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[oo7]

Introducing a new online community for LEGO Pirates fans over the age of sixteen! Check it out -

http://www.brothers-...encovecom-news/

Thoughts?

[Wes]

oo7, on Aug 9 2008, 07:33 PM, said:

Thoughts?

I think this is almost a direct result of the failure of classic-pirates.com to provide useful content instead of a bunch of "Coming Soon" pages that never arrive.

The site seems to be a clone of our community. It's direct competition, which is bad.

This post has been edited by Wes: 10 August 2008 - 01:11 AM

[Mister Phes]

Wes, on Aug 10 2008, 11:09 AM, said:

I think this is almost a direct result of the failure of classic-pirates.com to provide useful content instead of a bunch of "Coming Soon" pages that never arrive.

That and the fact the LEGO Pirate Forum is part of Eurobricks and not hosted on Classic-Pirates.com.

Wes, on Aug 10 2008, 11:09 AM, said:

The site seems to be a clone of our community. It's direct competition, which is bad.

It's probably in the best interest of Pirate LEGO Fanatics. Personally I don't think the Pirate forum situation with Eurobricks is really the most ideal solution so I hope their forum is a success.

[Dovchenko]

Bad idea. Eurobricks is all we need. Pirates is unfortunately a dead theme to LEGO and due to it being so small, it only needs one fan-site. Themes like SW are twice as popular as Pirates, allowing it to have several sites such as FBTB. Though there are practically hundreds of pirates fans, you can't count the number of LEGO Star Wars fans. I'll stick to Eurobricks.

[Gen. Knowledge]

Just as I was getting comfortable here... Personally for me, I don't want to have to log in to two different sites and navigate between the two constantly. I don't care which site wins, but lets hope it is only one site that wins. If we can unite under one banner (site), it would be so much easier to pass on information, for contest, and to share MOCs. Come on pirates, don't let me slip back into the dark ages.

Just my opinion, and I've been known to be wrong a lot!


Tony

[Phred]

Being that at least two of the Admin have been Lego Ambassadors.
One of which assisted TLG in the creation of their new Castle Theme.

I wonder if they know something about a new pirates coming out?
I don't think these two would help start a Specific forum for a theme that hasn't been produced in ten years.

[Siegfried]

Gen. Knowledge, on Aug 10 2008, 03:36 PM, said:

If we can unite under one banner (site), it would be so much easier to pass on information, for contest, and to share MOCs.

Seems unlikely; they make their feelings towards this site pretty clear.

[Mister Phes]

Sinner, on Aug 11 2008, 01:35 PM, said:

Seems unlikely; they make their feelings towards this site pretty clear.

Supposedly they're a friendly and mature community, but one may find themself questioning: Does a genuinely friendly and mature community resort to belittling or directing children and potential troublemakers towards another community in what appears to be a strategy to increase the popularity of their own community?

I think, ideally both Pirate LEGO communities should co-exist harmoniously sharing the love of their common interest, but I'm strongly impressioned they feel rather differently. Which is a shame because it seems unnecessary to introduce negativity into the online AFOL Community - but that's real life competition for ya! Not everyone resorts to honourable measures.

[oo7]

Phred, on Aug 10 2008, 09:49 PM, said:

Being that at least two of the Admin have been Lego Ambassadors.
One of which assisted TLG in the creation of their new Castle Theme.

I wonder if they know something about a new pirates coming out?
I don't think these two would help start a Specific forum for a theme that hasn't been produced in ten years.

The premise is plausible but the approach is ironically irrelevant.

architect, on http://forbiddencove.com/parlay/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=45, said:

Athos, on http://forbiddencove.com/parlay/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=45, said:

I don't think I've ever introduced myself at a forum before... I just usually jump in with the posting. But, here I am.

Does this mean we're going to have a new Lego pirate line? I can't see any reason to start the site, unless our ambassadors and former ambassadors know something is coming down the pipe and want to be ready... :D

Guess I'll have to work up a pirate avatar now.

Steve

Welcome to the Forbidden Cove. Several of the admins here have been thinking of starting this site for several years now. Work started on this site before there were even rumors of a possible Pirate line. We want to give Pirate fans more options than are currently available at other places.

Ben

[Shadows]

Gen. Knowledge, on Aug 10 2008, 01:36 AM, said:

Just as I was getting comfortable here...

Absolutely no reason not to stay comfortable here.

Unless they're going to leak inside information from TLG, which would go against the terms of their Ambassadorships, what do they have?

We have the history, the members, and the spirit. We hold exciting contests with impressive prizes and lots of participation. We've been actively showing our appreciation for the line for years.

Why would anyone choose to switch to the copy when they can have the original?

[Siegfried]

Mister Phes, on Aug 11 2008, 12:38 PM, said:

Supposedly they're a friendly and mature community, but one may find themself questioning: Does a genuinely friendly and mature community resort to belittling or directing children and potential troublemakers towards another community in what appears to be a strategy to increase the popularity of their own community?

I agree. I am surprised at their attitude as we have always promoted Classic-Castle competitions, and we have a link to CC on our frontpage. They even have "Eurobricks" in their swear filter... (It changes to "That Euro site".)

I don't understand why we deserve such rudeness.

[Mister Phes]

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We want to give Pirate fans more options than are currently available at other places.

I think this is fair reasoning as users deserve options, but I believe the user should decide for his or herself without the influence of a somewhat libelous policy.

[ImperialScouts]

Sinner, on Aug 10 2008, 10:47 PM, said:

They even have "Eurobricks" in their swear filter... (It changes to "That Euro site".)

I don't understand why we deserve such rudeness.

Wow, that is just not right!

[blueandwhite]

I've been a member of both Classic-Castle and Eurobricks for a few years and have found both sites to be quite useful. Given Forbidden Cove's close ties to Classic-Castle. I don't really see the harm in having another site dedicated to Pirates, particularly if there is a new pirate theme (which is seeming quite likely at this point) on the horizon. I'm not really that put off by the jabs coming from either site. I'm an adult and I choose freely where I want to post. As long as I'm curteous and mindful of a forum's rules, I don't care if different sites choose to be in competition with each other or not.

People left Lugnet. I never really got that involved over there as I found many senior posters to be quite condescending or flat out rude to more junior members. Eurobricks has always been friendly to me, so I can't see myself going anywhere. The same is true of Classic-Castle so when all is said and done, I'm more than willing to give Forbidden Cove a chance too. Right now I simply see the jabs at Eurobricks as being of no real importance. I certainly wouldn't let them get under my skin.

[Cpt. Pegleg Blockbeard]

And another clone brand springs up to challenge the true Lego Brand , sure this is a little different, I am not too sure why they have set this site up.

It provides an alternative to this one sure, but this one discusses the same material, it could not be the age restriction as we have a +18 rule, and if they think they can stop young one joining they are joking! Kids who can't do something want it even more! If they truly wanted an alternative they would have no age restriction. I think it is more the case they want to be the admin of the site and not have to be "under" anybody else, and also notable ex-members from here, ("that euro-place"), probably wanted to get in on pirates again...

Its non-for profit type stuff so money cannot be an issue. Sure competition is good in a market where consumers are concerned over price, just look at the no competition prices of petrol! However for fan sites it will just complicate who is who, for example I could join their site under Mister Phes if I wanted (will not do)! It splits focus and people are not sure where to go to find what, their no referencing us is a tad misplaced for a fan community that is supporting Lego and destroys any unity between the two sites, it actually sounds like they value their sites branding over Lego's Brand! shame F-C and C-C Admin, Shame!

All that said, it does have an area for ESPG... C-C is always a good spot to visit and was always neutral with the castle forum, hopefully this can turn around and end up a bit like that

Sir Dano, maybe you could explain to us (me) why the site has been started, as of yet I see no reason for it.

EDIT: I re-read what i wrote it was to harsh for my opinion of C-C, and a few spelling issues

This post has been edited by Cpt. Pegleg Blockbeard: 11 August 2008 - 06:24 AM