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#1 Aaron Morse

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 02:27 AM

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Hi there all. I've been working on a ship for quite some time now and am nearing completion, would've been done sooner but I've done a couple redesigns and the kids got at it a couple times too. got any suggestions for the rigging? I've never liked the plastic look to the store bought ones, I'm experimenting with those lego strings now and it looks pretty decent.  Check it out

The Brickshelf folder

http://shop.lego.com...f7-215a81322d04

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 03:06 AM

View PostAaron Morse, on Jul 27 2006, 10:27 PM, said:

Hi there all. I've been working on a ship for quite some time now and am nearing completion, would've been done sooner but I've done a couple redesigns and the kids got at it a couple times too. got any suggestions for the rigging? I've never liked the plastic look to the store bought ones, I'm experimenting with those lego strings now and it looks pretty decent.  Check it out

http://www.brickshel....cgi?m=morsea10

Also built my own 18 pounder cannons too!

http://shop.lego.com...f7-215a81322d04

Aaron


First of all, congradulations on making the first pirate related factory item I have seen... and posting it for the rest of us! thats awesome.


second, bravo on the ship! i think its looking really good! Is there a praticular ship you were modeling it after? whereas the gunports are bigger then normal lego gunports, i think they still work, as i always felt lego ones were a tad bit too small. i love the cannons, how are they next to a fig though? And wouldn't they be larger calliber then 18 pounders if you were doing minifig scale? just wondering. but anyway i cant wait to see it with the rigging and sails, what you have started is looking pretty good.
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 03:48 AM

Hey that 18 pounder looks great and at 2.97 direct from lego it's cheaper than most cannons on bricklink.  

Your ship is coming along great as well look's like it will be something to be reckoned with!

Keep it up

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 04:21 AM

Excellent ship so far!  Huge undertakings like this are far and few between, so it's always a pleasure to view them!  I've seen some types of string rigging used before, but it's been difficult finding any pictures on brickshelf.

It looks like he did all of that by hand, unless you can preorder the stuff...

http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=112101

I noticed the Ig-88 in the background.  You aren't a big LEGO Star Wars collector by any chance?

~yarr phes, he already posted the url to download it and it's a rather rudimentary design.   :-/

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 04:21 AM

Lets take a look at the cannon...

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What did you use to make the barrel out of?


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Posted 28 July 2006 - 12:21 PM

I based the ship on the HMS Indefatiguable and on the most excellent pics at this site.  Although the more I design it the closer it looks to the HMS Surprise/Rose

http://members.visi.net/~markmcb/

SkaforHire,
Yeah it may be more like a 24 pounder, which would be ok for the indefatiguaqble. It looks pretty good with a cre of three or four gathered around, I'll try to post some pics over the weekend.

Barry,
I love starwars lego. It seems to be the only way I can get imperial soldiers for my ship! *joke*  Actually my kids seem to have "permanently borrowed" most of mine and have amassed a fair collection.

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The cannons are made of 5 of those roundy 2x2 pieces, 2 of those 1x2 bricks with a hole through it and one of those roundy cap things (real technical sounding eh?)
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 12:38 PM

Great ship, great site, great cannon design, when do you think it will be finished??

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 02:22 PM

That's a very impressive ship you have there, Mr. Morse, I can't wait to see it finished. Whoever ones that website is amazing at 3D rendering.
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 03:49 PM

That is a great MOC! Thanks so much for sharing. I love you attention to detail, especially the built in ladder on the side of the hull (sorry I notice the strangest of things). The scale is huge, I wouldn't want to mess with that bad boy!

As for string, you might be able to get away with very little actually because from what it seems you are at about a similiar scale as this previously mentioned MOC. I really like this approach to rigging.

I'm sure you'll figure something out that blows us away! Thanks for sharing.

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 06:46 PM

Actually we all should get used to this size of ships, actually this size is pretty normal for a real ship, we are all used at ''little'' ships mostly build on LEGO hulls, take a look at the  3D HMS Indefatiguable, it looks like a normal sized ship, compared to another lego ship, it would be great if we all should build ''big'' ships like this, however there are obstacles: amount of parts, you will need lots of parts for this size of ships, and offcourse, you need proper skills for it...

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 11:45 PM

View PostAaron Morse, on Jul 28 2006, 12:27 PM, said:

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Also built my own 18 pounder cannons too!

http://shop.lego.com...f7-215a81322d04

Aaron

Mr Morse, do you get to see who else is buying this design or downloading the pieces?


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Posted 29 July 2006 - 01:45 AM

View PostMister Phes, on Jul 28 2006, 11:45 PM, said:

View PostAaron Morse, on Jul 28 2006, 12:27 PM, said:


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Also built my own 18 pounder cannons too!

http://shop.lego.com...f7-215a81322d04

Aaron

Mr Morse, do you get to see who else is buying this design or downloading the pieces?


I don't know that's a good question...I'll check that out and let you know.
btw everyone thanks for the feedback!

View PostMr Tiber, on Jul 28 2006, 06:46 PM, said:

Actually we all should get used to this size of ships, actually this size is pretty normal for a real ship, we are all used at ''little'' ships mostly build on LEGO hulls, take a look at the  3D HMS Indefatiguable, it looks like a normal sized ship, compared to another lego ship, it would be great if we all should build ''big'' ships like this, however there are obstacles: amount of parts, you will need lots of parts for this size of ships, and offcourse, you need proper skills for it...

Arrr

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bricklink has been my best friend for a year now, and now with this "lego factory"...ah life is good

also as promised...pics of cannons with crew and a special pic of my "basket full o cannons" I just posted them to Brickshelf so it may not clear for public viewing until the moderators can be assured that my lego pirate men are all fully clothed.  :)

http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=196568
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Posted 30 July 2006 - 12:41 AM

Behold! The basket full of cannons!

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Just how many cannon are in that basket Mr Morse?


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Posted 30 July 2006 - 01:06 AM

View PostMister Phes, on Jul 30 2006, 12:41 AM, said:

Behold! The basket full of cannons!

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Just how many cannon are in that basket Mr Morse?

26, there's enough cannons to fill all the ports on the gun deck.  I'll need another 8-12 for the top deck.   I've got 16 marines (red soldiers), and about 80 sailors ready to man her and about 30 some french (blue soldiers) for them to skirmish with while ashore.  Although my kids just boarded the Challenger and wiped out the crew with IG88, Count Dooku, Boba Fett and a couple imperial troops (stormtroopers), it was quite a massacre, muskets and sabres against lasers and lightsabres ekk! Kids just have no sense of historical accuracy.

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Posted 30 July 2006 - 02:24 PM

Is there a reason why the LDD cannon and the first cannon are a bit different?...the end of the barrel

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http://shop.lego.com...f7-215a81322d04

I also want to ask you what you used for buildin' the hull, is it build with invert slopes or with normal bricks?

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Posted 30 July 2006 - 03:14 PM

I am awe struck...This is the most amazing ship I have seen, ever, too date. WONDERFUL. I would comment more but I am going to the restaurant.

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Posted 30 July 2006 - 05:43 PM

View PostMr Tiber, on Jul 30 2006, 02:24 PM, said:

Is there a reason why the LDD cannon and the first cannon are a bit different?...the end of the barrel

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http://shop.lego.com...f7-215a81322d04

I also want to ask you what you used for buildin' the hull, is it build with invert slopes or with normal bricks?

Arrr

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That pic is about a year old so the design has changed abit, I originally had a flat 2x2 round on the end but discovered that leaving it off made the end look more "deeper" hence more real.

Yup I used one row of inverted 3x2 slopes, then two rows or 2x2 inverted slopes but the next section I used Aaron's secret patent idea for ship hull design.  its actually not a secret its just really hard to explian...I'll post some pics on Brickshelf shortly but again there will be a delay while the moderators make sure my boats exposed secrets include just lego :)
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Posted 30 July 2006 - 09:47 PM

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It looks like he did all of that by hand, unless you can preorder the stuff...

http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=112101
Good God!!!
That is one amazing ship!
That is one of the best looking lego ships, period!

Wow!

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 12:28 AM

thanks for all the nice words, and for that, heres some more pics.

http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=196877

notice hurricane "Riley" beside the boat, and the last pic best shows how I angled the hull on rows 4 and 5.
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Posted 31 July 2006 - 12:52 AM

My initial reaction to a project this size is that its too big for my liking. This ship, however, shows how a large ship can be made, while still keeping it playable. Unlike that massive Galleon in another post, this ship looks great and has open access to most areas of the ship.

So far, I like it, and I usually hate bigger ships!


*y* for playability  *y* for design and look of the ship.

Keep it up, I can't wait to see this thing finished.

P.S

Love the homemade cannons

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 12:57 AM

View Posttexas_jack_can, on Jul 31 2006, 12:52 AM, said:

My initial reaction to a project this size is that its too big for my liking. This ship, however, shows how a large ship can be made, while still keeping it playable. Unlike that massive Galleon in another post, this ship looks great and has open access to most areas of the ship.

So far, I like it, and I usually hate bigger ships!


*y* for playability  *y* for design and look of the ship.

Keep it up, I can't wait to see this thing finished.

P.S

Love the homemade cannons


Its even got a fairly large pull off section right between the main and mizzen masts just aft of the stairs below for easier access for us "larger" kids.  Also planning on having the aft cabin slide off too.
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Posted 04 September 2006 - 09:19 PM

new pics....just waiting for two more orders from Bl and I'll have everything I need to complete it!

http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=200620
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Posted 04 September 2006 - 09:34 PM

Deeplinks would be nice, the folder isn't public yet :-(

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 10:00 PM

View PostMr Tiber, on Sep 4 2006, 09:34 PM, said:

Deeplinks would be nice, the folder isn't public yet :-(


whatsa deep link...I specialize in ships not internet.
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Posted 05 September 2006 - 03:07 AM

View PostAaron Morse, on Sep 4 2006, 10:00 PM, said:

View PostMr Tiber, on Sep 4 2006, 09:34 PM, said:

Deeplinks would be nice, the folder isn't public yet :-(


whatsa deep link...I specialize in ships not internet.

Awesome work, Aaron. I look forward to seeing her finished!

Deeplinks are links to images on Brickshelf which are available before the folder is moderated.

You can get a deeplink by clicking on the image until you get a URL which ends in ".jpg"

In this case, the directory is:
http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=200620

For example, a non deeplink picture is:
http://www.brickshel...y.cgi?i=2005314

And the deeplink is (ie reached by clicking on the image above):
http://www.brickshel...-6/p1030488.jpg
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