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The Collabrative war!!!!!!!!! impr

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please note this is a clone of the collaborative story but the old title didnt quite convey the message. Please dont close this!!!!!!!!!!

The Collaborative War!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With the recent death of The great historical lego war, which everyone has agreed is not solely my fault. I made it my number one priority to invent the perfect role-play. I took previous examples of god-mods and topics of this nature and identified the key problems. But overall I found the main problem was that wars are too engaging and result in some impulse posts, which seem to lack substance. This is because people want to win, when really role-playing should be more about the underlying story. Yes i know other topics have been made to fix this, but they seem to have very restrictive rules, which allow for very little creative freedom. So what is the great solution, The COLLABORATIVE WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rules and organization:

You may use any one theme you want fiction or non fiction

Objective: The objective of the collaborative story isn't just to win in the story, but to win in the book as well. What I mean is your win is determined mainly by how valid, creative and coherent your posts are. The key is shown below.

Creativity=45%

Validity= 35%

Coherence=10%

Winnings=10%

Now I'll bet your thinking holy crap this is just like school, but don't threat. There aren't any due dates and you don't get a lecture if you don't win.

Scoring system: I, the judge (not a participant in the war), will read the posts at least once a week. After reading the weeks posts i will give each participant a mark in the different categories. If i give you a bad mark, please dont take offense, ill try to be as fair as possible, but i can't lie or show favoritism to a particular player. Your names will be listed in this post as you join up and your points modified as i mark your posts.

Rules:

I would like this to be an all lego war, so occasionally make an obvious reference to lego.

for example: Haha The blue bricks have arrived now i can build my galleons.

Rule1: No invincibility

Rule2: No Omniscience or Omnipotence of any kind

Rule3: You cannot continuously escape from dire situation without loosing anything of value.

Rule4: You cannot completely kill an opponent all at once

Rule5: strong items and abilities must come at some great expense to you

Rule6: no indepletable resources

Rule5: Every 2 posts count as a day and events must take about as many days as they do in real life

Rule6: All off topic posts must be in orange print!

Rule7: notify me if you are temporarily, or completely leaving the thread.

rule8: you can only edit punctuation in posts. You cannot rephrase or change old posts.

rule9: there is no ninth rule

rule10: there are only 8 real rules

Breaking anyone of these rules (even 9 or 10) will dock you 20 marks (5 in each category)

Enjoy the game

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sure: I, the judge, (not a participant) mark your writing skills in three categories and the amount of battles you have validly won, without breaking a rule. I give you your points for the week and put them beside your names in the first post after you've been listed. The winner of the story could be a god mod but he wont win the game because he will have a lower writing score and will hence lose.

Bad

Lego noob posts: I become the all powerful god who can kill you all.

lego noob had: creativity: 20 pts

validity: 20 pts

Coherence: 20

winnings: 21

i dock lego noob 5 points in each category for breaking rule two

lego noob now has: creativity:15 pts

validity: 15 pts

coherence: 15 pts

winnings: 18 pts

but im not done yet i still have to evaluate his pathectic little post

i give lego noob 0 points in creativity, 0 points in validity, 1 point in coherence, and 0 points in winnings

lego noobs score: creativity:15 pts

validity: 15 pts

coherence: 16 pts

winnings: 18pts

Good

Trapper42 posts: As a result of many battles with Ogre37 on the piracy coasts, my armies are few and hard to support. We can only hope reinforcements arrive soon or we make new alliances. Today ogre37 will arrive with a U.F.O avenger and i dont think we are prepared to fight one of his infernal space crafts, there is a very good chance i myself will die tommorow. All thats left is our train project and i am even starting to lose faith in that.

well this a great post and trapper hasn't broken any rules. I like His reference to the train project and how hes losing faith in it, and generally it deserves a good mark

trappers points were: creativity: 60

validity: 55

coherence: 60

winnings: 17

i give trapper 4 points in creativity, 5 points in validity, 5 points in coherence and since there was no battle sequence, trapper doesnt get a winning.

trappers points are now: creativity:64

validity: 60

coherence: 65

winnings: 17

since creativity, validity and coherence are worth a greater percentage, lego noob would have one of the lowest rankings maybe last or second last.

Hope that clears everything up for you.

oh and ps: rules 9 and 10 are jokes,ill get rid of them though

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well yes it is another war but all the others either arent god-mod foolproof or they have specific rules for everything and dont allow any creative freedom. I think this would be the next best RPG to follow after the great historical lego war, because its unique format. these are the other wars. Clash of the titans is more of an RTS based game and the Titanic bionicle war is purely about bionicle and the rule to prevent god modding is No god modding, which is to vague to logically enforce.

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listen, it's really not usefull to create these type of games/topics for an EB forum. the community is clearly not interested in these topics. to be blunt: you're wasting your time with this on EB...

so if you're really into these games i suggest you go looking for a website where people do appreciate your innitiative and your work, but based on the responses you've had, i'd have to assume EB is not such a website...

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snefroe that is very hipocritical of you, i know your were very active in the Historical lego war. I dont think there have been enough posts to derive the rash conclusion that nobody likes this topic and the first post suggested that legoman was interested in joining and needed an explanation. I dont think your the only one who hates these topics, just the only one who bothers whining about them. :biggrin:

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I dont think there have been enough posts to derive the rash conclusion that nobody likes this topic

I think that was his point :wink:

Besides, the whole idea of rating someones post, ESPECIALLY as "noob" seems rather offensive to me (just be glad the system wasn't around when you joined the Great Historical Lego War...)

If there were to be another "war", I'd wait for phes to start it back up again, at least with a different set of rules. No personal offense though of course :happy:

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I dont think there have been enough posts to derive the rash conclusion that nobody likes this topic

I think that was his point :wink:

Besides, the whole idea of rating someones post, ESPECIALLY as "noob" seems rather offensive to me (just be glad the system wasn't around when you joined the Great Historical Lego War...)

If there were to be another "war", I'd wait for phes to start it back up again, at least with a different set of rules. No personal offense though of course :happy:

ok, the fact that im a noob on this forum, doesnt mean i wouldnt be good at marking other peoples posts. I am a member of 8 different forums! and have reached some of the highest levels, So I think I definately have more experience with these things than scarcastic you! If you dont want a 'noob' to mark your posts then ill make 200 posts over the course of the weekend, ok! I Also garuntee if this turns into a debate i will totaly own you. Hey and while your here, lets see your great idea to stop god-modding on such threads!

Sneffy said, based on the responses you've had people arent interested in this kind of topic, he didnt say based on the lack of replies!

NOW STOP SPAMMING AND GO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING YOU LIKE! AND THIS ISNT CALLED THE COMPLAIN ABOUT LEGO WARS TOPIC!!!

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I dont think there have been enough posts to derive the rash conclusion that nobody likes this topic

I think that was his point :wink:

Besides, the whole idea of rating someones post, ESPECIALLY as "noob" seems rather offensive to me (just be glad the system wasn't around when you joined the Great Historical Lego War...)

If there were to be another "war", I'd wait for phes to start it back up again, at least with a different set of rules. No personal offense though of course :happy:

ok, the fact that im a noob on this forum, doesnt mean i wouldnt be good at marking other peoples posts. I am a member of 8 different forums! and have reached some of the highest levels, So I think I definately have more experience with these things than scarcastic you! If you dont want a 'noob' to mark your posts then ill make 200 posts over the course of the weekend, ok! I Also garuntee if this turns into a debate i will totaly own you. Hey and while your here, lets see your great idea to stop god-modding on such threads!

Sneffy said, based on the responses you've had people arent interested in this kind of topic, he didnt say based on the lack of replies!

NOW STOP SPAMMING AND GO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING YOU LIKE! AND THIS ISNT CALLED THE COMPLAIN ABOUT LEGO WARS TOPIC!!!

Well I think someone needs some anger management :glare: I was just trying to explain more about his opinion, and give my own. I thought giving opinions was allowed. Also, being a "noob" has nothing to do with number of posts, but rather with the quality of the posts, and the general attitude of the person posting. There have been many people here with low post counts who I respect greatly.

I'm not really sure what you're talking about with the godmodding comment, I merely pointed out that it would be the death of the GHLW, and I happened to be right, no big deal. And trust me, you don't want to get into a debate with me :wink: Sometimes, it's better to leave the hysterical people to their own decices, eh?

With that said, I'll take my leave, though I wish you and this topic great success :smile:

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I dont think there have been enough posts to derive the rash conclusion that nobody likes this topic

I think that was his point :wink:

Besides, the whole idea of rating someones post, ESPECIALLY as "noob" seems rather offensive to me (just be glad the system wasn't around when you joined the Great Historical Lego War...)

If there were to be another "war", I'd wait for phes to start it back up again, at least with a different set of rules. No personal offense though of course :happy:

ok, the fact that im a noob on this forum, doesnt mean i wouldnt be good at marking other peoples posts. I am a member of 8 different forums! and have reached some of the highest levels, So I think I definately have more experience with these things than scarcastic you! If you dont want a 'noob' to mark your posts then ill make 200 posts over the course of the weekend, ok! I Also garuntee if this turns into a debate i will totaly own you. Hey and while your here, lets see your great idea to stop god-modding on such threads!

Sneffy said, based on the responses you've had people arent interested in this kind of topic, he didnt say based on the lack of replies!

NOW STOP SPAMMING AND GO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING YOU LIKE! AND THIS ISNT CALLED THE COMPLAIN ABOUT LEGO WARS TOPIC!!!

Well I think someone needs some anger management :glare:

No i was angry because you called me a noob. And im still angry because now your saying all my posts suck and ruinging this topic with your spam full of sarcastic smileys. Why dont you put some of that spam on the other war topics, eh! What is it that is making you despise me, specifically?

I was just trying to explain more about his opinion, and give my own. I thought giving opinions was allowed

Well your allowed to post opinions, but i think we can both say that that particullar post wasnt just an opinion....

Also, being a "noob" has nothing to do with number of posts, but rather with the quality of the posts, and the general attitude of the person posting.

Ive seen plenty of rude but popular posters on forums, and they all have one thing in common, they have high post counts!... Im not generally rude either, im just mad that your ruining this potentially great topic. I think my sig, avatar and ability to split quotes speaks for itself as far as being a noob is concered. All things you dont have... So dont call me a noob when you dont even have a sig...

There have been many people here with low post counts who I respect greatly.

Oh people who posted pics of new sets or have given you high praise i imagine?..... lets see some of these posts that make you respect these people...

I'm not really sure what you're talking about with the godmodding comment, I merely pointed out that it would be the death of the GHLW, and I happened to be right, no big deal.

all im saying is, if you dont like my idea and your not even going to explain why, then lets see you think of something better.

And trust me, you don't want to get into a debate with me :wink:

well maybe i dont. But thats not to say i couldnt own you, seeing as i have won religious debates! Mind you, thats nearly impossible! I also won a debate on whether we should let little kids believe in santa, and i took the negative side!

With that said, I'll take my leave, though I wish you and this topic great success :smile:

oh, you changed your opinion to avoid getting into an argument, good for you!!! :smile: . If you really wanted this topic to be sucessful, then you wouldnt be ruining it and trying to convince people it sucks by posting these comments, would you? And so i make my leave with my favorite emoticon :rolleyes:

ps: starwars4j generally speaking i have nothing against you, your just not my favorite person right now...

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No i was angry because you called me a noob. And im still angry because now your saying all my posts suck and ruinging this topic with your spam full of sarcastic smileys. Why dont you put some of that spam on the other war topics, eh! What is it that is making you despise me, specifically?

I don't despise you at all! Geez, can't a guy give an opinion that doesn't agree with yours without it becoming anything personal? o_O

Well your allowed to post opinions, but i think we can both say that that particullar post wasnt just an opinion....

Actually it was

Ive seen plenty of rude but popular posters on forums, and they all have one thing in common, they have high post counts!... Im not generally rude either, im just mad that your ruining this potentially great topic. I think my sig, avatar and ability to split quotes speaks for itself as far as being a noob is concered. All things you dont have... So dont call me a noob when you dont even have a sig...

That's exactly my point. Do you even know what a n00b is? A "newb" is someone who is new. These people generally have low post counts. A "n00b" is someone who trolls, is annoying, etc. Now please explain to me what having a sig, an avatar, and the AMAZNG ability to split quotes have anything to do with you being a noob? Any moron can split a quote, or find an avatar, or a sig. I personally don't WANT them. You do. That doesn't make me a noob, and it doesn't make you not one. Now keep in mind that I'm not attacking you personally, I'm just pointing out the glaring holes in your logic here. Sigs mean nothing. Avatars mean nothing. And I assume the thing about your ability to split quotes was a joke, right?

Just keep in mind, the other posters will respect someone more with fewer posts with a higher quality, than some of the banned members who were in the 500's within a day! Does that make them "vets"? No, it just makes them annoying.

Oh people who posted pics of new sets or have given you high praise i imagine?..... lets see some of these posts that make you respect these people...

Actually you couldn't be more wrong. People who garner my respect are those who type long, and thoughtful posts that consist of more than just "LOL". It has to do with attitude, not pictures, or any sort of praise (I have yet to post a single MOC of mine here, actually)

all im saying is, if you dont like my idea and your not even going to explain why, then lets see you think of something better.

I thought it was explained, didn't you read it? I don't like the idea of "rating" users, especially with a "noob" catagory. It's really detrimental to the community, and would make it just...well, no fun to play.

well maybe i dont. But thats not to say i couldnt own you, seeing as i have won religious debates! Mind you, thats nearly impossible! I also won a debate on whether we should let little kids believe in santa, and i took the negative side!

Well, judging so far by the quality of the posts that have been made, I certaintly don't see a high level of debate. However you could just be holding that back. I mean seriously, saying that noob has anything to do with an avatar, or the ability to split a quote? o_O

oh, you changed your opinion to avoid getting into an argument, good for you!!! :smile: . If you really wanted this topic to be sucessful, then you wouldnt be ruining it and trying to convince people it sucks by posting these comments, would you? And so i make my leave with my favorite emoticon :rolleyes:

Actually I was just supporting another member, who voiced similar opinions about this topic, who you flamed. I actually do wish you success in this topic, which is why I suggest that if you have anything further to say, that we continue this over PM, as we're getting quite off-topic...all I did was give an opinion, no need to turn this into some huge flame war, ya know? Oh, and where did I change my opinion? :closedeyes:

ps: starwars4j generally speaking i have nothing against you, your just not my favorite person right now...

Darn. But I have to say, I have nothing against you. I was merely voicing my opinion about the sanctity of a thread. See, that's what you failed to understand. My comments were NOT aimed against you in the initial post (though you rather quickly changed that). I was merely commenting on the validity of the TOPIC. Now, I'm sorry if you think that my comments were aimed against you, as they were not. I know how people can form an attachment to their threads, but please understand, it was not about YOU.

Now, with that said, if you want to continue this, please do so by IM, and that way this topic can get back to your original intentions. And good luck with it! (sincerely)

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Mr Cleese, this topic isn't going anywhere execept for an excuse for you to flame people. So just...get started or have it closed. Thanks.

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