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Day Six: Under Pressure

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Day 6 Starts now.

The Rules

  1. Each player will be given a character to play, who will be aligned with either the Town or the Scum. To win the game, the Town must kill off all the Scum, while the Scum must outnumber the Town. Any Third-Party (neutral) characters have their own win conditions as outlined in their roles.
  2. Each day you will be able to vote to lynch a player. Voting should be done in the following format; Vote: Character (Player). Similarly, unvoting is to be done in the format; Unvote: Character (Player). No other format will be accepted. A majority vote is required to lynch a player.
  3. A game day will last until majority vote is reached up to a maximum of 72 hours. You may not vote in the first 24 hours. After the day has concluded, a night phase will commence, which will last a maximum of 48 hours. Night actions must be sent to the host in the first 24 hours of the night phase.
  4. The alignment of lynched players, as well as those that died during the night, will be revealed at the beginning of the next day.
  5. You may not quote or pretend to quote anything sent to or from you in PM with the game host. This includes all the details of your character and role, as well as any night action results. Role claims and reporting of night action results are acceptable, but in your own words only. Do not attempt to use the structure of your role PM to your advantage.
  6. You may not quote PMs from other players. Quoting PMs from other players will result in a same-day 3-vote penalty against you for each incident.
  7. Do not play the game outside the day-thread and PMs. Similarly, do not post out of character inside the thread; you must always play the role given to you. Game tactics and roles may only be discussed in the game thread or via PM with other players. Private discussion is done at your own risk and should be treated as part of the game.
  8. Writeboards will not be used in this game. All communication is to be done in the game day threads and via PM.
  9. If you are dead, your game is over. You may not comment on the game to any living or dead players in any form. This includes posting, private messaging, direct chat, email or any other form of online or offline communication. Any information you had becomes void and may not be passed on. The same applies for living players making contact with those who are no longer playing, no matter what the stated purpose. Both situations can appear to be an attempt to gain information or cause influence that would be unfair to the remaining living players. Whether you are still playing or have already died, if you are contacted inappropriately, please notify the host immediately. Violation of this rule will result in instant mod-kill and probably something worse after the game.
  10. You may not edit your posts. Editing your post will result in a 2-vote penalty. This is your only warning.
  11. You must post in every Day Thread. Failure to do so will result in a 1-vote penalty at the start of the next day.
  12. You must vote in every Day Thread. Failure to do so will result in a 2-vote penalty at the start of the next day.
  13. These rules will not change through the game. Do not pester the host about changing any rules.
  14. If you encounter a problem or have a question, please contact the host using your role PM. All other forms of communications will be ignored.

The Host

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Julia (Darkdragon)

The Living

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Oscar (Hinckley)

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Wild Dragon (Dragonator)

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Dansmith IV (Dannylonglegs)

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Patty (DarthPotato)

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Dave (Piratedave84)

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Fred (def)

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Cece (Cecilie)

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Billie (badboytje88)

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Amy (iamded)

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Katie (PsyKater)

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Sara (TheBoyWonder)

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Jimmy (JimButcher)

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Mike (Bob)

The Dead

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Zara (zakura) - Town - Killed Day One

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Trisha (TrumpetKing67) - Town - Lynched Day One

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Jane (JackJonespaw) - Town - Killed Day Two

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Walter (WaterbrickDown) - Scum - Lynched Day Two

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Matilda (Zepher) - Scum - Killed Day Two

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Shadell (Shadows) - Founder - Lynched Day Three

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Heather (fhomess) - Town - Killed Night Three

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Daisy (Scubacarrot) - Scum - Killed Day Four

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Tammy (Tamamono) - Scum - Lynched Day Four

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Ginny (Captain Genaro) - Town - Killed Day Five

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Penny (VolcanicPanik) - Town - Lynched Day Five

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Carl (CallMePie) - Town - Killed Night Five

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OK, so let's take inventory here. The Town just had the requisite "Phone it in" Day Five and we wake up to a mess. Let's take inventory:

1. Shadell was a neutral, the "Founder" of some sort of group. At least that means we won't have to deal with them any more. If there was any truth to what Shadell said, then she was the Cult Leader. Since we saw no suicides, it stands to reason she wasn't able to convert anyone. Why the gambit then? Frustrated with something? Caught by Beeker and Bunsen and needing to reveal too much? I would imagine this to be the case. Shadell fails to convert because Beeker is hiding, then gets wrapped up in the investigation of Matilda and sees an opportunity to win favor with the Town. Not sure why she wouldn't have converted on Night Two. Perhaps she targeted a non-convertible target....

2. Our Protector, Patty, was killed. We just found out yesterday that she was our protector and now she is gone.

3. Our Day Vig is also dead. Carl was the Day Vig. And yes, Daisy did guess this in our conversations.

So, if Shadell was indeed a neutral, then it's possible there would be two Scum-bags left, but who? Our Night Action results from Night Four may require additional analysis. Recently, in Matilda dreams, we've seen the Town rely too much on Night Action results. We need to be smart now, engage ourselves and figure out who is lying to us. There were two murders last night. I was assuming there was only one Scum left, but now that we know Shadell was neutral and there were two murders, it's possible there are two Scumbags left. Let's just be thankful the "Founder" of whatever group Shadell was leading is gone and we can focus on the horse killers.

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Oh Jesus... :facepalm: Who the hell is Penny? I can't keep these names straight. :blush:

:wall: Who the megabluck was killed? Oh God, Penny and we did that.

It's late here, I'm watching hedgehog porn and it took forever for the day to start. I should've just gone to sleep first. Sorry. Um...Sorry. :blush: I'm really sorry...

At least there weren't two Scum kills after all.

Someone shoot me. :facepalm:

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I was really hoping Ginny would turn up scum. Sorry Ginny. And Penny, I'm not so sorry in your case, because you were just a big question mark, and unhelpful when the votes were coming to you.

I'm at a loss for what to do now. Oscar has most of the info. I think at this point, if I were Oscar, I'd make a public list of who is 100% clear, who is 80% clear, and who isn't at all. We got rid of two unclear members yesterday, so hopefully the number of those still not clear is low.

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Well, this is disconcerting. Is it an OK time to say how relieved I am that I didn't Govern the Shadell vote? :blush: Well, I'm super relieved. That's how relieved I am. So, this probably means that there was a Cult, but we nipped it in the bud (if what Shadell said about them dying when their leader does is true.) That doesn't change the fact that his role being unblockable is really cheap. It's our great luck that he targeted the hider. Otherwise the Town might have been screwed. Also, I'm somewhat surprised that our Role states rather clearly that we win when the Scum are dead, yet there is/was a cult faction. :sceptic:

As far as Scum go, this news is also unfortunate. It means that instead of the five scum we thought we got, we only caught four, so there's at least one definitely still out there, but maybe two still. And here I thought that today would be the conclusion. :facepalm:

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Carl! :cry_sad: :cry_sad: :cry_sad: I'm finally back to full capacity, and I'm greeted with this! :cry_sad: Who will fix fences with me now? :sadnew:

Sigh. What a terrible morning. And Shadell was the founder of some infamously grey thing? Grey is never a good thing. With this news, it's a damn fine idea to relook at days 3 and 4, although I'm hoping the common theory is right and Shadell was the leader. With the 'Cult Hunter' role he claimed, it would make sense, and it's common knowledge that a leaderless cult is no cult at all. And with no suicides, we can assume he failed to convert anyone. And with that, we can take solace in that all we have left to worry about is what we were originally worrying about, these horse killing scum. I can't imagine there are more than two, likely there's only one, and we must be getting close to nailing him now. So! Time to take a gander at days 3 and 4, and look again at those who have been quiet, those who were pushing against Carl, Penny and Ginny. Hm, Ginny. At least we can cross her off our suspects list...

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I agree with the sentiment of putting all the cards on the table. With this many people left, there's only a matter of time until we weed out the last one or two Scum. Now that I see there weren't two kills last night (:blush: sorry...) and that Shadows was some sort of "group founder" aka Cult Leader :hmpf: (Why, God, why??) I think that being up against more than five Scum would be unfair, so I think there's only one left. Not to mention, Daisy was able to correctly guess a few of the roles, that she mentioned to me anyway. I let one slip, that was Beeker. I just outed Patty, sorry :blush:, so we may as well put all of our cards on the table. That will hold everyone accountable. We've confirmed a number of people, but I'm beginning to think a Godfather slipped through the investigation cracks, so it'd be nice to see everyone's balls on the table, although we're mostly female... :look: That way, everyone's accountable for what they say as compared to what other will be able to see they're doing when we get Night Action results in and info from Day openers.

If everyone agrees to this, they can just start spilling their roles and Night Actions targets. I'll just sit back and let you know if anyone is giving inconsistent info.

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Who was ever pushing against Carl?

Well, that's what I plan to look for. I should have said 'and anyone who was pushing against Carl, Penny or Ginny'.

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Well, this is disconcerting. Is it an OK time to say how relieved I am that I didn't Govern the Shadell vote? :blush: Well, I'm super relieved. That's how relieved I am. So, this probably means that there was a Cult, but we nipped it in the bud (if what Shadell said about them dying when their leader does is true.) That doesn't change the fact that his role being unblockable is really cheap. It's our great luck that he targeted the hider. Otherwise the Town might have been screwed. Also, I'm somewhat surprised that our Role states rather clearly that we win when the Scum are dead, yet there is/was a cult faction. :sceptic:

As far as Scum go, this news is also unfortunate. It means that instead of the five scum we thought we got, we only caught four, so there's at least one definitely still out there, but maybe two still. And here I thought that today would be the conclusion. :facepalm:

Carl! :cry_sad: :cry_sad: :cry_sad: I'm finally back to full capacity, and I'm greeted with this! :cry_sad: Who will fix fences with me now? :sadnew:

Sigh. What a terrible morning. And Shadell was the founder of some infamously grey thing? Grey is never a good thing. With this news, it's a damn fine idea to relook at days 3 and 4, although I'm hoping the common theory is right and Shadell was the leader. With the 'Cult Hunter' role he claimed, it would make sense, and it's common knowledge that a leaderless cult is no cult at all. And with no suicides, we can assume he failed to convert anyone. And with that, we can take solace in that all we have left to worry about is what we were originally worrying about, these horse killing scum. I can't imagine there are more than two, likely there's only one, and we must be getting close to nailing him now. So! Time to take a gander at days 3 and 4, and look again at those who have been quiet, those who were pushing against Carl, Penny and Ginny. Hm, Ginny. At least we can cross her off our suspects list...

There is the possibility of the Cult Leader having a backup. Some of our Town roles have had backups. Two that I know of. So maybe the...unblockable...unhideable-from...un-killable...Cult Leader...had a backup...so there'd be two unblockable...cult leaders...to fight. :sceptic: OK, that's unlikely. But, stranger things have happened. Now that we know (or can say with some degree of certainty) that Shadell was the Cult Leader, we have to assume that he wasn't able to convert anyone. At first, when I say the gray, I was afraid that maybe he was taking the lynch to protect the real Cult Leader, but Scouty says in the comic that Shadell was the "Founder". I take that to mean that he was the Cult Leader himself. Please, God, tell me there aren't different Cult ranks, one being founder, which is different from Leader... :look: ... is it a democratic cult? Are they electing a new leader every night? :facepalm: I really hope that's not the case. No, we have to assume that it wouldn't be setup that way. If there was another faction around, I think we would've seen some evidence of it by now. I say we take the advice of Julia and focus on the horse killers. I think that's why she said it. The Cult died with Shadell and should no longer be our concern...

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Well, that's what I plan to look for. I should have said 'and anyone who was pushing against Carl, Penny or Ginny'.

Why wouldn't people be pushing for Penny and Ginny? They were just hanging around, not doing much

Oscar, I don't think you should make roles public, just a clear, likely clear, and unknown. The ones who would be clear would be the ones who have confirmed their towniness to you through actions, and not simply cop-checked. I consider myself cleared through lack of actions, like when you tested me with that PM, and I gave you the correct/honest answer, which was contrary to what you'd fed daisy. But, people who gave lunches to you should have little value. Don't out roles yet though.

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That'll take some time to figure out how exactly to say it. There's only a couple people unconfirmed at this point. Mike is the most likely suspect. Sorry, Mike. I know you gave me your lunch and the investigation on you came back showing no object, so you didn't likely have an Action. But, we don't have you confirmed at this point.

I still have a huge problem with Katie and so do others, but it looks like enough Actions have focused on her in the last two nights to clear her. More on her later. I'm waiting for confirmation on something that should end the Katie controversy once and for all...one way or another.

Billie and Sara have been confirmed more by their actions than Night Actions. Both were helpful with their lunches, which would be a smart Scum move. I'll have to look back through communications with others to come up with more suspects, but for now, that's all we have to work on. I'll let you know as soon as something starts piecing together...

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I think the scum decided on day one to 'help' town with their lunches, as shown by Daisy bringing it up in public day one.

Mike could be scum. Daisy fought with me to get everyone to ignore her scumminess, but I wouldn't put it past her and Mike to get Mike on that bandwagon, flinging crap at him too for literally no reason, other than to look innocent in comparison.

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What. A. Mess. I hope now we are more focused on finding the last scumbags.

I think we should wait another day with revealing our roles. As you said there will be probably a couple of chances left if we fail again tonight. But I think we should sort out what we have first and see where this will lead us.

And not shoot too fast :wink::wall: Revealing the protector.

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So Shadell was the cult leader after all. I think maybe she couldn't convert unless she found a certain someone first. I think if she could just convert every night, the cult would have been too powerful. And maybe it wasn't really a cult in the traditional sense, maybe she could start a second scum team. She seemed very obsessed with finding out who the day killer was. Maybe she needed to convert the day killer to become a second scum team with a killer? Well, it's all speculation of course, and doesn't really matter anymore since she's dead. At least I think we can be safe there are no more cult members out there.

Now then, on to the more pressing matters. Finding the remaining scum. I'd like to point a finger at Billie. She very conveniently came forward yesterday saying she had watched Oscar and found him to be targeted by a certain someone. Now, from what I've heard so far, there seems to be good reason to believe this certain someone is not the killer.

So then, Billie. Why did you conveniently save your lunch for that long, and then suddenly, on the exact night someone targets Oscar for a kill, you choose to watch him? And then you come running forward with that result, after keeping it to yourself for so long that you had a watcher lunch? Did you hope we would jump the gun and lynch that person? Did you hope it would make us look at you as cleared, since you helped out with your lunch?

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I still have a huge problem with Katie and so do others, but it looks like enough Actions have focused on her in the last two nights to clear her. More on her later. I'm waiting for confirmation on something that should end the Katie controversy once and for all...one way or another.

Billie and Sara have been confirmed more by their actions than Night Actions. Both were helpful with their lunches, which would be a smart Scum move. I'll have to look back through communications with others to come up with more suspects, but for now, that's all we have to work on. I'll let you know as soon as something starts piecing together...

I am personally for lynching Katie. Yesterday night nobody was murdered. Oscar said it was because the scum targeted him with their night kill and he was wearing his bullet proof vest. Oscar didn't knew that I ate my yummy can of peaches that day and was able to watch him at night. I saw the first person to target Oscar and that was Katie.

Yesterday I told you this story but I didn't mention the name of the person. I gave her a chance to come forward and explain her actions. She hasn't done so.Thinking this all might go over if she'd just ignore it. Nobody will listen to silent shy Billie. Well not anymore!

For I shall point the finger of suspicion: Katie (PsyKater)

If nothing good comes up and you don't have a satisfying reason for your actions I WILL be voting for you.

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Now, with the brother story, Katie was the one who 'went' to Daisy? It may have been Daisy's winning disposition that made Katie trust her on day one, but, if that was the case, then more likely it was part of Daisy's aggressive day one strategy. (I'm working off of memory that that was what happened.)

Katie, you need to fill us in on what you were doing, but also let us know exactly why it was you trusted Daisy to help you on day one.

*What you were doing with Oscar, that is.

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Thing is, Katie, questions like that are time-sensitive. You can't look like you're consulting anyone, for our sake. We need to know we can trust you. Checking your mailbox, I see you were here 20 minutes ago and aren't here now. That's not good. When you're in a situation like this, it has to be a top priority, and you need to reassure us when there's doubt. You chose not to.

Ignoring Billie and my questions, along with the non-statements you made eatlier today, plus the circumstantial points I laid out before, puts you at the top of the lynch today.

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I haven't been cleared because nobody has really cleared me. You shouldn't waste your lynch on me.

Is there anyone else that knew Carl was the day-vig? Oscar, you did, but are you talking to anyone else that you feel you can no longer trust?

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I haven't been cleared because nobody has really cleared me. You shouldn't waste your lynch on me.

Is there anyone else that knew Carl was the day-vig? Oscar, you did, but are you talking to anyone else that you feel you can no longer trust?

Thanks, town will get right on clearing you, ASAP. ヾ(@⌒ー⌒@)ノ

That's gotta be the weakest excuse I heard in all my years on the job. As I said to Ginny yesterday, if you're vanilla, you need to work overtime to let people know you're town. Mike, you know this. You totally know this. And if you make excuses that you don't, you're likely scummy. I accept no excuses from you ever.

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Is there anyone else that knew Carl was the day-vig? Oscar, you did, but are you talking to anyone else that you feel you can no longer trust?

He said Daisy guessed on Carl being the Vig, so the information was probably passed on to the rest of the scum. But Daisy's been dead for a few days now, so I wonder why they didn't kill Carl until now?

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Because they were wasting their time trying to kill Oscar on night four?

They did kill someone else who Daisy thought was the doctor on night three.

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I know, but it's still interesting they didn't try to kill Carl right away.

And if that's true then that means that they could be going down a list of Daisy's guesses of who is who.

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Ignoring Billie and my questions, along with the non-statements you made eatlier today, plus the circumstantial points I laid out before, puts you at the top of the lynch today.

Plus not replying to Oscar in PM. I know he contacted you and he would let me know if something came up. So far I haven't heard back from Oscar so my guess is you haven't been keeping in touch via PM either.

On a more personal note, Amy, may I ask you out on a date? :wub:

I haven't been cleared because nobody has really cleared me. You shouldn't waste your lynch on me.

Is there anyone else that knew Carl was the day-vig? Oscar, you did, but are you talking to anyone else that you feel you can no longer trust?

That is no reason NOT to vote for you, that is actually a reason we might want to consider voting for you.

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