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[Palathadric]

This is something I wondered:
I always used to use the "Minifig Head with Messy Hair and Moustache Pattern (LDraw Part Number: 3626BP30)" for the "Minifig Head with Messy Hair, Moustache and Stubble Pattern (LDraw Part Number: 3626BP35)" because the latter didn't exist at the time.
I also have been using the "Minifig Head with Messy Hair, Moustache, and Beard Pattern (LDraw Part Number: 3626BP33) for the "Minifig Head with Messy Hair, Moustache, and Brown Beard Vertical Lines Pattern (Not an LDraw Part Yet)".
However, I was wondering whether the ones I used to use are actually patterns that LEGO made or if they were just invented by LDraw.

Another thing I was wondering about is, what colour is Red-Brown (as Bricklink calls it) of the pirate from "1713-Shipwrecked Pirate" (though he appeared in many more sets than just that one). I believe it is also the same colour as the Imperial Soldier from the "6245-Harbour Sentry," etc. (Though the latter's hair colour is just called "brown" in bricklink. I used to use red for all of these figures with the "Red-Brown" hair colour, but there must be a "correct" colour. Also, the "Reddish-Brown" of more modern sets doesn't look right either, but this is the closest colour I can get, as far as name is concerned.

I hope I made myself somewhat clear with these questions. Thanks in advance.

Edited by Palathadric, 13 September 2012 - 01:46 PM.

[C3POwen]

legolijntje, on 13 September 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

In general, I choose the model letter like this; 1st model in the book is Model A, 2nd model in the book is Model B etc.

I've started building some of the models from 4100 Maximum Wheels, and had to work out the "Model A", "Model B", etc., due to the number of models that can be built in the set, and they go from A-M. Looks like I have my work cut out!

Palathadric, on 13 September 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

I always used to use the "Minifig Head with Messy Hair and Moustache Pattern (LDraw Part Number: 3626BP30)" for the "Minifig Head with Messy Hair, Moustache and Stubble Pattern (LDraw Part Number: 3626BP35)" because the latter didn't exist at the time.
I also have been using the "Minifig Head with Messy Hair, Moustache, and Beard Pattern (LDraw Part Number: 3626BP33) for the "Minifig Head with Messy Hair, Moustache, and Brown Beard Vertical Lines Pattern (Not an LDraw Part Yet)".
However, I was wondering whether the ones I used to use are actually patterns that LEGO made or if they were just invented by LDraw.

The part numbers and names in LDraw do not always match those listed on BrickLink. LDraw also has a name length limit, restricting how many letters can be used.

LDraw part 3626bp33 seems to match BrickLink part 3626bpb025. I've not been able to find a match on BrickLink for LDraw part 3626bp30, although it may be that stubble was planned but not added, as LDraw parts can be very complex to create, particularly minifig faces. Running a search for the term "moustache" on BrickLink does not really bring up any accurate matches.

Palathadric, on 13 September 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

Another thing I was wondering about is, what colour is Red-Brown (as Bricklink calls it) of the pirate from "1713-Shipwrecked Pirate" (though he appeared in many more sets than just that one). I believe it is also the same colour as the Imperial Soldier from the "6245-Harbour Sentry," etc. (Though the latter's hair colour is just called "brown" in bricklink. I used to use red for all of these figures with the "Red-Brown" hair colour, but there must be a "correct" colour. Also, the "Reddish-Brown" of more modern sets doesn't look right either, but this is the closest colour I can get, as far as name is concerned.

The "Red-Brown" colour used for the printing looks very similar to the Dark Orange (used for young Obi-Wan Kenobi) or Rust colours available in LDraw (depending on which picture you're looking at), so they may be the best substitute.

Remember, the colours in LDraw are not all 100% accurate representations of the real-life colours.

@Superkalle/Calabar: Should this part of the thread perhaps be split and put into its own "LDraw issues / questions" thread?

Edited by C3POwen, 14 September 2012 - 08:48 AM.

[Palathadric]

C3POwen, on 13 September 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

LDraw part 3626bp33 seems to match BrickLink part 3626bpb025. I've not been able to find a match on BrickLink for LDraw part 3626bp30, although it may be that stubble was planned but not added, as LDraw parts can be very complex to create, particularly minifig faces. Running a search for the term "moustache" on BrickLink does not really bring up any accurate matches.

The "Red-Brown" colour used for the printing looks very similar to the Dark Orange (used for young Obi-Wan Kenobi) or Rust colours available in LDraw (depending on which picture you're looking at), so they may be the best substitute.

Remember, the colours in LDraw are not all 100% accurate representations of the real-life colours.

Yes, I assumed this too. Thanks for your input in regards to the colours.

C3POwen, on 13 September 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

@Superkalle/Calabar: Should this part of the thread perhaps be split and put into its own "LDraw issues / questions" thread?

Don't know if this is the right place to discuss these things?

[C3POwen]

4402 Sea Riders (Model A) [Creator, 2003]



MPD file

The above model includes some LSynth parts under the main engine cover, although the model will display fine without them in any other LDraw-compatible program.

Palathadric, on 13 September 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Thanks for your input in regards to the colours.

As the "official" LDraw colours do not quite match how the colours appear in real life, try using my custom LDConfig.ldr file, which is where LDraw/LDView looks for its colour definitions. The version of Rust that I have here is more akin with the real version. The file needs to be installed to LDraw's base directory.

Palathadric, on 13 September 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Don't know if this is the right place to discuss these things?

I would imagine that it would be better to start a fresh topic for general LDraw queries. May perhaps start one myself.

[Palathadric]

I made this topic a while back, maybe we should use it, since that's what I made it for.

[EdmanZA]

8002 Destroyer Droid [Star Wars, Technic, 2000]



L3B File

Errors:
Missing 342c01 Brown Technic Flex-System Cable
Missing x188 Brown Pneumatic Tubing
Missing 75 Dark Grey Technic Flex-System Hoses (30374 Bar 4L used instead)
Missing all rubber bands

I built all of the next one, before noticing that Widetent beat me to it a year ago. Mine does include the speeder and minifigs, so I'll add it anyway.

4483 AT-AT [Star Wars, Episode IV-VI, 2003]



L3B File

Errors:
Missing x130px3 Minifig Accessory Helmet Imperial with AT-AT Driver Pattern (blank Imperial helmet used instead)
Missing 973px322 Minifig Torso with SW AT-AT Driver Pattern (blank torso used)
Missing 973px321 Minifig Torso with SW Snowtrooper Pattern (blank torso used)
Missing 3041px2 Slope Brick 45 2 x 4 Double with AT-AT Cockpit Visor Pattern (blank part used)

[C3POwen]

One of today's random sets on Brickset...

697 Stage Coach [Legoland, 1976]



MPD file

Edited by C3POwen, 15 September 2012 - 03:52 PM.

[EdmanZA]

Time for a classic.

8880 Super Car [Technic, 1994]



L3B File

Errors:
Missing 1x sticker at the front

[C3POwen]

4884 Wild Hunters (Model I) [Creator, 2005]



MPD file

[Palathadric]

What colour should I use for the minifig ghost's shroud? Thus far I've been using trans bright green, but I don't know if this is the best. What do you all think?

[C3POwen]

Palathadric, on 16 September 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

What colour should I use for the minifig ghost's shroud? Thus far I've been using trans bright green, but I don't know if this is the best. What do you all think?

If you mean the part used prior to this year's Monster Fighters sets, then the correct LDraw colour is "21 Glow in the Dark Opaque".

[Palathadric]

Oh, thanks, that colour is not available in SR 3D Builder, but I found it in MLCad.

[legolijntje]

A little too late...

Index update

• 13 sets added
  
• I'm trying to get the right subthemes
  
• I hope to get Brickset themes in the future

[TotalyWicked]

Creator
4838-1: Mini Vehicles

Download 4838-A.dat


Download 4838-B.dat


Download 4838-C.dat


Errors: None

Edited by TotalyWicked, 05 November 2012 - 06:11 AM.

[TotalyWicked]

Creator 30020-Jet



Download 30020.dat

Errors: None

Edited by TotalyWicked, 05 November 2012 - 06:22 AM.

[TotalyWicked]

Creator 30020-Jet



Download 30020.dat

Errors: None

Edited by TotalyWicked, 05 November 2012 - 06:31 AM.

[legolijntje]

TotalyWicked, on 19 September 2012 - 05:42 AM, said:

Creator
4838-1: Mini Vehicles

If the nameplates are in the file, please remove them, otherwise; no problem  

(I wanted to check myself, but for some reason my LeoCad won't work   )

[C3POwen]

5866 Rotor Rescue (Model A) [Creator, 2010]



MPD file

5866 Rotor Rescue (Model B) [Creator, 2010]



MPD file

5866 Rotor Rescue (Model C) [Creator, 2010]



LDR file

I've noticed that the ".lcd" files that have been posted, which were created in LeoCAD, will not open using LDView or MLCad. As they do not appear to be standard LDraw files (i.e. I can't open them in a standard text editor like Notepad to see the line types that make up a model or LDraw part), should they be allowed in the thread? I'm not trying to stop anyone from using LeoCAD, but does it give the option to export files to a format that is actually LDraw-compliant, and therefore of use to people who do not use LeoCAD?

[Palathadric]

C3POwen, on 19 September 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

-snip-

What happened to your POV-Ray, C3POwen!   

[TotalyWicked]

legolijntje, on 19 September 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

If the nameplates are in the file, please remove them, otherwise; no problem  

(I wanted to check myself, but for some reason my LeoCad won't work   )

there are 0 nameplates in the files :)

my LeoCAD been a bit weird as well, i have to save file to my PC and open it from there.... it will not download and open file....
i hope that helps

[legolijntje]

C3POwen, on 19 September 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

I've noticed that the ".lcd" files that have been posted, which were created in LeoCAD, will not open using LDView or MLCad. As they do not appear to be standard LDraw files (i.e. I can't open them in a standard text editor like Notepad to see the line types that make up a model or LDraw part), should they be allowed in the thread? I'm not trying to stop anyone from using LeoCAD, but does it give the option to export files to a format that is actually LDraw-compliant, and therefore of use to people who do not use LeoCAD?

That's weird, in the past, I was always able to open lcd files in LDview. Maybe I had just some luck, or LDview is just broken.

But, since it uses the LDraw library, I think I have to accept the lcd files.

EDIT; after a bit of googling (if that's a word   ), you can save .lcd files as .dat or as .ldr by simply pressing "save as"

TotalyWicked, on 20 September 2012 - 04:45 AM, said:

there are 0 nameplates in the files :)

my LeoCAD been a bit weird as well, i have to save file to my PC and open it from there.... it will not download and open file....
i hope that helps

It both doesn't work for me, maybe I just have to reinstall leocad  

[C3POwen]

legolijntje, on 20 September 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

But, since it uses the LDraw library, I think I have to accept the lcd files.

EDIT; after a bit of googling (if that's a word   ), you can save .lcd files as .dat or as .ldr by simply pressing "save as"

SR 3D Builder's L3B files are essentially LDR files, with a few extra lines in them, and can be opened with other LDraw applications, so there is no issue with those. And BrickSmith on the Mac also uses LDR files, as per the LDraw spec.

Should it be suggested that LeoCAD users perhaps post compatible LDR or DAT files instead of LCD files?

[EdmanZA]

6805 Astro Dasher [Classic Space, 1985]



L3B File

Errors:
None

6826 Crater Crawler [Classic Space, 1985]



L3B File

Errors:
None

My first attempts at rendering, using C3POwen's guide.

Edited by EdmanZA, 23 September 2012 - 08:07 PM.

[EdmanZA]

5590 Whirl and Wheel Super Truck [Model Team, 1990]



MPD File

Errors:
Missing stickers

5590 B Model [Model Team, 1990]



L3B File

Errors:
Missing stickers

Edited by EdmanZA, 24 September 2012 - 12:29 PM.

[legolijntje]

Index Update

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