colour scheme and face of the Santa Fe appealed more to me than the BNSF... Maybe i like orange more than green??
Posted 20 May 2009 - 04:32 PM
The Super Chief has no orange elements, the GP-38 is in green and orange...
Anyway, we just received the Chief yesterday and got around to building it today... I'm a happy
Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:04 AM
Thanks for pointing that out bro! Yap, i guess Red and gray looks better than orange and green for me... ~
Overall, the Santa Fe really looks great for a Freight Locomotive ~
Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:07 PM
TLG has released two Santa Fe locomotives: A Super Chief one (10020) and a BNSF one (10133). I prefer 10020, maybe that is because I like passenger trains much better than Cargo trains. Which do you prefer?
Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:37 PM
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 11:37 PM
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