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#851 SteampunkDoc

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:35 AM

What's this? Doctor Who mid-season, gearing up for the finale, and the last post was a whole month ago?
Here, these reviews should create some nice discussion, if nothing else. :wink:

Cold War:
I do really see the similarities to “Dalek”, but it’s still different enough to not feel recycled. Problem is, not all the differences/changes are good.
The captain seems to bounce between trusting and not trusting the Doctor, but then practically became his best friend by the end. And um, where was that Barbie in the last episode?  Clara seems to have taken to this adventuring thing too quickly, and doesn’t exhibit the wonder and amazement that she should. There has got to be a better way to deal with the TARDIS , and really, it didn’t need to be inaccessible. The threat to all of humanity should have been enough to keep The Doctor from leaving.

The CGI creature is worse than usual, but at least it’s covered by smoke. The creature’s arms look interesting, but it’s a shame we never see the whole thing.  It’s also bad since the suit is so great, to see the rest fail like that. Didn’t see that ending twist coming, but truthfully the Martians didn’t do anything but solve all the problems just in time. Deus ex machina big time. While we see Mr. Icee’s hands all over people’s faces, we never actually see him take out a foe, which would have added greatly to making him feel more threatening. (And is precisely the reason the Dalek was scary.)

It was a nice episode, but as one other reviewer pointed out, Clara doesn’t do much, and it’s got a fair number of filler scenes, and Skaldak seems won over to the side of peace too easily. I didn’t feel much tension/suspense while watching it, and while it’ll be a good one to come back and watch again, it just doesn’t stand out from the crowd.  


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Two minutes in, and it’s already scary. It’s off to a great start, and trust me, things do really continue that way. I like how It just jumps right into the story, and doesn’t bother with how they got there and why they came. It gives the story more time to develop, and that stuff is explained later once things settle down. The candle is a brilliant idea, and gives off a nice scary feel. I like the returning spacesuit, and the umbrella, and really, just about all the stuff referencing old Doctors/episodes. The pocket universe stuff is a great concept, as is the time travelling montage.

"It isn’t a ghost story, it’s a love story." –Interesting quote, interesting twist.

I really like the episode. It’s got scares, it’s got action, it’s got timey-wimey stuff, what’s there not to like?
The twist at the end with the girl and the psychic being related was great, but the romance was just a bit heavy-handed, and the ending felt cut off.  The “Crooked Man” was a great monster, and while the one in the mansion is not explained at all, the tension created by the quick glimpses was a great way to do things. Also, hurrah for prosthetics! No flaws stood out to me in this one, which is a great relief. I was able to just sit back and enjoy the amazingness of Doctor Who without worrying about some silly detail.


The Crimson Horror-
I wasn’t sure what to think going into this, as I’m not a fan of the Gang. I like Strax, being a nice and violent companion. But the other two aren’t special, and even if they do get a spin-off, I probably wouldn’t watch it, and will be glad when they leave the main show. They all seem like one-trick ponies, and there’s just not enough depth to them to do much. They were great in Series 6, the Christmas special was stretching things, and this was lessened IMHO by their presence.
Stupid fainting guy, you have lost any respect I may have had for you. And that wasn't even funny the first time. Doctor? Ok, that was a bit odd. Kinda hate seeing him that way, but at least he got healed up quickly. I don’t care for the grainy flashback format, but at least it ended soon enough. And 'Tom-Tom,' I love it!

“Sontar-ha!”  Strax was an entertaining part off the episode, but the humor didn't fit in well, and it's his only memorable trait.

It seems like The Doctor hardly did anything this episode, and that Jenny, Vastra and Strax could have done everything themselves. The Doctor was conveniently captured, changed, and changed back just to fit the plot, and Clara came to no harm at all. The treatment, for being so horrible, was too easily solved, and to tell the truth I felt that the last few scenes in Yorkshire weren’t that great. The real ending in the modern day however, was greatly entertaining, and touches on something that few others have. The ability to track time traveler’s movements around in history books. Also, Clara's surprise should lead to The Doctor being asked some awkward questions. Can't wait to see that finally happen. The Gang did most of the work, but to tell the truth, it seemed like the main role was split up so much that only Jenny did much of significance. Strax was shoved out of the way and only returned for comic relief, and Vastra just stood around a lot.

This is probably my least favorite episode of this series, as it felt all over the place, and just didn’t work for me. The evil plot was shut down quite easily, the blind girl had a predicable secret, the monster was just a cute spiky red thing, and the villain didn’t seem capable of pulling it all off by herself.  Ada was the main bright spot, but her character isn’t worth the rest of the show. Also, The Doctor does everthing possible to save a deadly Ice Warrior, but doesn’t really care about a slug. Not even an annoyed “No, Ada….Don’t…Noooo….”

Doctor-lite episodes have a tendency to not do well, (Other than Blink) and this one follows the pattern. Well, this one really isn’t either side of the coin. It’s more like a Spin-off pilot than anything, which brings me to my last point….Just get the Paternoster Gang out of Who, I don’t care if they’re dropped, or giving a spin-off, or what, just get them out. After reading some other reviews, one last thing arose. The episode took itself too seriously. Had it been made with a camp-y tone, some of the issues would have been less severe. As is, the horror/gore just clashed a lot with the more absurd moments.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:32 AM

This season is real Meh for the most part.  Some decent episodes.  The Tardis episode was decent but they they had to go an set back everything instead of letting the story advance from there.

I'm really not digging the cinematic style of the latest episodes which I attribute to the new head writer.  And ALL of the "scary" stuff is ridiculous and absolutely laughable.
"Oh look! Their heads are turning around and have something in them!"
"Oh noes these dead people are covered in Ketchup or something!"

It's like the return of Season 1 (new series) and creatures like those lardy things and stupid yellow people who wear human skin...


The new companion has an interesting story which I'm legit interested to see answers in, but the way they're just lazing along literally undoing any progress sometimes...
And her character is too much like Pond.  Sassy attitude confidence stuff.  Pondish.  Why do all the women lately act the same in Doctor Who?


I just wish they'd get this story arc over with and go on.  Too many episodes that both aren't very good and don't advance the story.  Too many of the same character traits.  Too many laughable "monsters".  Blablabla...
Worst season for this doctor so far.  Not to mention the Pond's lame sendoff.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 05:42 PM

'Nightmare in Sliver' tomorrow! Can't wait! And next week is the 'Name of The Doctor'!! It's going to be amazing! Is anybody else hoping that it is more of a two-parter with the 50th as part two?
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:20 PM

Yes! I'm looking forward to it too, I love cybermen :D

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 03:08 AM

Nightmare in Sliver
I truly have no idea what to say about this one.

It felt a bit all over the place, and didn't ever settle down into one story/style/tone. It's certainly better than Closing Time, but it it just doesn't quite work.
The new Cybermen aren't as scary as they were hyped up to be, and while some of the new features work (Head turning around, The Cybermites.) others are either over-powered or unnessecary. ("Upgrade in progress", detachable hand/head, super-speed.) I liked the creepy "Pick off the defenders one by one using stealth" idea, but the inclusion of extra gimmicks wasn't always that great. The Super-speed was a one-off power that either should have been ditched, or used later. If they have such a weapon, why not use it more? I never saw what was so wrong about the Cybusmen's slow and stomping ways. It gave a sweet "You can run, but we're still coming and there's nothing you can do about it" feel. While it's a neat looking re-design, no mention of Mondas was made, and they really weren't the main antagonist.

Matt Smith was amazing in this episode. Great acting, great flip-flopping between personalities, and I love all of the references to his past. As another reviewer pointed out, the Cyber-Doctor was far from a emotion-less Cyberman like personality  but the performance was so good I never even thought about that in the episode.  It was nice to see Clara take charge, and the confidence The Doctor showed in her has certainly developed over the series. Porridge was great, and while the twist at the end was unexpected, it was a bit too fast and out of the blue for me. And his proposal was equally so. The kids were not needed, and didn't even add the "Child-like wonder and excitement" that they should have. The girl just complained about everything, and the boy wasn't hardly featured at all. The Captain was just a jerk, and I was glad to see her go, and the rest were left undeveloped.

While it was a mildly clever episode, it just doesn't stand out. It was all over the place, and the Cybermen were once again not really the main focus. And really, they haven't been since Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel.
We need another good CYBERMEN story, not just another story that happens to have the Cybermen.

Sadly no more hints at Clara's mystery, and it seems like this could fit just about anywhere in the timeline of Series 7b.
At least the next episode looks fantastic!
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:51 AM

It's just great seeing Warwick Davis in a Doctor Who episode.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:07 AM

It was wrong. It mixed broad humour with horror, like Love and Monsters meets Tomb of the Cybermen. Parts of it worked really well, like the 'Borg like adaption' and the retcon that gold disrupts the connection between the cybernet and the drone, explaining why the touch of gold (in Silver Nemesis) is fatal as opposed to gold powder. The Empty shells just complicated matters a bit, they had the cybus logo on, but all the cybusmen where destroyed in The Next Doctor (with the Pandorica, A Good Man, and Closing Time Cybermen supposed to be Mondas ones without having to change the costumes). Other than the Cybermen, the episode was crap, except from Warwick Davis who did a great job (occasionally very poorly writing dialog though).  That late episode shot of the Cybermen leaving the tombs (indecently looking like the inside of a Borg Cube) and marching on the castle was fantastic.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:58 PM

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Bad episode :P.  The kids were the biggest idiots I've ever seen.  It was just so unrealistically exaggerated how insane these kids are.  I mean they thought they were ON THE MOON for a second and literally complained.  THE MOON!  Kids aren't THAT dumb.  No kids their age would pick an amusement park over THE FREAKIN' MOON!

And the older girl's comments were just really stupid every single freakin' time.  It's like these kids don't seem to care they're on a freakin' time machine/spaceship, they're going to another world.  It's all "dumb" to them.  They were (mostly the older one) the most unrealistically unappreciative and entitled little brats in the whole universe!  Not to mention how they figured out that their fake-mom was a time traveler...



It's just all so unbelievably stupid.  

Honestly, I was looking forward to giving more specific examples of the absurdities but I seemed to have erased it from my mind.  It was so painful.




Another bad episode in a "meh" season.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:04 AM

Spoiler-free review of:
THE NAME OF THE DOCTOR
Whoa...I'm speechless...That was so amazing, and the ending was just so....Squeee!!!
I won't say much, but it's a must see, and got me extremely hyped for the 50th special.

Basically, it answers some questions well, leaves others alone, and throws in a huge earth-shattering reveal at the end.
It solves the Clare arc brilliantly, includes some great bonuses for classic fans, and wraps up this series quite nicely.
Whatever you may or may not think of this series, you've got to watch this one. It's fantastic.
And that's all for now. :wink:
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:55 AM

Really fantastic episode with only one problem which I'll put in a spoiler tag. Other than that it was easily the best episode since series 5.
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostMr Man, on 19 May 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:

Really fantastic episode with only one problem which I'll put in a spoiler tag. Other than that it was easily the best episode since series 5.
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Oooh, good points...
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 03:38 PM

View PostSteampunkDoc, on 19 May 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

Oooh, good points...
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 07:31 PM

Decent finale
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:27 PM

Just saw the episode. Wow. That's very impressive, some clever ideas. I'm pretty sure Moffat planned all that from the very beginning.
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:47 PM

Well that was better.  The season has been weaker than usual.  I'd say the first and last episodes were the best episodes of this season.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 04:34 AM

BrickG, the regeneration limit is not really valid anymore due to several things:
#1, Most agree that this was a limit set in law by the Time Lords, and not a physical limit. (Or something similar like 12 is a real limit, but easy to get around with the tech of the day, so extending the number of lives was outlawed.)
#2, It's established that the Time Lords can offer people new sets of regeneration, and it was very likely that they did so a lot in the Time War.
#3, River gave up all of hers to the Doctor. (Although nobody is quite sure if he got them, or if they were just all used up at once and nobody got any of them.)
#4, While might make a fun storyline, there's no doubt that an easy work around will be found once the time comes to re-cast.

I'm not sure if the partial regens count, and what happens when he just uses some of it.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 04:45 AM

Thank you!
I'm sure he'll be brilliant whoever he ends up being.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 12:19 PM

Saww it. Yay! Though whisper men look like the Trickster from SJA...

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:37 PM

I really liked the last episode, but really confused about John Hurt, who is he in Doctor Who, it said "Introducing John Hurt as The Doctor"....
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 11:34 PM

Steven Moffat made a point in saying that there was no 2 parters in series 7, and of course there wasn't.

Do you know/think he will do it for series 8 as well?

What do you guys(and girls! :tongue:) think of no more two parters? Personnally I think it is a terrible idea and he should not bring it into series 8. I love two parters, it creates excitement around single episodes and not just the series story ark.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 01:38 AM

It is so tempting to read those spoilers!
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:39 AM

Don't do it!
I was so glad that I went into TNOTD without being spoiled. It was way better that way.
You must resist the temptation. :wink:

As for two-parters, that was a rubbish choice. Two parters are great, (In moderation) and help give a change of pace and a breath of fresh air.
They allow a lot more development, and most of my favorite episodes are two parters. (Pandorica/Empty Child/Impossible Astronaut/Bad Wolf/Forest of the Dead)
Two per season is a great balance I think, but after all of the inter-connected-Timey-Wimey-ness of Series 6, it was nice to just plop down for a few stand-alone shows.
At least they didn't go to the other extreme with a serialized format like the Classic Series. :cry_sad:
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:43 AM

View PostBrickG, on 19 May 2013 - 11:47 PM, said:

Well that was better.  The season has been weaker than usual.  I'd say the first and last episodes were the best episodes of this season.

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I don't believe they have ever mentioned the 12 regeneration limit in the modern era? So it may not still be cannon. Even if it was, wasn't it implied at the minimum, that the Doctors timer was reset during the Tom Baker Key of Time story arc? (Plus the master is quite a few regenerations past 12 at this point.)
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 08:31 AM

View PostFaefrost, on 21 May 2013 - 03:43 AM, said:

I don't believe they have ever mentioned the 12 regeneration limit in the modern era? So it may not still be cannon. Even if it was, wasn't it implied at the minimum, that the Doctors timer was reset during the Tom Baker Key of Time story arc? (Plus the master is quite a few regenerations past 12 at this point.)


The master was specifically revived and given new regenerations for the Time War so I'm pretty sure his reset at least.  He was apparently very dead until the Time Lords apparently got desperate.



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