Driftworks Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Unfortunately i couldnt get back to my old account fir some reason. But here i got a quick sneak peak of my driftwotks ae86.replicate the chassis as much as possible with some key futures. Finally got a rolling chassis still lots to tidy up the chassis. Full rollcage sway bars and airjack. Real build can be find on the net if interested. Car would be build in 3 stages. Chassis Engine/drivetrain Bodywork Where almost at the interesting part bare with me......After trying different engine configurations drive train is looking very promising!!! V8 Air engine but no pneumatics that fits perfect Pics will be up Shortly http://http:// Edited May 3, 2017 by Driftworks Update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleh Posted June 15, 2016 Nice front wheels turning angle! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agrof Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Agree, it is already very interesting, love the rear joints and the angles! How You made the stretch effect on the tires? Edited June 15, 2016 by agrof Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
offroadcreations Posted June 15, 2016 Awesome! Looks really clean. I can't wait to see it finished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftworks Posted June 15, 2016 Thank you for the positive feed back ive seen alot of everybodies work and got most of my inspiration from this site. input or criticism is welcome! Agree, it is already very interesting, love the rear joints and the angles! How You made the stretch effect on the tires? i had some old grey wheels laying around that i cut in half for snother project end up not using it so kinda used it as a spacer. So for the purist under us might just keep it original wich would work just as fine. Nothing else is modified other then the front shocks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
z3_2drive Posted June 15, 2016 Will it be an LPE powered MOC? Love the way the chassis is put together and I'm eager to see more pics, especially with the wheels off to see the suspension in more detail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
__________________________ Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) I see promise. You seem to have made an actual roll cage sort of design, if you can line up the supports with the actual racing roll cage it would be a very impressive feature! Battery box placement is very smart, you will have maximum drift this way because the weight is on the rear wheels. This will also increase acceleration since the car is RWD. I am very interested in learning more about the air suspension mechanism, I don't think I've seen such a compact solution before, and with small pneumatic cylinders, you could get even smaller (not that you need to at this scale). I am not very knowledgeable about steering, but if you can increase the steering lock, you can increase drifting ability. You may already know this as well, but make sure your gear ratios / motor selection allows you to make the rear wheels slip. In real life cars which have very high horsepower, sometimes torque is limited in the first few gears to prevent so-called "torque slip". For drifting, however, torque slip is useful, because it allows you to drift at lower speeds, which is paramount to winning a real-life drifting tournament. Also, get as much negative camber as you can (up to 5 degrees) in both front and rear, if you are intending this for short autocrossing-style races with friends, and if you are going for larger tracks, use a little bit less negative camber. Edited June 16, 2016 by TheLegoExpert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftworks Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) I see promise. You seem to have made an actual roll cage sort of design, if you can line up the supports with the actual racing roll cage it would be a very impressive feature! Battery box placement is very smart, you will have maximum drift this way because the weight is on the rear wheels. This will also increase acceleration since the car is RWD. I am very interested in learning more about the air suspension mechanism, I don't think I've seen such a compact solution before, and with small pneumatic cylinders, you could get even smaller (not that you need to at this scale). I am not very knowledgeable about steering, but if you can increase the steering lock, you can increase drifting ability. You may already know this as well, but make sure your gear ratios / motor selection allows you to make the rear wheels slip. In real life cars which have very high horsepower, sometimes torque is limited in the first few gears to prevent so-called "torque slip". For drifting, however, torque slip is useful, because it allows you to drift at lower speeds, which is paramount to winning a real-life drifting tournament. Also, get as much negative camber as you can (up to 5 degrees) in both front and rear, if you are intending this for short autocrossing-style races with friends, and if you are going for larger tracks, use a little bit less negative camber. The roll cage is completely copied and intergrated with the chassis Battery box is where original fuel cell is located I will post some more pictures without the wheels so it becomes more clear. I do not use full ramge of damper simple reason i wanted it to be low as possible probaply need some rweeking after studded body work. Reason i do not use the small ones they look quite fragile over the ss ones Unfortunately thats how much lock you can get without rubbing wich is still quite impressive Im still building the solid axle hope to implement a small locking mechanism The model is more a scale build loaded with realistic details etc. There is quite a few pictures of the real build most i copied with the knowledge from here Edited June 16, 2016 by Driftworks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SevenStuds Posted June 16, 2016 Love the angles you get with those suspension arms. Just wish TLG made them in black. Do you have any plans to make any of your MOCs drift? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PorkyMonster Posted June 16, 2016 I'm currently learning to use LDD, and nearly fainted when i see that your chassis consist of such a complex web of axles and joints :laugh: Do you use LDD in any stage of your model creation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
__________________________ Posted June 16, 2016 The roll cage is completely copied and intergrated with the chassis Battery box is where original fuel cell is located I will post some more pictures without the wheels so it becomes more clear. I do not use full ramge of damper simple reason i wanted it to be low as possible probaply need some rweeking after studded body work. Reason i do not use the small ones they look quite fragile over the ss ones Unfortunately thats how much lock you can get without rubbing wich is still quite impressive Im still building the solid axle hope to implement a small locking mechanism The model is more a scale build loaded with realistic details etc. There is quite a few pictures of the real build most i copied with the knowledge from here Yes it will still expirimenting with the lego cylinders..Lpe engines are even to big for this and thought this thing was big lol What is locking mechanism you speak of?Fuel cell location is very ingenious. The roll cage is completely copied and intergrated with the chassis Battery box is where original fuel cell is located I will post some more pictures without the wheels so it becomes more clear. I do not use full ramge of damper simple reason i wanted it to be low as possible probaply need some rweeking after studded body work. Reason i do not use the small ones they look quite fragile over the ss ones Unfortunately thats how much lock you can get without rubbing wich is still quite impressive Im still building the solid axle hope to implement a small locking mechanism The model is more a scale build loaded with realistic details etc. There is quite a few pictures of the real build most i copied with the knowledge from here Yes it will still expirimenting with the lego cylinders..Lpe engines are even to big for this and thought this thing was big lol What is locking mechanism you speak of?Fuel cell location is very ingenious. The roll cage is completely copied and intergrated with the chassis Battery box is where original fuel cell is located I will post some more pictures without the wheels so it becomes more clear. I do not use full ramge of damper simple reason i wanted it to be low as possible probaply need some rweeking after studded body work. Reason i do not use the small ones they look quite fragile over the ss ones Unfortunately thats how much lock you can get without rubbing wich is still quite impressive Im still building the solid axle hope to implement a small locking mechanism The model is more a scale build loaded with realistic details etc. There is quite a few pictures of the real build most i copied with the knowledge from here Yes it will still expirimenting with the lego cylinders..Lpe engines are even to big for this and thought this thing was big lol What is locking mechanism you speak of?Fuel cell location is very ingenious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agrof Posted June 16, 2016 To the battery box: it is indeed smooth integrated, but if You want to make the car driftable, than the rear driven axle must be free of weight - due to the friction. Position the most weight on the front axle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
__________________________ Posted June 16, 2016 To the battery box: it is indeed smooth integrated, but if You want to make the car driftable, than the rear driven axle must be free of weight - due to the friction. Position the most weight on the front axle. So what is ideal weight distribution for drifting vehicle? Is it RWD with front-heavy car? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftworks Posted June 16, 2016 Love the angles you get with those suspension arms. Just wish TLG made them in black. Do you have any plans to make any of your MOCs drift? Thanks! I wanted go away from the standard building techniques quite the hassle to get them how i wanted them without "bending" the rules to much. I must agree they should be made in black!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agrof Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) You are correct unfortunately i fo t see this thing with current wheels. The original car has a weight distrubition of 50 on every corner!!! Right, the question is, which direction You choose. Make a scale model, or to bring it "alive" in Lego version. In second case it is necessary to use the weight distribution trick, and probably some duckttape on the tires. Whatever decision You will make, I will still like this project. Fingers crossed for smooth and orange bodywork! Edited June 16, 2016 by agrof Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
__________________________ Posted June 16, 2016 Right, the question is, which direction You choose. Make a scale model, or to bring it "alive" in Lego version. In second case it is necessary to use the weight distribution trick, and probably some duckttape on the tires. Whatever decision You will make, I will still like this project. Fingers crossed for smooth and orange bodywork! What is difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rm8 Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Cool build! Glad to see someone else building Toyota's Try power puller rims at rear axle. You can strecth tires much more Looking forward to your project! p.s. you can check my failed AE86 in smaller scale. But my failed project does mot ,mean dead Edited June 16, 2016 by rm8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftworks Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Right, the question is, which direction You choose. Make a scale model, or to bring it "alive" in Lego version. In second case it is necessary to use the weight distribution trick, and probably some duckttape on the tires. Whatever decision You will make, I will still like this project. Fingers crossed for smooth and orange bodywork! Exactly much appriciated for your input!! The ductape idea is probably the way to go. Im still looking for an lpe with a simple transmission that can handle it. I chose this car cause the lines are quite square compared with modern day cars would make it alot easier to replicate in lego Cool build! Glad to see someone else building Toyota's Try power puller rims at rear axle. You can strecth tires much more thanks!! Looking forward to your project! p.s. you can check my failed AE86 in smaller scale. But my failed project does mot ,eamn dead Unfortunately i dont have these wheels but thinkinh of getting those for the purists!! I think it looks quite well for the size I instantly recognized the ae86 Edited June 16, 2016 by Driftworks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agrof Posted June 17, 2016 What is difference? The difference is, if it will "only" roll, or drift really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnpumar Posted June 17, 2016 Interesting work, looks pretty close to the real thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftworks Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Update: Decided on a lpe v4 small block i got some dimensions also a one way clutch anf f-n-r. Overall some good progress. Some images Edited June 25, 2016 by Driftworks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
__________________________ Posted June 26, 2016 Looks very nice! It seems however that you could add more pneumatic cylinders up front for power. However, how will you be powering this model, surely you do not intend for it to be a static model? Yet it is difficult to drive LPE? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
