4-2-4 and 4-4-0 Western Steam locos and their trains

[Murdoch17]

The trains I'm going to show you use a lot of unique models to make this train setup possible, including sets 10254, 60052, 79106, 79111, and 10015 for the Army train, and 7597, 10014, and 10015 for the passenger train. (This is both a single MOC and several MODs at the same time.) These trains are also 100% build-able in real life... I haven't got the green one built, but the red one is 98% finished! They are done, so you can see them below!

US 1870's MILITARY TRAIN & 4-2-4 STEAM LOCO

Let's start with the newest train: the 4-2-4 and the US Army train.

This is a more realistic version of set 10254 (Winter Village holiday train) for all the train fans who don't like the engine. I added working pistons, and a more cohesive color scheme plus two more sets of wheels on the engine.

This is a tank engine, and as such does not have a tender.

The rotating Gatling gun you see here was taken from set 79111. (Constitution Train Chase)

This horse car was originally a cattle car from set 60052, (2014 Cargo Train) but I've re-purposed it for my Army officer horses.

These cannons are from set 79106 (Calvary Builder Set) and were placed on a generic flatcar. for transport by rail.

This coach was inspired by set 10015 (Passenger Wagon), and features no interior. T

The jail car you see was originally from set 79111. (Constitution Train Chase) while gaining the styling of set 10015. (Passenger Wagon) This car has one play feature that is sure to blow you away: the back wall can be removed to get at the jail cell via the "dynamite" on the outside of the back wall.

When pushed back towards the other end of the car, the rear wall pops out and the bad guys can escape!

Here is the whole military train all put together.

US 1870's PASSENGER TRAIN & 4-6-0 STEAM LOCO

Next up, the modified passenger train which I have shown before on these forums, but has received a bit of a face-lift.

This engine was originally modeled after set 7597 (Western Train Chase) with some design inspiration from TF Twitch's "Humble Sapphire" 4-4-0. The engine also features a boiler copied from set 79111 (Constitution Train Chase) to keep it inline with the rest of my steam locomotives.

The rear of the loco features a ladder to the tender-top.

These passenger cars were mostly inspired by set 10014 (Passenger wagon) but repainted red instead of green and with fancy part 30613 "Brick, Arch 3 x 6 x 5 Ornamented" on the end of the cars. I might be mistaken, but Ben Shuber may have been the one to inspire these coaches with his own red versions of set 10014.

The end of my passenger train features this little four wheel caboose. It was designed after set 10015 (Caboose) with some features taken from set 7597 (Western Train Chase)

Here is the whole passenger train all put together.

US 1870's FREIGHT TRAIN & 4-4-0 STEAM LOCO

Since I turned the red 4-4-0 into a 4-6-0, the slot has been opened up for another "American"-type. Thus, I created Yellow 4-4-0 number 2, to go along with red 4-6-0 number 3 and green 4-2-4 number 1. The engine is supposed to feature four of this part on the tender and cab walls where the green bricks are located: http://www.bricklink...09pb011#T=C&C=3

This log car was also designed by my brother, and is quite ingenious for using set 60059 (Logging Truck) but on a train base. The logs are floating place, as they would be resting on the bottom of the car in real life. It was quite a pain to position them into place as seen here.

The flat car is heavily inspired by the one in set 3225 (Classic Train), except this version features two bogies unlike the original set.

This vintage water tanker is a modified set 2126 (Train Cars) design with four wheels on the two bogies instead of two wheels stuck to the frame.

Set 7597 was the original model for this boxcar, which has been made so the doors can't open.... though you can remove the handle on the side of the car and it will open fine.

This caboose was inspired by set 10014 (Caboose), but my version lacks the top part of the caboose, which is traditionally called a cupola.

Here is the whole train together.

US 1870's LEGOREDO MODULAR TRAIN DEPOT

This old railroad station was inspired by set 7594 (Woody's Roundup!) which I have named the Fort Legoredo passenger depot after the famous set number 6761. (Fort Legoredo)

This railroad station was built in 1874 after the original station structure (built 1867) burned to the ground in late 1873. It was confusingly named Fort Legoredo at that time by the railroad in an attempt to persuade potential settlers that this land was protected by the army, when in fact the Federal government was planning on closing down the actual Fort Legoredo. (this plan was eventually gone through with, as the Fort ceased operations when it burned to the ground in 1885 and was not rebuilt)

The station has since stood for 140+ years with only slight modifications, such as adding computer control systems to the upper floor in 1980 to control the switches and monitor train traffic to the still-active silver mines. The station also serves as the oldest building in the city and is featured heavily in tourism advertisements for the city and it's historical reproduction of the original Fort Legoredo. (the US Army base, that is)

The station is modular, as the roof and second floor come off and the two side platforms come apart by means of Technic pins.

This lower floor features two waiting rooms with a ticket office in-between them. This office features stairs to the upper floor.

The upper floor features a vintage safe that is used to hold silver dust / nuggets that is still payable for a train ticket. The metal is weighed on the scale (seen next to the safe) to ensure it is the correct type. (Read: not fake). The newspaper contains the daily precious metals prices, so that is is fairly measured and properly payed for. Eventually a special train comes though the station and the dust / nuggets are exchanged for proper paper currency, with the expensive metal being shipped back east to Denver to be made into coins and bars. The anachronistic modern computer system was added in 1980 to control the switches and monitor train traffic to the still-active silver mines.

US 1870's MODULAR COLLAPSING TRAIN BRIDGE

This bridge was inspired by Bad Cop's Pursuit (set 70802) and the short section of railroad bridge included with that set. When I first saw it, I thought it would make a great play feature for a train bridge that is actually usable by trains.

Here is the result of all that working and reworking: 12 sections of PF / RC train track (It won't work with 9V, sorry!) with 1 section "failure point" consisting of 2 tracks pieces, plus 2 studs of space to separate the moving from non-moving items and allow the hinge to do it's job.

The track leading up to the "failure point" as I call it, is raised ever so gently at an angle of (at most) 1 1/3 bricks high per 1 section of track. (The angle of ascent / descent depends on which part of track you are on, but for the most part it's consistent.)

The design of the bridge is modular so that you can easily disassemble the bridge for transport. It disassembles into 2 lower ramp sections consisting of 4 tracks each and 2 flat sections placed onto plates with the 1 "failure point" module consisting of a hinged (on one end) track piece in the middle.

The bridge when the track is safe to cross: the pins are inserted and it should be stable. Naturally, a very heavy engine will snap the Technic rods in half, breaking the bridge permanently. Thus you can only use this engine with Small engines like my 2-6-0 + it's consist, (AKA the Lone Ranger train) the My Own Train series engines, or something of comparable weight.

This is how it works:

Their are two hidden Technic rods under the track that should allow trains to pass by safely overhead. Pull the Technic connector and your bridge collapses. Lift the bridge up and move the rod back in to reset the bridge for the next adventure.

US 1870's TRAIN STUFF - LDD FILES

LDD file for the green 4-2-4 loco only: http://www.moc-pages...1471631241m.lxf

LDD file for the green loco and it's train: http://www.moc-pages...1471631317m.lxf

LDD file for the red 4-6-0 loco only: http://www.moc-pages...1473035459m.lxf

LDD file for the yellow 4-4-0 loco only: http://www.moc-pages...1473035594m.lxf

LDD file for the yellow loco and it's train: http://www.moc-pages...1473101156m.lxf

LDD file for the modular train station: http://www.moc-pages.com/user_images/80135/1456867526m.lxf

LDD file for the collapsing train bridge: http://www.moc-pages.com/user_images/80135/1472495977m.lxf

EDIT 9/18/16 - Added real life pictures of the train station and digital pictures of the bridge. The LDD files were added for both as well.

Comments, Questions, and complaints are always welcome!

Thanks for looking!

Edited September 18, 2016 by Murdoch17

[Beck]

You always seem to find some odd design to build. I must warn you that the technic pin with hole part on the 4-2-4 is a friction pin, which would most likely affect the resistance, unless you're just using the loco as a stationary model.

[Murdoch17]

You always seem to find some odd design to build. I must warn you that the technic pin with hole part on the 4-2-4 is a friction pin, which would most likely affect the resistance, unless you're just using the loco as a stationary model.

Yep, that's me: you can even call me Odd man Jenkins, if you so wanted.

Do you mean this black part ( http://www.bricklink...age?P=15100#T=C )on the pistons arm? I've tested that part on my 4-4-0, and it works fine. Thanks for you help though!

Edited August 13, 2016 by Murdoch17

[storms26]

I think that the tender on the 4-4-0 is quite large for the type of engine being modelled. Maybe something smaller? Either way, great builds, as always.

[Murdoch17]

I think that the tender on the 4-4-0 is quite large for the type of engine being modelled. Maybe something smaller? Either way, great builds, as always.

I think it looks fine, but that's just me. I don't like the tiny two wheel tenders of the My own Train series - never have, never will - so I try to avoid two wheel set designs. This was the smallest i could come up with and still fit my aesthetic.

It also bears a slight resemblance to the Six Flags theme park train in my hometown of St. Louis. (not my pic - gotten from Wikipedia)

[Captain Green Hair]

These look almost like real sets, well done!

[Murdoch17]

These look almost like real sets, well done!

Thank you, I was aiming for an "official" look to these models.

[Murdoch17]

The ldd files for all the trains, and their respective engines are now included in the first post. The loco's by themselves are also up there in the main post.

Here is silly variant on these locos that will NOT be added to the real locos. The LDD files for these locos with the faces are not uploaded, but they may be at a later date!

General Cole is named after the famous Civil War 4-4-0 "the General" and is painted in red, while Hunter is of the same design type as the C.P. Huntington, and is painted green.

Hunter likes to whistle his favorite tunes of yesteryear all the time, which means his shed mates are all driven almost insane by his constant humming - even in his sleep!

General Cole is a bit hard to work with as the newer engines do things differently than him, making his old-fashioned way seem outdated, or even dangerous. Just don't talk about the good old days, or debate link and pin / modern coupling methods, as he will always think he won the argument. (whether he actually did win or not!)

Any thoughts?

[alsielou]

Thank you for posting these very nice trains and especially their LDD files! I will be purchasing the holiday train as my first Lego train and I am very excited about finally getting a train. I already know that i want to make a proper passenger car and extend the locomotive a bit, but had no idea where to start. Well I still don't really until I get a hold of the set and see first hand how it is constructed. However I am sure that your files above will be very helpful to me in understanding a bit more about how lego trains are constructed. I like your extended 4-2-4 locomotive with working pistons, and I like the details in both the passenger cars. Thank you for sharing.

[Murdoch17]

Thank you for posting these very nice trains and especially their LDD files! I will be purchasing the holiday train as my first Lego train and I am very excited about finally getting a train. I already know that i want to make a proper passenger car and extend the locomotive a bit, but had no idea where to start. Well I still don't really until I get a hold of the set and see first hand how it is constructed. However I am sure that your files above will be very helpful to me in understanding a bit more about how lego trains are constructed. I like your extended 4-2-4 locomotive with working pistons, and I like the details in both the passenger cars. Thank you for sharing.

No problem about posting the LDD files, I love to make the virtual designs free to the public. If /when you make your model, don't forget to post it here on Eurobricks!

[Murdoch17]

EDIT 9/1/16 - I just added real life pictures, modified their descriptions and updated the LDD files in the main post!

[Murdoch17]

As you can see, I have updated the 4-4-0 into a 4-6-0, and as such the pictures have been updated to reflect that in the main post.

(Updated LDD files and such are coming when MOcpages comes back online.)

[Murdoch17]

Sorry for the bump, but the yellow 4-4-0 and it's freight train have been added to the first post. The red 4-6-0 has also had it's ldd file updated, but the passenger train file isn't there yet.

[Murdoch17]

Added real life pictures of the 1870's modular train station and digital pictures of the collapsing train bridge. The LDD files were added for both as well.

If a mod would wouldn't mind, could they change the title "Western style steam locomotives their trains"? Thanks!

Edited September 18, 2016 by Murdoch17

[GmaBlu]

Love the green engine.  You have a nice eye for detail.

[Murdoch17]

16 hours ago, GmaBlu said:

Love the green engine.  You have a nice eye for detail.

Thank you! i'm working on adding a town for my western stuff as you can see here:  Legoredo City & Wild West trains

I hope you like it!

Edited September 28, 2016 by Murdoch17