Why is 41999 NOT worth buying

[peter_m]

As I am running out of money (bought 8110 and 9396 already in the past 3 months) I am trying to find any drawbacks of 41999 that will discourage me from getting one.

I have found few:

1. Not so technically complex

2. Expensive (in Poland it will be ~$245 - S@H delivers it "for free" but shipping cost is already there, included in the price)

3. Parts in unique colors that will not easily blend with standard colors in order to build MOCs

Anything else?

[Meatman]

Oh no, not another thread about this set. I'll bite.

The main draw for me is the color choice being so unique and the new wheels of course, but like you said, you are then limited in that color for other MOCs. I also really like the packaging which is I believe a first. This is no doubt going to be one of the sets that increases in value rather easily for anyone that is looking to make an investment. I am definitely getting one, but I am unsure what exactly I want to do with it.

[Anio]

Seriously, you need ideas to prevent yourself from buying a lego model ? Oo

You should rather look for ideas in order to create interesting threads.

[Junpei]

I'm in the exact same boat as Meatman. I totally think 41999 is worth buying, although I wish the dark blue wasn't in a limited edition set, so now it seems there won't be many (if any) dark blue MOC's. This is kind of a worthless topic tho, just go to the 41999 discussion...

[Blakbird]

There is no reason not to buy a limited edition custom Technic set. Any excuses are clearly invalid. If money is an issue, you can always sell some unneeded internal organs. It would be worth it.

[legolijntje]

The only reason I can think of not to buy it, is if you don't have enough money. I don't think there are any other reasons...

There is no reason not to buy a limited edition custom Technic set. Any excuses are clearly invalid. If money is an issue, you can always sell some unneeded internal organs. It would be worth it.

Well, you have probably no organs left

[Larrynautik]

Seriously, you need ideas to prevent yourself from buying a lego model ? Oo

You should rather look for ideas in order to create interesting threads.

Lol I totally agree

[jorgeopesi]

Some of us and I hope I'm not the only one, we don´t buy sets unless they have many parts that interest us and this is not the case. Limited edition... I don´t want a set to have it in a cabinet but I understand that there are collectors.

[The Ghost Racer]

Also it does not bring almost no innovation than the model on which it is based, say the chassis is identical to that of 9398, and this certainly does not lead me to spend my money on something worse than the previous model .. yes, it's great as a set, but if I remove it I do not know how to use pezzidato that the chassis is red (and incidentally is also badly matched to the body) and the body is dark blue.

There are people interested in collecting the sets, but I am not among them: if I buy a set I can not resist the pow er to modify elimando defects or to make it more functional.

[BondemandClausen]

I don't see the point is this topic. Why make a string, with such negative undertone, with only one purpose, to talk down this limited edition.

The premises of the competion was clear, and it was free for everyone to enter it.

The Winner gave his best efford, and you as fans voted for his contribution, and gave him the opportunity, that many of you might dream of... to get the chance to see you model come true, and be commercialized by TLG itself.

I really think its inappropiate to make such string, and the only reason i can see, is that there must be a lot of envy from the narrator of this string.

[peter_m]

Dear fellow LEGO fans - if you find this thread dull and unnecessary - then why bother commenting?

My main motivation to create this thread was to separate sceptic opinions regarding 41999 from the main thread flooded by appreciative posts. I expected to get responses such as the one from The Ghost Racer (thank you kind sir!).

And no - you are mistaken BondemandClausen - this thread's purpose is not to depreciate this set and it's creator - but to take a look at it from a different perspective.

[rm8]

Ok, Cant hold it anymore. I have fill this post with pictures.

Peter, Look at it again

Just imagine: Blue Baltic sea, blue sky, blue crawler and you...:)

Are you sure you dont want? Be the men, Just say to yourself: I dont need it, I dont need it, it is too simple and similar to 9398. I dont need it.... (But back-view is nice, right?)

:)))

May be too sweet, Ok. This will be little bit colder.

Edited July 22, 2013 by rm8

[Bubble]

I have a few:

• low clearance under axles
  
• not much to do but drive back and forth
  
• to me, there is nothing wrong with the body, but watch the video to see what is wrong with the chassis.
  
  

Personally, I think you would be better off buying the Mobile Crane MK ||

Edited July 23, 2013 by Bubble

[Blakbird]

Asking people to tell you why not to buy this model ends up sounding a lot like asking people to trash it. Perhaps a better question would be "If I can only afford one Technic model this year, which one should it be?" This question allows people to focus on the positives of each set and rate them accordingly. For example, I like 41999 a lot and plan to buy it, but if I could only get one set this year it would probably be the crane. The main reason for this is because I already own 9398 and the crane is the biggest Technic set ever.

[Tubby]

I agree with Blakbird, while I've already let my thoughts on the set be known I wouldn't ask people to give me an excuse for not buying it for one main reason:

I'm able to make decisions for myself because only I know what I can afford and what I do or don't want.

Decide what you want and go for it, don't bother posting threads about it on the internet, no one cares what you do.

What Bubble has said applies to both 41999 and 9398 as it's chassis related, so he probably won't bother getting either.

[Traktor]

Even though this is a set made by "one of us", it is never the less a product with commercial interest in focus. So yes, you should be able to be a little critical without being accused for being jealous or just trying to discredit the designer. And another thing that I find a little bit odd is that the only review of this on Eurobrick is made by the designer himself, it would have been much better if he had let someone more independent review it. And I know that people here tend to give positive feedback no matter what someone have put together, but let face it, we are all grown up people that can take some constructive critical feedback? Or am I wrong?

[peter_m]

I wonder why posts like "why should I get X or Y?" / "you should definitely get X or Y because..." does not get so much attention and responses like "your question is pointless"/"you should decide for yourself"?

Thank you Traktor for your input! But I need to make it straight - there have been also reviews by other people :)

Edited July 23, 2013 by peter_m

[rm8]

Even though this is a set made by "one of us", it is never the less a product with commercial interest in focus. So yes, you should be able to be a little critical without being accused for being jealous or just trying to discredit the designer. And another thing that I find a little bit odd is that the only review of this on Eurobrick is made by the designer himself, it would have been much better if he had let someone more independent review it. And I know that people here tend to give positive feedback no matter what someone have put together, but let face it, we are all grown up people that can take some constructive critical feedback? Or am I wrong?

There are at least 3 reviews here,

My review

Full review

Comparison with 9398

Comparison review of 9398 and 41999 (use translate button at the right side of page)

Review from Masked Builder (eurobricks.com)

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=84293

Review from Anio (techlug.fr)

http://www.techlug.fr/review-lego-technic/41999/tout-terrain-41999-markus-kossman-2013

And one more is coming, as I know, from one of the best reviewers - Technicbricks.com.

Edited July 23, 2013 by rm8

[Traktor]

There are at least 3 reviews here,

My review

Full review

Comparison with 9398

Comparison review of 9398 and 41999 (use translate button at the right side of page)

Review from Masked Builder (eurobricks.com)

http://www.eurobrick...showtopic=84293

Review from Anio (techlug.fr)

http://www.techlug.f...us-kossman-2013

And one more is coming, as I know, from one of the best reviewers - Technicbricks.com.

The I will have to apologise. But as far as I know the first review came from you, right?

Edited July 23, 2013 by Traktor

[Bricksonwheels]

What a useless discussion, ....this is forum garbage. It is all a matter of taste and money priority. Who needs others to tell them not to spend their money on something...... ??

I think there will be 75% of people in my social live that will think spending hundreds of Euro's on Lego is stupid, and then they buy a 500,- fishing rod, which i think is stupid.... but who cares?

[07jkearney]

What a useless discussion, ....this is forum garbage. It is all a matter of taste and money priority. Who needs others to tell them not to spend their money on something...... ??

I think there will be 75% of people in my social live that will think spending hundreds of Euro's on Lego is stupid, and then they buy a 500,- fishing rod, which i think is stupid.... but who cares?

Aptly put Bricksonwheels, you summarized my views brilliantly.

[Paul Boratko]

Next year at this very same time when you see what people on Ebay are paying for this set in used condition, you'll wish that you had made the purchase...

Every Flagship Technic set(and most regular sets) increase in value rather quickly once retired and this being a limited edition will be even more sought-after...

[afoldad]

Decide what you want and go for it, don't bother posting threads about it on the internet, no one cares what you do.

What a useless discussion, ....this is forum garbage. It is all a matter of taste and money priority. Who needs others to tell them not to spend their money on something...... ??

Everyone on this forum is entitled to their opinion. The OP was not disrespectful in any way. They were not trying to tell people to not buy the set, they were simply looking for reasons why someone might not want to buy it.

Myself, I'm still on the fence. I make very good money and can certainly afford multiple sets this year. I'm happy to hear the positives and negatives of such a purchase. Just because I can afford to buy this set, doesn't mean it's a wise purchase for me.

Truth be told, I think this thread is a good idea because it helps me make an informed decision. While I'm capable of making up my own mind about the purchase, it's helpful to hear other opinions too. Like others have said, if you don't like the thread, don't read it. There's nothing violating forum rules here.

[Dorino]

- 9 Power Function Parts

- New Colour

- Fancy rims

- Fancy everything

- 100% money refund (maybe more)

=

41999

Edited July 23, 2013 by Dorino

[allanp]

For me, all reasons not to buy it stem from the chassis, which I have already spoke at length about. In summary, it's not lifelike at all, it drives forwards/backwards and steers and has suspention, and that's it. It is engineered well but there is very little complexity to be engineered in the first place, it's focus is on being an RC toy rather than being a technic model (due to sacrificing lifelike/awesome mechanics in favour of being driven like a toy) and for the money, there are far better perfoming toys for people of all ages on the market. The only innovations and the only thing that makes the base crawler desireable to me is the v2 reciever and servo motor. However, the bodywork on the new version is great in dark blue and the rare colour (for MOCing) isn't really an issue for me because when TBs asked us what colour it should come in, dark blue was the winner. TLG knows we love the colour and so i'm sure we'll get more sets in this colour in the future, and so having these parts already in dark blue will be great. My recommendation would be, if you have the original crawler, and can sell it for a good price, and you really want the new one but don't have the money, sell the old one to get the new one, or perhaps consider skipping 42009 to save some cash. Whilst 42009 is way more complex, not a single mechanism, apart from maybe the winch and cable driven boom extention, works remotely like the real thing (so the lifelike mechanisms are the ones made from string?!!!!) and are mainly a motor driving several functions through 16t clutch gears and drive rings, do you really need to pay it's huge price tag for 1000 more pins and the same old mechanisms we've had time and time again?