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[WIP][MOC][UCS] EF76 Nebulon B medical frigate : The Redemption

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The Redemption is one of my favorite ship in the original Star Wars trilogy. I really wanted to the build a UCS model of it. Yet, people who have built it aren't sharing the instructions for the moment (I understand why now ...). Last year I decided to design it under LDD with the goal of building it for real and displaying it !

Here are the conditions I've set and decision I've made:

- A scale of 1/250 :

-> 1/200 is actually better suited for this project.

- Around 5000 parts :

-> This was changed to 9000.

- Only cheap and common parts :

-> It's almost the case, all the parts are common.

-> There are some expensive parts : the Technic bricks, the plates and few slopes.

- Swooshable

-> It will probably be swooshable as long as you don't hold it from the center.

-> It will weight something like 15 kg ...

- Be as close as possible to the movie model

-> I am using about 200 pictures of the original model used for the movie

-> I am using some pictures of the work done by ShowCraft on the therpf forum (He seems to have alot of information I don't)

-> For the color scheme, I am using light bluish gray because 1) the parts are available and 2) you can't really see the colors in the movie

-> In the movies, the model was mirrored to show the right side. If it is interesting, I use the model design, and if not, I mirror.

- Build it by May the 4th 2016

-> It's going to be complicated ...

I am about half way done with the design. Here are the pictures of the current work :

23122442362_1299ce5218_c.jpgWIP 4 by Samir Lrhoul, sur Flickr

22744158519_bcd7d4568d_c.jpgWIP 3 by Samir Lrhoul, sur Flickr

22717947487_dd0fbacd8c_c.jpgWIP 5 by Samir Lrhoul, sur Flickr

Please comment ! I'd love to know what you think of the current work and if you have any advises.

PS : the flashy colors or things that will be modified.

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That looks absolutely amazing. I'm looking forward to seeing it finished.

I think you're doing an excellent job of capturing the shapes and the details of the original model. I can match up every part on your model to an original part in the photographs, and everything looks in proportion with everything else - brilliant work!

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Nice. Ambitious project, I cross my fingers for you to succeed. One thing - you really can't expect this to be swooshable (hard to imagine swinging around 15 kg ship, even if the shape was more swoosh-friendly, which this totally isn't :classic:). Still you need to make your spine as rigid as possible. It has to withstand both bending forces and torque. And as far as my experience go, two 'layers' of technic bricks won't be sufficient. Or it will but you end up with dozens of stands and it will be tricky to pick up the model.

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Wow that scale is absolutely breathtaking! Love the Nebulon Frigate. Sadly TLG may never get around to it on a system scale. I applaud all efforts for this great build. Is the engine section solid bricks or mostly empty?

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Thanks for all your great comments. It's going to give me even more motivation to get it complet !

Huge!Nice work. My suggestion - try to change plates to tiles. Especially that "roof" part on second photo.

It's planed, I want to make some corrections to engine section before I decorate it.

Nice. Ambitious project, I cross my fingers for you to succeed. One thing - you really can't expect this to be swooshable (hard to imagine swinging around 15 kg ship, even if the shape was more swoosh-friendly, which this totally isn't :classic:). Still you need to make your spine as rigid as possible. It has to withstand both bending forces and torque. And as far as my experience go, two 'layers' of technic bricks won't be sufficient. Or it will but you end up with dozens of stands and it will be tricky to pick up the model.

You don't fell like swinging a 15kg ship all around, both arms stretched to hold the 150cm ? ^^

As you say, the spine has to be as solid as possible. I am thinging about using 8 paralele lines of 1x16 Technic bricks with an offset of 2 studs and with 2 layers of 1x8 and 2x8 plates. Can you see anything else more rigid that could fit inside the spine ? I've also spent time reducing the weight of each part of the ship.

Wow that scale is absolutely breathtaking! Love the Nebulon Frigate. Sadly TLG may never get around to it on a system scale. I applaud all efforts for this great build. Is the engine section solid bricks or mostly empty?

That is actually microscale :-) . Yet, I don't know why TLG never released a Nebulon B frigate. There are some nice designs out there, like the one on Ideas. It's at a good scale to be sold as a set. Anyway if they don't make it, we will !

The inside of the engine section look like this :

22737280528_cb58a30a08_c.jpgWIP 6 by Samir Lrhoul, sur Flickr

9000 pieces+ and 30 lbs+??? Is anyone going to attempt to make this beast?

I will ! And I'd love to see other persons build it too. It's not much bigger than Anio's Venator or Cavegod's AT-AT, just a bit longer :-D

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Hahaha! If you mean swooshable is having 2 people gingerly carrying it from Point A to Point B slowly... :)

I can't wait to attempt to do this monster!

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This looks like a nice start. I always wondered why TLG hasn't made a set out of this. (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe it had more screentime than the B wing , yet we got 3 sets and and UCS for it yet nothing for this

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I am thinging about using 8 paralele lines of 1x16 Technic bricks with an offset of 2 studs and with 2 layers of 1x8 and 2x8 plates. Can you see anything else more rigid that could fit inside the spine ? I've also spent time reducing the weight of each part of the ship.

What is the limit in terms of height and thickness of your spine? Anyway, first thing I'd change is the offset - you always get the least bend by offseting technic bricks by half of it's length. Speaking of different approaches, I once tried using 2 layers of 4x12 plates (offset of 6) put vertically on each side of rather minimalistic technic brick structure, using these as connection. This came up extremely stiff in up/down bending test, way better than stacked technic bricks. Torque was a whole different story but that could be solved by reinforcing the inside structure of such spine. I didn't try that yet though. Lack of technic bricks :)

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And I'd love to see other persons build it too.

If you make the instructions available I'm sure some others will! ;)

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What is the limit in terms of height and thickness of your spine? Anyway, first thing I'd change is the offset - you always get the least bend by offseting technic bricks by half of it's length. Speaking of different approaches, I once tried using 2 layers of 4x12 plates (offset of 6) put vertically on each side of rather minimalistic technic brick structure, using these as connection. This came up extremely stiff in up/down bending test, way better than stacked technic bricks. Torque was a whole different story but that could be solved by reinforcing the inside structure of such spine. I didn't try that yet though. Lack of technic bricks :)

The thin part of the spine is 4 stud width and 10 plates high on 90 studs long. There is room to reinforce the rest of the spine. I also want to have studs on the 4 sides. Here is the last interweaving I've though about :

23170796995_138152db62_c.jpgSpine by Samir Lrhoul, sur Flickr

There almost no alignment and there is room for 5 pins to connect each technic brick to the other. Yet, I still have to find a solution to have studs on the bottom ...

I'll keep your solution in mind for when I can test it with real bricks. I'm just worried about not having enough studs for the greebling.

Just curious, in which situation did you meet the same problem ?

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This looks like a nice start. I always wondered why TLG hasn't made a set out of this. (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe it had more screentime than the B wing , yet we got 3 sets and and UCS for it yet nothing for this

Yes it has more screen time. And I think they added scenes with the Nebulon B on the Blueray / Digital edition of The Return of the Jedi. I really don't know why TLG didn't make any set of the Nebulon B, maybe it's because it's a complicated ship or hard to play with ?

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^Well, my solution leaves studs on every side, at least that was intended :) I was dealing with this when trying to build a SHIP for Shiptember 2014. EVentually I had to abandon the project, because of both lack of time and bricks. I have to mention though that my pillar was only 70 studs long. Still I think it would hold it's stiffness being extended to 90 studs.

By the way, I don't see physical reason why would your complex method of different offsets give more rigidity than simple shifting these two bricks in the middle by 8 studs, leaving both sides the same. I maybe see what your intention was but really I doubt you you get any extra stiffness from this. As I see it, your version only results in irregular and problematic ends.

Also instead of sandwitching that combination of 2x8's and 1x8's, you could use stacks of two 4x4's placed on every connection place. That would save some weight, costs (maybe) and these developed gaps (4x4x2/3) could be filled with some brackets so you could attach plates on the sides more easily.

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Samlr, any updates on your design?

Haven't had much time but I've been working on it. I've redesigned the front section to make it closer to scale as it was too short. Pictures are coming up soon :-)

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Haven't had much time but I've been working on it. I've redesigned the front section to make it closer to scale as it was too short. Pictures are coming up soon :-)

Can't wait to see them!

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This is looking very very good! I like the idea of using standard parts. Mine uses almost 500 different parts and is was crazy expensive. I am working on modifying mine atm moment :)

Keep it up!

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This is looking very very good! I like the idea of using standard parts. Mine uses almost 500 different parts and is was crazy expensive. I am working on modifying mine atm moment :)

Keep it up!

Thanks mortesv, it's nice that you are working on your Nebulon B again !

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