CorneliusMurdock, on 16 October 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:
First yes, Snotra. You are being a jerk. But you know that already. I'm sorry if you're tired of hearing it but I'm tired of people saying I "twist" words and I can't them to stop either.
What harm was you knowing I was Aphrodite at the time? You said were going to vote for him. That vote could have gone either way in a hurry. One more vote against Hervi could have been enough to tip it his way. Don't pretend you don't know that.
If you really feel that strongly about me, why wait to bring it up? You obviously didn't feel strongly enough either way in the Hervi/Dragmall vote if you were willing to lobby your vote for information. Danr admitted to not making sense at points. You skim over that part? He accused me of twisting words, I denied it. I cited examples. What more do you want from me?
And yes, I thought Dragmall was scummy/neutrally because of his reaction to Hervi's play. I still don't trust him. Hervi hasn't told me everything, and I encourage him not to, but if he says Dragmall brought him information that he wants to look into, I'm willing to give it a chance.
As to why I should be trusted by Hervi, I don't know. I didn't ask to be trusted and didn't go looking for it. I certainly didn't try to use my vote as leverage to get information I didn't need. Maybe I'm just more fun to hang around than you, Snotra.
Sorry, I'm not meaning to be a jerk. But I don't call people names for no reason. I can't change things until you give advice and what needs changing and point out where I'm going wrong. Twisting words is something you can factually do, being a jerk is just so... general. Backhanded insults like you and others make in posts are no fun for anyone too, there's no need. If I'm being treated bad, of course I'm going to not go out of my way to be nice to them. That's how it goes, cast the first stone and all that. But shall we try to keep it closer to the game, thanks.
I don't think that's true, first off, he did not know that until after he offered it, the votes were not piling up, he had plenty of oppertunity to make me change my mind about my viewpoints, but instead he did not. Kept it a secret instead. So not revealing you only because I would vote for him, does not seem like enough reason to me.
I read what I read, and in this perspective, what is being called out as twisting his words by him makes sense, yes. I did not call it out, because I had no need, and could get no explanation. You already responded to it, thanks for that, by the way, but I don't think there was anything to do. As I said, there was no point to bring it up, you weren't involved in any lynches, and of course when it became relevant, I did mention it. I could of course keep public hourly records of all my suspicions, but I don't see the point and I think it would just be a lot of work.
If you want to call it leveraging my vote, I call it wanting to know what is going on. If making me want some clarity before I vote instead of word against word from people who could either be scum or even both be scum, if that makes me a jerk, I will gladly bear that title. I will also accept the mantle of the master jerk and the associated salary.
Okay, that's fair enough, but to me that looks like certainty, and that's suspicious. I think you might be too trusting of Hervi, but that's my skewered viewpoint, of course.
Sandy, on 16 October 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:
You haven't offended me personally, I just don't like your aggressiveness and arrogance - those are very un-ladylike properties, you know. I already stated my reason for voting you. I certainly did not mean to send you any "cryptic messages" with what I said, so your attempt to bully me with a potato message was not welcomed.
I'll be honest, I don't know what a potato message is. Your cryptic message was in thread.