Dreamweb Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) This thread is linked to the The Pirate LEGO DirectoryA "must visit" thread for anyone interesed in Pirate LEGO I know there's already a What's your favourite Lego poll, however since this section is called Castle and Pirates (although includes some discussions on other themes, but this poll is clearly suggested by the name alone), we shall see which one of those two lines is a master here, and which one's a slave. As the topic's founder I'll remain objective, but only till my next post :-D So if you were to choose between one of those two, what would it be? Edited March 24, 2006 by mister_phes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xwingyoda Posted October 25, 2005 oh oh, hide, Dreamweb is starting the war of the forum themes :D :P !!!! As a little kid, City and Castle were my absolute favs !!!! After came a loooooong dark age and I missed lots and lots of those two themes !! I am not a huge fan of the KK2 sets as a whole (even if there are some great parts in them). I'll have to say Pirates !! Just love this theme !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snefroe Posted October 25, 2005 i voted pirates as well nice details, great sets with lots of minifigs, great images in cataloges,... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sting Posted October 25, 2005 This is a really hard choice... I chose Pirates.. based on the amount of money I just freekin' spent on a Skulls Eye Schooner (came today! And its a force! :-D ) Although I love Castle... and one day... maybe one day.. I will own a mighty collection... (although I have quite a bit of Castle stuff anyway heheh) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuvieD Posted October 25, 2005 Aaargh pirates can lick my blood stained boots! Castles, knights, lords and ladies, peasants, feasts, tournament and jest. What better life can we know. Castle all the way! ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamweb Posted October 25, 2005 It's not a war by any means! :) Just a friendly game. I'm especially interested in explanations of your choices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Dillon Posted October 25, 2005 Castle all the way! :oD Pirates shouldn't stand a chance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Phes Posted October 25, 2005 Pirates would appear somewhat more discussable in this forum at the moment. Now why is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gylman Posted October 25, 2005 It seems to me that there are more varied and interesting things that can be done with a castle than with a ship. If you will look up and down Brickshelf, unique and stunning castle masterpieces likely outnumber Pirate masterpieces 20:1. I have BSB and SES and love them. But I could live without Lego Pirates. Lego without castles is an oxymoron. Of course, to compare apples to apples, we are not talking about that pile o'crap they call KK2, or King Leo, etc. We are talking about King's Castle, Black Monarch, Black Falcon, Guarded Inn, and even some of the Forestmen. It's Classic Castle for me, peeps. Gyl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sting Posted October 25, 2005 I think all Castle starting in the early 80's(the 70's castle wasnt for me.. I must be too young to get it... although its 10000x better than this new crap) was damn good. Until the Fright Knights(which were very weak in my opinion). Ninja shortly gave Castle some nice quality, but besides those cool soldiers from the King Leo line(the ones with the brimmed helmets), Castle has sucked. Lego Pirate gave a pretty good display of strength through its entire run too, except the 'silly' islanders(wasn't a big fan), and the weaker ship designs of the last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuvieD Posted October 26, 2005 mister_phes Posted Pirates would appear somewhat more discussable in this forum at the moment. Now why is that? Pirates are spammers |-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Phes Posted October 26, 2005 It seems to me that there are more varied and interesting things that can be done with a castle than with a ship. If you will look up and down Brickshelf, unique and stunning castle masterpieces likely outnumber Pirate masterpieces 20:1. The pirate theme isn't merely limited to ships!!! Behold... Eldorado Fortress This is practically a sea side castle. Anyway, the point is the pirate theme IS just a versatile as the castle theme if people researched and used their imagination. Whatever the Castle theme has the pirate theme can do it with a Caribbean twist! No nerrrr! I'm going to have to post more MOCs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Phes Posted October 26, 2005 mister_phes Posted Pirates would appear somewhat more discussable in this forum at the moment. Now why is that? Pirates are spammers |-D Our threads are highly intelligible! Thank you for contributing to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuvieD Posted October 26, 2005 It seems to me that there are more varied and interesting things that can be done with a castle than with a ship. If you will look up and down Brickshelf, unique and stunning castle masterpieces likely outnumber Pirate masterpieces 20:1. The pirate theme isn't merely limited to ships!!! Behold... Eldorado Fortress This is practically a sea side castle. Anyway, the point is the pirate theme IS just a versatile as the castle theme if people researched and used their imagination. Whatever the Castle theme has the pirate theme can do it with a Caribbean twist! No nerrrr! I'm going to have to post more MOCs... That's right bring up the Eldorado Fortress. That is always a safe example as there are so few people who dislike the set. Pirates can be versitile but it is LEGO's fault they are not. Even with imagination Pirates aren't able to achieve the romanticized ideals knights of chivalry possess. Even if you could, then Robin hood and his trusty yeomen swing onto the scene and reaffirm the pure goodness of castle. If that isn't enough look to the likes of fantasy and dragons. Few pirates can claim to have battled anything more dangerous than a sea monster. My first LEGO love was pirates. I soon got into castle and have been hooked since. Though I believe in diversity. i use many pirates in my MOCs . . . as castle slaves. :D Our threads are highly intelligible! Thank you for contributing to them. I try. LEGO spammers of the world unite! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Phes Posted October 26, 2005 Pirates can be versitile but it is LEGO's fault they are not. LEGO did produce some degree of versatility within the pirate theme. For example a ship is very different to a fortress! The Indigo Islanders were quite different to the rest of the pirate sets however they probably more closely resemble something from the South Pacific than the Caribbean. The Imperial Armada could have have offered something vastly different but unfortunately it went nowhere. Still there are plenty more areas LEGO could have took the pirate theme but unfortunately didn't. Even with imagination Pirates aren't able to achieve the romanticized ideals knights of chivalry possess. Even if you could, then Robin hood and his trusty yeomen swing onto the scene and reaffirm the pure goodness of castle. You aint be readin too much into the genre have yer laddie? If that isn't enough look to the likes of fantasy and dragons. Few pirates can claim to have battled anything more dangerous than a sea monster. There is a high degree of fantasy within the pirate genre! And what do you mean by sea monster? Like a gigantic kraken or sea serpents no less fierce than dragons? In fact there are sea dragons as well! What of mermaids and undine? What of cult religions and practices like Voodoo and hoodoo? What of Ghost ships like the Flying Dutchman? And then we can get into the spiritual believes of the Incas, Aztecs and Mayans... Need I go on? My first LEGO love was pirates. I soon got into castle and have been hooked since. Though I believe in diversity. i use many pirates in my MOCs . . . as castle slaves. :D You have lost sight of your true self! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sting Posted October 26, 2005 Not to mention that the term PIRATES(and thus the theme!) are a much more specific term than CASTLE. Castle basically includes anything in the Middle Ages - from 500AD-1600AD(Ninja I believe took place in the late 1500's... but I could be totally wrong). The PIRATES Line only consists of PIRATES, Imperial NAVYMEN to top the Pirates, and any characters on Islands, such as ISLANDERs. It is all supposed to take place in the Carribean. (But like many said, those Islanders are definately not of the Carribean type... Mayans/Azteks would have been 50x better) Pirates won't meet much inland people, including Inland Native Groups, Colonial Armies, Cossacks, or Revolutionaries. (They of course probably did at times but certainly not all the time.) If PIRATES was called COLONIAL, or something 1600-1800 ish (Englightment? Gunpowder? I'm not sure what this exact age was called...), than we could include EVERYTHING that I mentioned and more. We could even have a BROTHERS GRIMM line... lol... that'd be kind of cool... Imagine Napoleonic Lego? It would be just as good as castle, what with Musketeers, Pikemen, Hussars, Dragoons, Cannon carriages, Forts(someones been playing AOE3! :-D ), and of course... PIRATES AND IMPERIAL GUARDS!! Castle is so much more General than Pirates... if only it weren't. It comes down to the fact that lego released much more sets and has had much more subthemes for Castle. This adds alot... although a healthy imagination can do anything... I'm still for Pirates.... I just wish it was expanded or will be sometime in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Phes Posted October 26, 2005 Imagine Napoleonic Lego? It would be just as good as castle, what with Musketeers, Pikemen, Hussars, Dragoons, Cannon carriages, Forts(someones been playing AOE3! :-D ), and of course... PIRATES AND IMPERIAL GUARDS!! You need to get playing Ages of Empires 3 - that's all about the colonisation of the New World. It comes down to the fact that lego released much more sets and has had much more subthemes for Castle. This adds alot... although a healthy imagination can do anything... I'm still for Pirates.... I just wish it was expanded or will be sometime in the future. Amen Brudda! AMEN!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamweb Posted October 26, 2005 Remember it was the Pirates theme and Eldorado Fortress that introduced the CRAP baseplate, later very popular in Castle buildings. What of mermaids Mermaids! Why haven't I made any yet? This idea is so obvious I just can't believe I haven't thought of it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Phes Posted October 26, 2005 For all your LEGO Mermaid discussion, go to the Custom LEGO Mermaids thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamweb Posted October 26, 2005 Well, I voted for Pirates, this has been my all-time favourite line, almost since my first contact with Lego bricks. Although Castle is great as well, I remember visiting my friend and having great time playing with his castle Lego. Of course he also came to me and played with my pirates and soldiers... And sometimes we played with both at the same time (but no mixing my bricks with his :) ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Phes Posted October 26, 2005 I'm sure I've posted a couple of times how I became interested in Pirate LEGO. I could post it again if yer like! I'm too lazy to find the thread you see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norro Posted October 26, 2005 Pirates would appear somewhat more discussable in this forum at the moment. Now why is that? Because castle lovers are friendly and polite and occassionally enjoy looking at sub themes :-D God Bless, Nathan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norro Posted October 26, 2005 I just put castle ahead...you wouldn't think I would be a castle fan would you! :-D Ultimately Pirate is my 2nd fav theme and the gap between 2nd and the rest is like the premiership... But Castle just has so much more... depth,range,building styles, MOCs,Originality, etc.. God Bless, Nathan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
