Great Western Railway (GWR) 1400/4800 Class

[Abukuma Nagara]

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Just a little bit of history:

The Great Western Railway's 517 class (first introduced 1868) had seen over 60 years of service and, in 1932, they were in need of replacing. The 4800 class was based on the 517 class, in fact, you could see how they looked like 517 class. The 2800 class locomotives were modified for oil firing and they were renamed the 4800s and the 4800s were renamed 1400 and there were 74 locomotives of the 1400s class (#1400-#1474). The 1400s were withdrawn from 1963 though 1965 and only four are preserved today; 1420, 1442, 1450, 1466.

The 1400s are my favorite class. They were small and reliable. As for my build of it, its not the best but I like it.

Though it originally had a powered chassis, The Drive Wheels are now connected using 3 36-teethed gears.

Edited July 17, 2016 by Abukuma Nagara

[Railfan9]

Great looking model of one of my favorite classes of GWR locomotives.

[Abukuma Nagara]

Great looking model of one of my favorite classes of GWR locomotives.

Thanks and yeah its my favorite too

[Railfan9]

Are you planning on doing an Auto coach to go with this little locomotive?

[Abukuma Nagara]

Are you planning on doing an Auto coach to go with this little locomotive?

Im not sure to be honest

[brickmasterben11]

What is that piece in the middle where the black dome is? Is that a LEGO piece? Nice engine though.

[M_slug357]

Looks great!

Also, really dusty! Or is it just weathering?

[Abukuma Nagara]

Looks great!

Also, really dusty! Or is it just weathering?

Dust

What is that piece in the middle where the black dome is? Is that a LEGO piece? Nice engine though.

thanks and Its just a dark green sheet of paper covering 4x4 round pieces. I didnt have any dark green and I couldnt match the color

[zephyr1934]

That's a great little tank engine and excellent choice of colors.

[Abukuma Nagara]

That's a great little tank engine and excellent choice of colors.

thanks and it really was. I wish we had some in the US xD

[3D LEGO]

Abukuma Nagara,

"I wish we had some in the US"

We do, its just that they are, how should I put this... much bigger. I know of a few in my neck of the woods. Mount Rainier Railroad and Logging Museum (Formerly Mount Rainier Scenic Railway) out of Elbe, WA owns two saddle tank steam locomotives; an operational ALCO 2-8-2 T [ 1'D1' t ] and the more recently acquired H.K. Porter 0-4-2 T [ B1' t ]. The former fits the large category but with a shorter than common wheelbase. The later, which shares the same axle configuration as your model, is probably more along the lines of what you are thinking of as it is much smaller than the ALCO. It, the Satsop R.R. #1 used to reside on the property of the Supermall in Auburn, WA before being transferred to the railroad.

Typically tank locomotives were more seldom in the United States, mostly working remote areas for timber industries. They were frequently operated bidirectionally as turntables were a costly investment and tenders become a hazard when empty on things like switchbacks or switches. Some larger companies even operated 2-6-6-2 T [ (1'C)C1' vt ]. The lower side tanks like those common in Europe were next to non-existent though a few narrow gauge lines utilized them on compound designs. One noteworthy feature shared by many of all these locomotives is blind drivers to help with tighter track geometry. The MRR&LM owns and operates an additional Baldwin 2-8-2 [ 1'D1' ] that features 2 center blind drivers. (Their ALCO does not.)

But back to that lovely little tank locomotive you built. In typical British fashion, it is simple, and yet ornate. Paneling and a lovely paint job do much to make things presentable unlike our more utilitarian methods here. I like how you paid a lot of attention to the simple details. The flared smokestack, the roof line, tank caps. By the way, I noticed the gears you spoke of. Are they to help with the running characteristics or do they have some other purpose?

One thing you could consider is using a 7 stud half beam instead of the 7 stud beam and swapping out the 2 stud Technic pegs for 1-1/2 stud versions instead.

I guess the one disadvantage of the quaint British tank engines is that the inside cylinders were/are a maintenance pain.

3D LEGO

[Abukuma Nagara]

Abukuma Nagara,

We do, its just that they are, how should I put this... much bigger. I know of a few in my neck of the woods. Mount Rainier Railroad and Logging Museum (Formerly Mount Rainier Scenic Railway) out of Elbe, WA owns two saddle tank steam locomotives; an operational ALCO 2-8-2 T [ 1'D1' t ] and the more recently acquired H.K. Porter 0-4-2 T [ B1' t ]. The former fits the large category but with a shorter than common wheelbase. The later, which shares the same axle configuration as your model, is probably more along the lines of what you are thinking of as it is much smaller than the ALCO. It, the Satsop R.R. #1 used to reside on the property of the Supermall in Auburn, WA before being transferred to the railroad.

Typically tank locomotives were more seldom in the United States, mostly working remote areas for timber industries. They were frequently operated bidirectionally as turntables were a costly investment and tenders become a hazard when empty on things like switchbacks or switches. Some larger companies even operated 2-6-6-2 T [ (1'C)C1' vt ]. The lower side tanks like those common in Europe were next to non-existent though a few narrow gauge lines utilized them on compound designs. One noteworthy feature shared by many of all these locomotives is blind drivers to help with tighter track geometry. The MRR&LM owns and operates an additional Baldwin 2-8-2 [ 1'D1' ] that features 2 center blind drivers. (Their ALCO does not.)

But back to that lovely little tank locomotive you built. In typical British fashion, it is simple, and yet ornate. Paneling and a lovely paint job do much to make things presentable unlike our more utilitarian methods here. I like how you paid a lot of attention to the simple details. The flared smokestack, the roof line, tank caps. By the way, I noticed the gears you spoke of. Are they to help with the running characteristics or do they have some other purpose?

One thing you could consider is using a 7 stud half beam instead of the 7 stud beam and swapping out the 2 stud Technic pegs for 1-1/2 stud versions instead.

I guess the one disadvantage of the quaint British tank engines is that the inside cylinders were/are a maintenance pain.

3D LEGO

1. Im sorry but I dont see how those are 14xx class locomotives xD

2. Yes a redo thats 7studs wide is something to think about

[ProvenceTristram]

Really like it.

[3D LEGO]

Abukuma Nagara,

My apologies if my post confused you. I was responding to your lament about the lack of small tank engines here in the United States but may have gotten a bit side tracked in doing so. The example I gave was a common area where tank engines were employed. I fully realize that there is quite a lot of room for discretion when it comes to logging railroads and their equipment. For one, they came in all shapes and sizes and more often than not ran on track that failed to meet the criteria of a branch line. The locomotive I mentioned, the Satsop R.R. #1, shares some similarities with your GWR 1400 class, such as smaller size, same axle configuration, tanks (in this case a single saddle type instead of twin side tanks), standard gauge and branch line service but I realize its weight is only a quarter of your locomotive. (The other example I gave, while 2 1/2 times heavier than yours, was designed for branch line service by means of a shorter wheelbase.)

Here is a picture of the Satsop R.R. #1

http://pre15.deviant...ion-d6i1ytt.jpg

(Image is too large to embed.)

Returning to your actual MOC, while rebuilding in a larger scale is a great idea, I had not intended for that with my suggestion. Rather I was offering a small change you could implement on your model to improve the aesthetics while narrowing the width of the locomotive. Perhaps this will help clarify what I was intending:

If you replace the 2 black Technic, Liftarm 1x7 Thick which you currently use as a connecting rods and the 4 Technic, Pin without Friction Lengthwise that you attach them to

with a black 2 Technic, Liftarm 1x7 Thin and 4 Technic, Pin 3/4, the result will be narrower connecting rods and locomotive width.

If limited parts was the reason you opted for the wider liftarms, then I completely understand. It is only a suggestion for you to consider. Feel free to send me a private message if you have any questions.

3D LEGO

[Abukuma Nagara]

Abukuma Nagara,

My apologies if my post confused you. I was responding to your lament about the lack of small tank engines here in the United States but may have gotten a bit side tracked in doing so. The example I gave was a common area where tank engines were employed. I fully realize that there is quite a lot of room for discretion when it comes to logging railroads and their equipment. For one, they came in all shapes and sizes and more often than not ran on track that failed to meet the criteria of a branch line. The locomotive I mentioned, the Satsop R.R. #1, shares some similarities with your GWR 1400 class, such as smaller size, same axle configuration, tanks (in this case a single saddle type instead of twin side tanks), standard gauge and branch line service but I realize its weight is only a quarter of your locomotive. (The other example I gave, while 2 1/2 times heavier than yours, was designed for branch line service by means of a shorter wheelbase.)

Here is a picture of the Satsop R.R. #1

http://pre15.deviant...ion-d6i1ytt.jpg

(Image is too large to embed.)

Returning to your actual MOC, while rebuilding in a larger scale is a great idea, I had not intended for that with my suggestion. Rather I was offering a small change you could implement on your model to improve the aesthetics while narrowing the width of the locomotive. Perhaps this will help clarify what I was intending:

If you replace the 2 black Technic, Liftarm 1x7 Thick which you currently use as a connecting rods and the 4 Technic, Pin without Friction Lengthwise that you attach them to

with a black 2 Technic, Liftarm 1x7 Thin and 4 Technic, Pin 3/4, the result will be narrower connecting rods and locomotive width.

If limited parts was the reason you opted for the wider liftarms, then I completely understand. It is only a suggestion for you to consider. Feel free to send me a private message if you have any questions.

3D LEGO

oooohhhhhhh Okay. Sorry for the confusion. And I wanted to do that but I couldnt find those but if I decide to redo her, Ill order them

[zephyr1934]

There is at least one operating tank engine in the SF bay area in Niles Canyon (2-6-2 logging locomotive). They were also somewhat common as industrial switchers and many large roundhouses in the US would typically have one little tank engine to move the large steam engines on/off the turntable when they were not under steam (e.g., Soo Line, Southern Pacific)

[Railfan9]

there is also the Leigh Coal No.126 (Sadie) which is an 0-6-0 saddle tank and Flagg Coal No.75 (Hank) saddle tank owned by Barney and John Grambling both travel around the eastern United States by truck, and go to preservation railroads.

[Abukuma Nagara]

I see