gamejutzu Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) A lot of people tend to overlook the details and even the names of the figs. For example, everyone who went on the early website knows that DX means dragon xtreme and ZX means zen xtreme. But did you know why they chose zen? It's not because they thought ZX sounded cool, it was to even out the ninja, because zen means "balance" On the trading cards, the ninja were particularly weak in one element. For example Jay was weak in the earth element, which means he lacked in defense. So what happens in his ZX suit? Half of his torso is covered in armor, to better protect himself. And Cole was weak in the lightning element, which meant he lacked in speed. His ZX suit gave him light armor, so he can have sufficient protection and move faster, like Batman's batsuit. Zukin in Japanese means "hood". What's so special about the suit's hood? There's a symbol in Fusaka, referring to each ninja, who is assigned one. It's confirmed Chen gave the ninja the zukin suits because Kai's suit has almost the exact same knives as the ones in Kapau's armor strap. But does that mean that Chen gave zane his silver suit? It could be when Zane rebuilt himself, he just remade his body, and didn't make a suit for himself yet. And when he was brought to Chen, he gave him a titanium suit. Morro's mask is a two-piece mask. The green part of it is attached to his shirt, and the black one is attached to back cloth. I find it awesome how these suits are possible to make and wear in real life. These tidbits really show that Lego cares and actually puts thought into their work, even though their target audience is children (at least for their sets anyways...) Lloyd's element is actually nature. All of the ninja's powers = green ninja. Earth, fire, ice and lightning are the core elements of Ninjago, used to create it. More proof of this is in the games Ninjago Rush and The Final Battle. In Ninjago Rush, Lloyd's attack is a green spinjitzu tornado with leaves coming out of it. In The Final Battle, Lloyd's elemental icon (not the symbol. It can be a flame for Kai, A snowflake for Zane, etc.) is a leaf. This can also be linked with Lloyd's golden form. Lloyd taps internal nature from the world around him. (like the interior of a tree, I imagine it's life force as golden), and that is where Lloyd gets true energy. In the 2013 kimono suits, where there is usually a fusakan symbol at the top two buttons, Golden Lloyd instead has a target symbol, probably referring to the internal life force of something, or True Energy. More proof is that he shares a golden fighting style with The First Spinjitzu master, implying that he had the same ability as well. And why wouldn't he? Nature and internal energy/nature is what he used to create Ninjago. Think of it. Why did he use all four golden weapons? to combine all of their power to create nature. Don't believe it? Here's even more proof. In the episode "The Green Ninja", the ninja place all four of their weapons in very close proximity to Lloyd, and what happens? They all create a green aura around him. Boom. Mind gone. From 2011 to 2013, you would assume Garmadon was dead since he rules the underworld. How did he get there then? It turns out Garmadon was not dead. He was either alive or half dead. When Sensei used his protection spell to save him, Garmadon was struck with lightning. The impact charred his flesh (black skin) and his real ribs can be seen protruding from his chest. While the lightning hits Garmadon, his torso flashes black and normal, but his ribs are seen in both flashes. Also, Garmadon's kimono (identical to Wu's but purple instead of gray, as well as a red protection spell) was completely ruined, except the belt part of his kimono. A giant crack opens on the floor and takes Garmadon to the underworld. I'm pretty confused what Garmadon's status was. How did the lightning not kill him? It was also Ironic that Garmadon was hit with lightning as he was holding the nunchucks of lightning. The armor piece Garmadon wears in 2012 is conveniently horizontally rugged, which could be rib protection, since he didn't need rib protection before, since he was untouchable in the underworld. But ever since he went to the dark realm, he was real, and needed the armor, along side the crazy weapons he had to attack Wu. In 2013, Garmadon wears the same purple belt, but it's more proper. All of the skeleton's names are puns, implying that their names before their deaths were different. How could Frakjaw call himself that before huge cracks were visible on his forehead? (his fractured head is stitched together with an iron strip and a hammered bolt to hold it in place.) He did that before he died?. The name Bonezai might be referencing Bonsai from Ninja, as he went crazy trying to get the mystical rubies... And mabye he did.... The same goes to Samukai. It's a nickname of his former reputation. He also hated Garmadon with a passion. When Garmadon goes to the underworld, Samukai says, "it's payback time", meaning that Garmadon did something to him. He knew Garmadon when he was human, because he says "my, how you've changed." Look at Samukai's scars. Two over his eyes and one running sideways down his face. Garmadon most likely gave him that, as he probably wouldn't care if he caused the other two. The ninja wear elemental emblems on their suits whether it's on a badge or fastened by ropes. But each emblem isn't just there to look cool. It's also gives insight on the ninja's personality. Kai's emblem is a lion, and lions are fierce and have pride. Zane's emblem is an icy cat-like creature, probably referring to his cool and observant personality. Lloyd has a dragon which is known for being the guy in front, and is unafraid (like in season 5, where fear was the main theme), and for being pretty dang powerful in general. Remember "Day of The Dragon?" Everyone faced their fears and that's how they could summon their dragons. Cole's features what is most likely the cracked skull of some sort of burrowing animal. Guess we'll wait for the new vest suits to see. Remember the lost city of ouroboros? You think they picked that name just to look cool? An ouroboros is a depiction of a snake (and sometimes a dragon) swallowing it's tail. Remember the episode "day of the Great Devourer"? They trapped the giant snake by getting it to chase them in a full circle around a city block, and it ended up stuck very near it's tail, with it even being partially in it's mouth. It's also kind of Ironic, since an ouroboros is supposed to represent infinity, and Garmadon kills it. On the back of Lloyd's first suit, an ouroboros is also present, until rebooted came in... A very minuscule detail that only people with an actual figure could possibly notice, Titanium Zane has... Stuff on his visor. But it actually reads "PXL" backwards and what I think is an emoji face below it also backwards. Either way you see it, it just shows that P.I.X.A.L is still here. Nice touch from LEGO. The ninja almost always come with swords and sword holders, and the swords are almost always placed incorrectly on the sword holder. The way it is now is with the curved side facing the ground. This does not make sense, as if you were to then pull the sword out, one would actually be holding it backwards. The show does sometimes depict Kai having a sword the correct way, but usually it is not. Maybe LEGO thinks it looks cooler that way. I personally think the opposite. Does anyone else think it's weird that the original gis had no back prints in the sets, but prints on TV? And how Morro has back printing? Not fair Lego! XD Cowler the ghost is named after a cowl, which he sports. Wraith is Scottish for a "ghost" or a "spirit". Ghurka may be related to the "gurkha". They are Nepal soldiers, could be relating to how the ghosts are soldiers. And, Yokai is a parody of the term "yokai" which refer to Japanese spirits. Also, Zugu is a sauce/food. Zugu displays an admiration for food in general, so it might be a reference to that. The new double sword scabbard is being worn wrong already. In order to retrieve the swords, one would usually use their left hand to get the top sword, since it is closest, and their right hand to unsheathe the bottom sword, since it is furthest. But the way the swords are depicted in pictures is with both swords corner side to the ground. This is incorrect, as even though you will be able to retrieve the first (top) sword and have it blade side facing outward, the bottom sword will come out blade side facing you (the minifigure). So, the correct way to arrange the swords (if one usually unsheathes swords in the above fashion) is for the swords to be facing opposites to eachother, having the first sword corner side down, and having the second blade corner side facing upwards. It looks silly, but it would work realistically. Edited December 16, 2015 by gamejutzu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exetrius Posted October 12, 2015 Oh, thank you for these interesting bits of information! I've loved the designs for the ninja so far, but I never knew that there was even more to them than meets the eye. Perhaps you or someone else could tell me what the following symbols mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LegendsOfNinjago Posted October 12, 2015 From what I understand the the Ninja's mean nothing and are madeup why the flags in corner means "Dragon god" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyichir Posted October 12, 2015 Oh, thank you for these interesting bits of information! I've loved the designs for the ninja so far, but I never knew that there was even more to them than meets the eye. Perhaps you or someone else could tell me what the following symbols mean? The top four (tiles from the Airjitzu sets) and the one on Lloyd's hood in the bottom right are Asian-inspired calligraphic characters that seemingly are meant to identify the specific ninja who wear them (though they don't seem to have any real-world meaning). These originated on the 2013 ninja, who featured those characters on small buttons on their torsos, but they're most visible on the hoods of the "Zukin" robes, the torsos of the Airjitzu ninja, and the octagonal seals on the Deepstone armor. They even appear on this year's "tournament robes"—specifically, all four of the ninja from the tournament share the characters representing themselves and the other ninja on their team! The back of Morro's torso is the Chinese character for "evil", if I remember correctly. I don't know the meaning of the characters on Wu and Garmadon's torsos, unfortunately. The 2x4 tile appears on the dragons from the first year of sets, and reads "dragon god". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azog Posted October 12, 2015 No they do mean stuff each of the four ninjas symbols are fire,earth,ice,lightning. Morros symbol means air that's all I know and the flag is dragon god Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lyichir Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) No they do mean stuff each of the four ninjas symbols are fire,earth,ice,lightning. Morros symbol means air that's all I know and the flag is dragon god I'd like to see your reference for that. Morro's symbol definitely means "evil", not "air", and the ninja's symbols don't seem to correspond to any Chinese or Japanese characters at all (Jay's ALMOST looks like the character for "sheep", but not only is it not a perfect match, but any connection between Jay or his element and sheep is tenuous at best). Edited October 13, 2015 by Lyichir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azog Posted October 13, 2015 oh well i just searched it up and that's what i got but your right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artanis I Posted October 13, 2015 Surely ( ) the ZX was just so they could use a Jay Z pun... And then later on we get "Jay Walker" Next year something like "Coles Supermarket" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamejutzu Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Perhaps you or someone else could tell me what the following symbols mean? The symbols on Sensei Wu's kimono is a protection spell, as he says when Zane tells him about it (I don't know what the spell is... I think I saw it one time though.). The 4 other symbols on the ninja probably don't mean anything, which is why I assumed it to be the five regular elements. Kai's is definitely Japanese for fire though. I tried to look a bit closer, but the only one I kinda got right was Jay's which kinda looks like ¥ and I don't even know what it means. Garmadon and Sensei Wu have one character in common on both their kimonos: the first one. And it might not be Japanese even. Wu is a Chinese word. I don't think it means anything in English. The characters might be taken from other words, if anyone's tried that. I'd like to see your reference for that. Morro's symbol definitely means "evil", not "air", and the ninja's symbols don't seem to correspond to any Chinese or Japanese characters at all (Jay's ALMOST looks like the character for "sheep", but not only is it not a perfect match, but any connection between Jay or his element and sheep is tenuous at best). Morro means "evil"? I thought it meant "dark". Like the dark kind of evil. There's 2 solutions to solve this translation mess: 1. Discuss this at http://www.eurobrick...showtopic=77032, as i'm probably gonna get locked for hosting this. 2. Get a legitimate translator of Chinese and/Japanese. Again ^that^ place. Oh, by the way I edited and added a major fact, if you haven't seen it. If you like your brain, you should probably stay away from it. Edited October 13, 2015 by gamejutzu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exetrius Posted October 13, 2015 Thanks for the answers and for the link! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamejutzu Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Dang it! It turns out that AmperZand proved they're not Japanese characters, it's not even eastern. However, they do look like edited Japanese, especially Kai and Jay's icons. Now I have to edit! Edited October 15, 2015 by gamejutzu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bricksfan Posted November 5, 2015 I heard cole´s symbol is strenght or something like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamejutzu Posted November 6, 2015 I heard cole´s symbol is strenght or something like that Hm? No, that wouldn't make sense. All of the ninja's symbols represent a mythical animal. The new pirate vests will reveal the new symbols from a side angle, so we can finally tell what they really are. Still convinced Zane's is an icy cat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lind Whisperer Posted November 6, 2015 Hm? No, that wouldn't make sense. All of the ninja's symbols represent a mythical animal. The new pirate vests will reveal the new symbols from a side angle, so we can finally tell what they really are. Still convinced Zane's is an icy cat. I could see that. My first guess as to what Cole's animal would be, was "Gorilla," since Gorillas have become short-hand for "generically strong". But looking at his symbol head-on - literally - I'm almost wondering if it isn't some kind of mouse. (Apologies if the image is too big.) This isn't the best example, but there are definitely at least some similarities - and there'd be the humor of "Ha-ha, the tough guy's animal is a mouse," which seems like it'd be a bit par for LEGO's course. (For the skull buffs, yes, I do get the example mouse skull I provided is a rat skull, not a mouse skull, but still.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamejutzu Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) I'm almost wondering if it isn't some kind of mouse. I thought that it actually had some sort of connection with the earth, like how Zane's has one with the ice. What animals have connections with the earth? Animals that live in it. Which may explain why it may look like a mouse, because burrowing animals are usually small to medium sized. In my research, I came across a few mice. But now that the new vests will reveal it, I don't care what it is now, I just want to know what it is supposed to be. Edited November 6, 2015 by gamejutzu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lind Whisperer Posted November 6, 2015 I thought that it actually had some sort of connection with the earth, like how Zane's has one with the ice.How are cats connected to ice? Also, Jay's animal kind of breaks their elemental powers as being a terribly good reference guide. If it were an eel, it would follow that pattern, (electric eel) but not terribly many people think "octopus" when they think of "electric-elemental animal". But either way, it definitely looks like it's some sort of borrowing animal - those two little nubs look extremely like incisors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamejutzu Posted November 6, 2015 How are cats connected to ice? A personality of an ice cat. A cat that lives in a snowy area. The personality of a cat that lives in a snowy area. Zane is observant and calculating, just like one. Also, Jay's animal kind of breaks their elemental powers as being a terribly good reference guide. If it were an eel, it would follow that pattern, (electric eel) but not terribly many people think "octopus" when they think of "electric-elemental animal". I believe at first, it was just a storm cloud entity, like a deity of legend, but now they changed it to match the new season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lordofdragonss Posted November 6, 2015 How are cats connected to ice? Also, Jay's animal kind of breaks their elemental powers as being a terribly good reference guide. If it were an eel, it would follow that pattern, (electric eel) but not terribly many people think "octopus" when they think of "electric-elemental animal". But either way, it definitely looks like it's some sort of borrowing animal - those two little nubs look extremely like incisors. How about Jellyfish? Some of them use electric impulses. and they often pictured with six tentacles (3 shown instead of octopus - 4) I always thought Kai had manticore, Cole had his dragon, Zane had Ice tiger and cole had Electhulu. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamejutzu Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) How about Jellyfish? Some of them use electric impulses. and they often pictured with six tentacles (3 shown instead of octopus - 4) I always thought Kai had manticore, Cole had his dragon, Zane had Ice tiger and cole had Electhulu. :D Jellyfish could work, but it looks way too similar to Cthulhu now to tell. No way Kai could be a manticore. Only his head is shown, and a mintycore has the exact head of a lion. It would be meaningless. And, yeah, I was thinking of an ice tiger for Zane as well. Edited November 6, 2015 by gamejutzu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bricksfan Posted November 6, 2015 I was talking about the symbols on my profile pic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamejutzu Posted November 7, 2015 I heard cole´s symbol is strenght or something like that You mean this ^ post? Sorry friend, but the symbols on your profile pic are not even Japanese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamejutzu Posted November 7, 2015 Ok? That didn't answer the question? I'd like to help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bricksfan Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Look gamejutzu, I´m new on Eurobricks in case you haven´t noticed, so please let´s stop the fight and be friends. I personally think you´re a great poster. Edited November 7, 2015 by bricksfan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamejutzu Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) I personally think you´re a great poster. Yay! I didn't have any intention of arguing, i'm sorry if it read that way. I thought you were referring to the symbols on the ninja, which are in the fusaka English font. I just wanted to know if that was what you meant. It's just that I wanted to help around. I guess I was too obsessed with it. Wait... However, the wiki is saying something else however about those symbols: It says that Kai Lloyd Zane and Jay's symbols are apparently Chinese. 羊 "Sheep"? 山 "Mountain"? 平 "Flat"? 斗 "Fight"? The fusaka is way more accurate, but if you want actual East Asian language, these are your best bet. Edited November 10, 2015 by gamejutzu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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